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Title: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Alex on February 18, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
Just have to vent my frustration!!!! I hate Apple! :shock:
My old laptop died the other day. I saved the harddrive and transferred the music to my little netbook and external HD. Suddenly, my Lordi album wasn't playing anymore on my (ancient) Ipod!!! Turns out it's one of the two albums I've ever bought on Itunes and it blocked them somehow because I was using a different PC now and not Itunes anymore (I think the software is basically bloatware and prefer other softwares). It took me ages to reinstall Itunes and get access back to the itunes store and to finally "reauthorize" the music!

What kind of bullshitee is this??? They force you into using Itunes and limit the devices you can play the music one? Talk about an abusive company-customer relationship!

Argh.... :?
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: ToneMonkey on February 18, 2013, 08:58:45 PM
Yeah, I've heard of this. Think it massively takes the proverbial. It's like renting your music.

I still buy CD's and then just transfer them to itunes. (I have an ambition to completely fill the bookcase, so I'm not going digital just yet). Although if my ipod goes up it, I'll probably have someone from Apple come round and take my CD's away when I'm not looking... because it's exactly the same thing.

Here starts the revolution brother.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 18, 2013, 11:21:58 PM
I use Apple products , but I too still prefer physical CDs - have shelves full of them.
Computers crash and fail - very few of my CDs have gone wrong.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Philly Q on February 19, 2013, 01:18:43 AM
The only Apple product I've ever owned is an iPod which I hardly ever use.

Almost everything I have in iTunes is from my own CDs, but I've got thousands of other CDs on my shelves which I'll never get round to transferring/copying. 

The only music I've ever downloaded, apart from a handful of individual tracks, is a load of Blue Oyster Cult live material (there was a special code for a free download with my BOC box set)
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: blue on February 19, 2013, 08:15:57 AM
Apple's attitudes to their customers is generally pretty disgusting.  myself, i only download something if it simply can't be gotten on cd or vinyl.  a solution to one problem is to burn the downloaded tracks to cd, as an audio cd, and then rip them to mp3 again from there.  the drm shouldn't be a problem then.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Lezard on February 19, 2013, 10:15:44 AM
If I were you I'd just pirate all the music I bought from itunes, the artist has already been paid, no need to put up with their bs.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: gwEm on February 19, 2013, 11:00:07 AM
Recently I've been finding a bunch of bugs in their stuff. Syncing playlists between my iPad and laptop has been fraught and for some reason my iPad is crashing more and more.

Nevertheless, I still prefer Apple to the alternatives. Generally the OS doesn't get in the way and my laptop has been reliable.

I agree the iTunes attitude to the way you own your music and apps sucks, I experienced similar. I've been buying more CDs recently - really cheap now 2ndhand
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on February 19, 2013, 03:20:47 PM
My new iPhone 5 seems to not like my computer very much... haven't been able to sync since when I first got it.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: AndyR on February 19, 2013, 03:34:21 PM
I'm partial to a nice Granny Smith. I even like a nice Cox when in season before they go too spongey...

...oh, you're talking about that computer company I never go near... don't think I've ever touched anything of theirs, hardware or software... I'll shut up now :D
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 20, 2013, 04:46:29 AM
I just use Spotify premium now. I'm fed up with iTunes and file transfers
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Roobubba on February 27, 2013, 11:30:51 AM
I have to use Apple machines for work (politically have to, that is...). My first macbook pro 5 years ago had to go back to Apple a couple of times with design fault problems. I have a new MBP now, and it went back to apple 4 times in the first year. Total brickage.

I wouldn't mind if they were fast machines, but they cost an absolute fortune and they run slower than the machines I build at home for a fraction of the price. And they're unreliable. 2 Mac Pros I have at work are faring slightly better, though I did have a cinema display die after 2 years (just outside warranty), and they don't come cheap.
I fixed up a mate's Samsung monitor with a 1 capacitor, and it's now been going in total for 8 years. My own Samsung monitor has been going almost as long with no problems.

Needless to say I don't waste any of my own money on Apple tosh, and am happy I never got sucked into that whole iPhone/iPad nonsense. They fleece their customers rotten.

Almost as bad as you know who... (no, not The Who)
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: MDV on February 27, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
I wont touch apple products with a barge pole myself. itunes in particular can go $%&# itself with a rusty breadknife. Its a totally redundant advertising and DRM platform. Theres no need for it at all, and its among the worst offenders in screwing small bands over in distribution cuts.

Their business model is genius though, from a purely machiavellian perspective:

1: Engineer as many circumstances as possible where a person has to buy a replacement apple product (planned obsolescence, claiming customer error on any repair they can get away with not doing, producing a series of basically meaningless upgrades, etc etc)
2. Use off the shelf parts in proprietary configurations that are nearly non-user serviceable
3. Sell them at a huge markup compared to the same gear that doesnt say 'apple' on it.
4: Convince people that this buying of replacement apple products is actually a good thing through some of the most insidious, insipid, vacuous, image-driven marketing schemes ever devised.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Philly Q on February 27, 2013, 06:30:56 PM
Almost as bad as you know who... (no, not The Who)

The ones who had an Apple Corps, presumably!
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: AndyR on February 28, 2013, 06:50:27 PM
Almost as bad as you know who... (no, not The Who)

The ones who had an Apple Corps, presumably!

