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Title: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: MDV on September 10, 2009, 08:23:52 PM
Well,

After more extensive experience with this pickup, now having it in two guitars that I know VERY well, I thought I'd post up, since its an under-talked about pickup and it $%&#ING SHOULDNT BE!

*ahem* carrying on

First off, I've gone through the full spectrum with the NB in general. First time I tried it I was underwhelmed. Guitar was dean ZX. Acoustic tone; very bright, kinda tinny. I wanted a pickup that doesnt accentuate too much high end and had some real balls to deal with the guitar. Didnt work. It was overly harsh and loose.

Next up, a couple of years later, I install one for a customer in an Epi LP. Very full sounding guitar, pretty even across the spectrum for an (Epi) LP. It was smooth, lush and tight. Really, really punchy, and really articulate. Good stuff. Back on the radar.

So I tried one in my trusty DX1. This guitar has been with me for about 11 years now, and spent the lions share of that time (as a poor 6th former and student: I got it when I was 16) as my main guitar. I know this guitar like the back of my hand. Its had more pickups in it than I care to think about, including from BK a warpig, a miracle man, and an overwound miracle man and a load of others besides (81, KA distortion, SH xbucker, the list goes on, you get the idea). You think you know everything about what an instrument can do and then...well, I put a C-Bomb in it and $%&# me sideways: the ULTRA-tight low end, punchy low mids, the thick, grinding mids, the biting, but quite smooth and sharp(er than the A5) top end, the lions, the tigers, the bears, oh my! Brought the guitar TO LIFE. Responded to pick attack so naturally, legato flowed like wine, nearly as thick as a warpig, at least as tight as a painkiller (in this guitar). The bloody jackson, all of a sudden, sounded better amped up and was more managable and natural to play than my PKd Legra. It also sounded thicker and tighter - things the legra was designed to, and does, excel at.

So I had to swap it over to the legra. Out with the PK, in with the C-Bomb. Can anyone say "Skull-shatteringly crushing?". VERY heavy. Amost C-Pig heavy (but not as hot or compressed, and with more clarity and tightness). More percussive, tighter than the painkiller (yes you read that right: if you need to, read it again until it sinks in), hotter, too, but more sensitive to both nuance of pick attack and fretting (very much not all-out-all-the-time: its response and dynamics are much more controllable, I think), not nearly as crunchy, but much more intensly grinding, no spikiness in pick attack that I'd been wrestling with in leads and fast rhythm runs and the best br00tality/clarity ratio that I have yet to hear. It was the first time in quite a while that I plugged in, tweaked a bit from initial impressions, then while checking out the sound completely forgot that I was checking out the sound and just played. Got rather carried away with myself, actually. Good job I have nice neigbours!

I'm replacing the PK with a C-Bomb in the legra, leaving the C-Bomb in the jackson and this will be the first time, ever, that two of my guitars have had the same bridge pickup. I think that says rather a lot (at least about how much I like this pickup), and those of you that know me round here will probably think the same.

Perhaps this was of some use to someone, perhaps not - but I wanted to rant, because its an awesome pickup, damnit!

Oh: and BK effortlessly superb customer service wins again - Tim will let me replace the PK, despite it being two/three weeks ago now. Rockin'.
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: CaptainDesslock on September 10, 2009, 08:35:05 PM
Your reviews are always so.........full of life  :P

I am honestly amazed though you ended up changing your Legra's bridge pickup, which leads to me to ask,
how is this affected your choice of bridge pickup for your new Legra?

Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: DimeZakk on September 10, 2009, 08:37:00 PM
Great Review, I want one now!
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: dave_mc on September 10, 2009, 08:46:51 PM
br00talz

i mean, nice review. :)
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: MDV on September 10, 2009, 08:48:02 PM
Your reviews are always so.........full of life  :P

I am honestly amazed though you ended up changing your Legra's bridge pickup, which leads to me to ask,
how is this affected your choice of bridge pickup for your new Legra?



Hehe

You have to ask awkward questions, dontcha? The new legra will have, to say all I'm allowed to, "something special". And a holy diver neck.

