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Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« on: October 29, 2020, 09:47:20 PM »
I'll try to keep this as brief as possible, I'm looking for a new set of pickups for my Mayones Regius, 24 fret, 25.4" scale, 6-string guitar.  It came with Seymour Duncan JB/Jazz pickups, which I don't like.  The JB is bright without being open, and has a very rounded, focused high-end that feels almost "blunt."  It reminds me of everything that I don't like about a Vintage 30 speaker.  The Jazz neck was actually OK for me.

I'm most used to Gibson Les Pauls, and I would like this Regius to be a sort of modernized Les Paul , with the crispness and snap that comes from a longer scale length, better upper fret access, flatter fretboard, etc.  I like Gibson Burstbuckers and Custombuckers (I have a nice R9) but I would like the Regius to be more modern, tighter in the bass, and have higher output.  Clean sounds are very important to me, and I would like to have usable coil splitting.  I usually tune the guitar a 1/2 step down but no more, so I don't need the extended low range that some modern players want.  I play mostly 80s, 90s, and 2000s alternative rock, and the heaviest that I get would be Katatonia, Alice in Chains, Porcupine Tree, some Opeth, etc.  Otherwise I'm usually in Foo Fighters, Stone Temple Piliots, Pearl Jam, Pink Floyd territory.

One caveat is that with a Les Paul I pretty much always have the Neck tone on 10 and Bridge tone on 5-6, and the Regius has a single shared tone control, so I'm having a hard time finding a set that balances out the way I want it to.

Tim here recommended the True Grit or Emeralds, and I tried the True Grits.  After some tweaking they were quite good!  I was surprised at how much I liked the split coil bridge, it sounded very Tele-like.  However, I felt that I was always wanting to roll my tone knob down halfway going to the bridge, or all the way up going to the neck.  I felt like the bridge could be a little warmer and the neck could have possibly had a little more highs. 

Because I found good prices on used ones, I bought an Emerald neck and Alnico Naillbomb bridge, and have been trying that combo for a couple of months.  Individually both are quite good, but I don't think that they mix all that well.  Personally the Emerald neck seems too warm for me (though it's quite nice), and the Nailbomb is perhaps a little bright.  Both pickups are also probably hotter than I really need, especially the Nailbomb, so I definitely don't want anything with more output than these.

Thoughts?  I'm thinking of putting the True Grits back in again.  Also of trying a Holydiver set, since I hear that the neck is pretty bright and the bridge is warm and full, which might solve my problem of always wanting to turn my tone knob down when I go to the bridge (this is a problem I have with every non-Les Paul, actually).  Other ideas might be some combination of Black Dog, VHII, or Abraxas, though I've heard that the Abraxas can be very loose in the lows and I'm put off of the EQ curve of the VHII and Emerald bridge on the website (both have less bass, more mids, and even more highs). 

Thanks! 

Quick edit: in case it wasn't clear, I really want this guitar to be more suited for the Katatonia, Opeth, Alice in Chains, Porcupine Tree stuff.  I have more vintage style guitars for PAF sounds, I just don't need it to do extreme modern metal or djent, etc.
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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2020, 12:03:36 AM »
Tight 80's and 90's I will suggest the holidiver. Hotter than vintage pups too. The set work well together although the riff raff neck is the brightest neck pup.
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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2020, 04:25:10 AM »
Holy Diver bridge and Emerald neck is a good combo

My only reservation here is that you didn't like the JB, and the Holy Diver is quite similar
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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2020, 05:48:34 PM »
Thanks guys.  The more I think about it, it's mostly the Nailbomb bridge that I'm not getting along with.  I can see why many love it, but it's too high output for my tastes and a bit too bright in my guitar.  The Emerald neck I could learn to live with, or possibly go back to the True Grit neck.  It's hard to decide how I actually feel about the Emerald neck since I don't think that it pairs very well with the A-bomb. 

I'm looking for a bridge pickup that is less hot than the A-bomb, hotter than a PAF but sweeter in the high end, without being mushy or loose in the lows.  I watched these two videos and the Holydiver may be a good choice, I notice that neither guitar used has a tone control and they don't sound like the bridge needs to be tamed at all, while the neck pickups (a VHII and Holydiver in these videos) are bright enough:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evEXJK7JFso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTjgeWKILU4

Both of those sound more compressed and "processed" than I would like, but I'm basically assuming that's because of the way that they were recorded.

So the Holydiver bridge (possibly set) is high on my list, anything else that I should consider?  How does the Black Dog bridge compare to the True Grit and Nailbomb (the two BKP bridge pickups that I'm familiar with)?  I may not need as high output as the Holydiver. 

Thanks guys!

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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2020, 06:25:33 AM »
I would try a Holy Diver bridge with your Emerald neck first, and if you still aren't feeling the Emerald neck after a month or so then get a Holy Diver neck
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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2020, 06:27:28 AM »
The Black Dog has a similar character to the alnico Nailbomb and might not be any more satisfying for you if you don't like the Nailbomb
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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2020, 07:49:13 PM »
Thanks to those that have replied.  I'm probably not ordering more pickups for another week or two, so am still open to hearing other opinions. 