Either that or those tele-totting, mash-munching traffic wardens that prowl the streets of Oxford :lol:

Quite gratified I find myself in the Roo/MDV camp (without having really thought it through so well!)

Years ago, I worked as a programmer in a small software house. We're probably talking just pre Apple's almost demise before they went all groovy. Even then there was a camp of "PCs are sh1t, get a Mac". There was a business consultant working there who knew more about technology than us developers, and he had a mantra -

"The only good Mac is a Big Mac"

:lol:

Good on them (Apple) for being successful, etc... but I don't ever see me touching anything of theirs meself while there are alternatives.

Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on March 01, 2013, 04:03:43 AM
I've always been suspicious of anyone with an i-phone, which not only monitors you but has an exact GPS location of your every move. How did that become normal?....
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Elliot on March 04, 2013, 11:00:31 PM
It became normal because Apple briefly offered a product in the I-Phone that beat the opposition to a shred and the vast majority of people couldn't give a rats arse about such concerns.
 
Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon - all the 'visioneer' companies have  a deeply black side to their business practices. 
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: MDV on March 04, 2013, 11:23:45 PM
Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon - all the 'visioneer' companies have  a deeply black side to their business practices. 

True dat.

I consider apple the worst of a bad much personally though.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: ToneMonkey on March 07, 2013, 05:35:36 PM
Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon - all the 'visioneer' companies have  a deeply black side to their business practices. 

True dat.

I consider apple the worst of a bad much personally though.

I consider all of them to be the worst. We're moving into dangerous times, proper 1984 shite...... Just hope the music isn't as bad as the actual 1984.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Philly Q on March 07, 2013, 06:48:55 PM
I consider all of them to be the worst. We're moving into dangerous times, proper 1984 shitee...... Just hope the music isn't as bad as the actual 1984.

I'm pretty sure I liked a lot more new music in 1984 than I do now!

But that's just thinking about rock music, I admit the Top 40 stuff in those days was appalling...... then again, even that was better than the utter shite infesting the charts nowadays.  Either I'm turning into my dad, or "pop music" is far, far more trite and soulless than it's ever been.

The more I think about it, apart from buying CDs and Blu-rays (which are already well down the road to redundancy) and using computers every day (here I am now!) I'm really not very involved at all with the modern world of smartphones, apps, e-readers and digital downloads.  It all seems increasingly alien to me.

Thank God guitar technology evolves so slowly!
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Toe-Knee on March 08, 2013, 02:02:49 PM


Thank God guitar technology evolves so slowly!

It wouldnt if Gibson had their way!
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Philly Q on March 08, 2013, 02:10:45 PM
True.  Why are they so obsessed with self-tuning guitars?  :?

Still, they're never going to stop making vintage reissues at various price points, are they.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Toe-Knee on March 08, 2013, 02:27:07 PM
True.  Why are they so obsessed with self-tuning guitars?  :?

Still, they're never going to stop making vintage reissues at various price points, are they.

You would hope they wouldn't.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: gwEm on March 08, 2013, 02:27:57 PM
True.  Why are they so obsessed with self-tuning guitars?  :?

Still, they're never going to stop making vintage reissues at various price points, are they.

i quite like the look of those mini-etune guitars actually(!)
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Alex on March 08, 2013, 09:20:54 PM
True.  Why are they so obsessed with self-tuning guitars?  :?

Still, they're never going to stop making vintage reissues at various price points, are they.

Maybe American guitar players can't tune their guitars themselves?  :lol:
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: dave_mc on March 09, 2013, 08:04:35 PM

I'm pretty sure I liked a lot more new music in 1984 than I do now!

But that's just thinking about rock music, I admit the Top 40 stuff in those days was appalling...... then again, even that was better than the utter shitee infesting the charts nowadays.  Either I'm turning into my dad, or "pop music" is far, far more trite and soulless than it's ever been.

I'd say pop music now is better than the utter puerile tripe that was around when i was around 17 or 18 (when the sixth form centre had a radio that was normally hijacked by the non-rockers)... around 2000 or so. Anything is better than the damn vengaboys. o_O it might be getting slightly worse now, but for a while there it wasn't too bad- lady gaga and the like i actually quite like.
Title: Re: ! I hate Apple!!!!
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 22, 2013, 04:28:44 AM
I love Apple products. I've got an iMac which pisses over any of the pc's i previously owned. They don't even come close. My iPhone is always being used as a nav tool at work & loads of other things. I use an iPad at home too and I love it. Perhaps I'm easily pleased. I used to scoff at macs until I had a go on one...

Modern pop music is even unpopular with the age groups its intended for. My cousins lads all listen to 80's music and watch things like the Young Ones on DVDs and YouTube.
There is no comedy made anymore which is actually funny in case it offends someone.