Username: Password:

Author Topic: Audio or Linear Pots for Tone & Volume? Does it matter..  (Read 4632 times)

BadMonkey

  • Junior Flyweight
  • *
  • Posts: 49
Audio or Linear Pots for Tone & Volume? Does it matter..
« on: March 13, 2007, 06:06:08 PM »
Hello!

Just a quick question...
Should I use audio logarithmic pots for both the tone & volume, or audio for the volume & linear for the tone.... or vice versa??

Cheers!
BM
Gibson SG Standard: Riff Raffs & MQ

Twinfan

  • Light Heavyweight
  • ******
  • Posts: 10528
Audio or Linear Pots for Tone & Volume? Does it matter..
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2007, 06:22:28 PM »
I use audio taper all round, so that's what I'd recommend.  You certainly need audio taper for tone, but you can use either for volume.

Edit:  Sorry, got linear/audio wrong way round!

hunter

  • Middleweight
  • *****
  • Posts: 5262
    • http://www.myspace.com/christophjaeger
Audio or Linear Pots for Tone & Volume? Does it matter..
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 11:27:55 PM »
I use Audio for all ... but I don't care so much, my tone pot is only for pulling it to switch single coil  :wink:
Tweaker's Paradise - Player's nightmare.

gwEm

  • Middleweight
  • *****
  • Posts: 7452
    • http://www.preromanbritain.com/gwem
Audio or Linear Pots for Tone & Volume? Does it matter..
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2007, 01:01:56 PM »
feline suggested these a while ago:

http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/shop/products.php?category=317&product=5222

i tried them, and i must say i agree with his suggestion: custom audio taper CTS pots for tone and volume.
Quote from: AndyR
you wouldn't use the meat knife on crusty bread but, equally, the serrated knife and straight edge knife aren't going to go through raw meat as quickly

Twinfan

  • Light Heavyweight
  • ******
  • Posts: 10528
Audio or Linear Pots for Tone & Volume? Does it matter..
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2007, 04:08:29 PM »
They're the ones I have in my SG, plus I've got a set waiting to go in my Les Paul once I've got my Mules.

They're great pots!

the_bleeding

  • Featherweight
  • ***
  • Posts: 404
Audio or Linear Pots for Tone & Volume? Does it matter..
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2007, 04:15:57 PM »
AUDIO only dude.

The ear only senses volume on a logarithmic scale i.e. you need more and more volume to noticed a difference... so which an audio pot will sound like it has a smooth increase in volume, the linear pot will sound like it has a big jump from about 1-5, and then virtually no increase from 5-10.
my maxon OD 808 really DOES make poop sound good

Fourth Feline

  • Guest
Audio or Linear Pots for Tone & Volume? Does it matter..
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2007, 11:07:29 AM »
I found Linear for volume pots and Logarithmic for tone. If I tried Log types in the volume position, the volume came nearly all the way up between about  1- 3 and little other difference after that and these were good quality CTS pots.

I gather that a good Log pot has a ratio around the centre of about 60:40. At least a linear was close at 50:50 around the centre detent.

The human ear does track volume increase in a logarithmic fashion, but that fact alone does not guarantee that the resistance sweep on the pot is tracking at exactly the right ratio for the human ear.

If in doubt, I would get the ones from Feline Guitars, as they have been tried and tested, despite seemingly contrary opinions on this post.

 :D

Jazz Rock

  • Bantamweight
  • **
  • Posts: 223
    • http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pageartist.cfm?bandID=693640
Audio or Linear Pots for Tone & Volume? Does it matter..
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2007, 06:07:50 PM »
Sorry to hijack a wee bit but, is it possible that my Gibson LP studio came with linear pots for the volume. It certainly seemed to be the case but I thought I'd check to see if it is a known fact?

Back to main subject, in my Epiphone, when I had the SD '59 installed, I had the luthier put audio pots for the volume and linear pots for the tone. The behaviour of the guitar to the rollings off and on of the different pots is really nice. Volume clean up in a fairly even way and the tone knob roll off allow me to tame the highs when required in a quite precise way.
'17 PRS SE Custom 24 - stock
'07 Fender MIA Tele - The Boss set
'96 Gibson LP studio - MQn, The Mule b
'95 Epi LP classic - MQs