I'm definitely leaning towards getting a Holydiver bridge to go with my Emerald neck, though might possibly order a Holydiver set.  I think that I could probably be happy with either the Emerald or True Grit neck pickups that I already have though, even if they're pretty different from each other.

I've pretty much crossed off bridge pickups like the Black Dog and Emerald, any others that I should perhaps consider?  The Crawler maybe...? 

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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2020, 12:26:49 AM »
in my experience, the true grit sits right between the nailbomb and holy diver (despite of the lower dc resistance), but the holy diver has the most JB-like voicing out of the three

I'd say the holy diver youtube videos you posted are quite representative
the diver feels a bit smoother and middier compared to both true grit and nailbomb

I do think you should give the true grits another chance, though
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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2020, 05:29:07 PM »
Okay everyone, thanks again and I definitely appreciate the help!  I've done a lot more research, searching through the forums, etc., and I think I've decided.  I did a ton of research when I first bought the True Grits, but it was one of those cases of being spoiled for choice: you're always wondering if there is a better option out there.  Manufacturers in all industry actually use this psychology to their advantage (ever wonder why there are dozens and dozens of flavors of salad dressing to choose from?), but I digress...

My reasons for trying something other than the True Grits were 1) wondering if something might be even better, 2) wanting the bridge to be a little warmer (always rolling the tone knob down some), 3) having bought open coils and realizing that the guitar looks better with nickel covers, 4) finding good deals on an A-bomb bridge and Emerald neck that had raw nickel covers, and 5) everyone I chatted with at BKP seemed to recommend something different!

I really did like the sound of the True Grits, though.  I'll either pick up a Holyldiver bridge to check out with the Emerald neck, or go back to the True Grits.  Possibly I'll get a covered a True Grit bridge to soften the highs ever so slightly, but I realize that the effect is very very slight. 

Thanks again! 

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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2020, 10:22:48 PM »
I have the idea you might want to try a Crawler sooner or later. Yes, the lows are not the tightest in BKP-range, but imo tight enough for most styles you mention. It will deliver what the True Grit lacks in that particular guitar.
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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2020, 06:55:13 PM »
I have the idea you might want to try a Crawler sooner or later. Yes, the lows are not the tightest in BKP-range, but imo tight enough for most styles you mention. It will deliver what the True Grit lacks in that particular guitar.

Funny you say that, because before I bought the True Grits on Tim's recommendation, I had pretty much narrowed things down to the Holy Diver or Crawlers.  I was afraid that the Crawlers would be too loose for me, though I don't really need a super tight response.  How would you compare the Crawlers to the True Grits?

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2020, 12:38:11 AM »
I have the idea you might want to try a Crawler sooner or later. Yes, the lows are not the tightest in BKP-range, but imo tight enough for most styles you mention. It will deliver what the True Grit lacks in that particular guitar.

Funny you say that, because before I bought the True Grits on Tim's recommendation, I had pretty much narrowed things down to the Holy Diver or Crawlers.  I was afraid that the Crawlers would be too loose for me, though I don't really need a super tight response.  How would you compare the Crawlers to the True Grits?

Maybe I am wrong, but imo the True Grit sounds a little like a tamer Nailbomb. I think the TG is brighter and less smooth than the Crawler, which has a unique growl, quite some center mids, round but not dull topend, but cleans up great as well. In terms of output there is not that much difference.

This vid represents the Crawler quite well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN84qcU1DHM

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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2020, 01:46:11 PM »

Maybe I am wrong, but imo the True Grit sounds a little like a tamer Nailbomb. I think the TG is brighter and less smooth than the Crawler, which has a unique growl, quite some center mids, round but not dull topend, but cleans up great as well. In terms of output there is not that much difference.

This vid represents the Crawler quite well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN84qcU1DHM

I think you're right that the True Grit sounds like a more tame Nailbomb, actually.  Between the two bridge pickups, I definitely prefer the True Grit, but they're similar in their EQ at least. 

I went ahead and ordered a Holydiver, but I'll keep the Crawler in mind for the future.

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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2020, 03:49:31 PM »
I've always wanted to try the Crawler, but the Holydiver is my fave BKP.
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Re: Pickup recommendations for Mayones Regius
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2020, 11:07:00 PM »

Maybe I am wrong, but imo the True Grit sounds a little like a tamer Nailbomb. I think the TG is brighter and less smooth than the Crawler, which has a unique growl, quite some center mids, round but not dull topend, but cleans up great as well. In terms of output there is not that much difference.

This vid represents the Crawler quite well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN84qcU1DHM

I think you're right that the True Grit sounds like a more tame Nailbomb, actually.  Between the two bridge pickups, I definitely prefer the True Grit, but they're similar in their EQ at least. 

I went ahead and ordered a Holydiver, but I'll keep the Crawler in mind for the future.

Diver is a good choice as well. Let us know if you're satisfied.
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