Thanks dime (edit 2: and dave)

Edit - and this is the second time I've changed the MDV602s bridge. C-pig-PK-C-Bomb. The guitar is designed to hit a tone acoustically that the pickup must then play to the strengths of. A bit of taste-drift later and the first one wasnt the right one, and given that it was an educated guess anyhow, that doesnt surprise me. The guitar continues to hit what it aimed for with all the pickups that have been in it: but its a matter of continual improvment :D
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: CaptainDesslock on September 10, 2009, 08:56:45 PM
Your reviews are always so.........full of life  :P

I am honestly amazed though you ended up changing your Legra's bridge pickup, which leads to me to ask,
how is this affected your choice of bridge pickup for your new Legra?



Hehe

You have to ask awkward questions, dontcha? The new legra will have, to say all I'm allowed to, "something special". And a holy diver neck.

Thanks dime (edit 2: and dave)

Edit - and this is the second time I've changed the MDV602s bridge. C-pig-PK-C-Bomb. The guitar is designed to hit a tone acoustically that the pickup must then play to the strengths of. A bit of taste-drift later and the first one wasnt the right one, and given that it was an educated guess anyhow, that doesnt surprise me. The guitar continues to hit what it aimed for with all the pickups that have been in it: but its a matter of continual improvment :D

Haha, "something special?" unless BKP is releasing a new unheard pickup my guess is your going to put some EMGs!

My Legra which thankfully should be done in 6-8 weeks will have a alnico nailbomb bridge, so i'll have to see how it compares.
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: MDV on September 10, 2009, 08:57:29 PM
I can tell you how it compares already....but I think for what you want it will be right.
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: AdamB on September 10, 2009, 09:29:52 PM
WANT! :D
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: BlackMetalVenom on September 10, 2009, 09:47:30 PM
Jeez, I'm glad you suggested this pup for me.  :D
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: MDV on September 10, 2009, 09:57:10 PM
Jeez, I'm glad you suggested this pup for me.  :D

That was early days, mate. I'd first got it (couple of days) and didnt yet trust myself to offer a full(er) account of the pickup. I just read what you wanted and heard your reference clip and thought "I've just been playing that sound".
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: MDV on September 10, 2009, 09:57:37 PM
WANT! :D

GET!!!
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: lulusg on September 11, 2009, 01:11:45 AM
Enjoyed the review very much!! Always have an ear or two for the reviews that have been made on different pickups all these years, the lenghty ones with lots of descriptions and a twist for the best are Fun to read.
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: Nolly on September 11, 2009, 01:22:04 AM
Glad it's getting more recognition :)
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: CaptainDesslock on September 11, 2009, 06:01:46 AM
I can tell you how it compares already....but I think for what you want it will be right.

do tell I am curious
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: 38thBeatle on September 11, 2009, 06:16:04 AM
Yeah but did you like it?
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: Zaned on September 11, 2009, 10:58:51 AM
A very nice review! As the C-bomb is the overwound brother of the Cold Sweat, I read this with enthusiasm. Sounds quite familiar :) In the right guitar it's a wonderful pickup. As is every BKP.

-Zaned
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: MDV on September 11, 2009, 11:09:43 AM
I also have a cold sweat bridge (in my acoustically darkest guitar, 24.75 scale thats also down in drop A#) and its very clear that they're family members.
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: Dr. Vic on September 11, 2009, 11:49:57 AM
dunno why but I knew that one day, after having heard some good opinions about the C-Bomb, the idea to try one would have turned out to become an obsession !  :P

After being decieved by the nailbomb you are now one of his ambassador, old Jedi !  8)

And your review is F%$ING awesome, couldn't say more !
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: pagan7 on September 11, 2009, 10:35:48 PM
Yesterday I fitted a calibrated set of C-Bombs into my Ibanez RGT42 to replace a set of A5-Bombs which sounded great but did tend to emphasise the rather "middy" natural tone of this guitar (mahogany/walnut through neck, rosewood board, mahogany body and thick polyester finish all over) and I was looking for something like the A5 sound but tighter and with more "fizz"
Tim says that with a calibrated set  ( C-Bombs) he normally leaves the neck pup with an A5 magnet, but I asked for a ceramic magnet in that too, so he fitted them both with the ceramic magnets he uses in Painkillers. I also asked for nickel allen bolt pole screws (after reading the recent "pole screws" thread).
I intially set the pup heights the same as those of the proceeding A5-Bombs and boy what a different sound these C-Bombs have. Much more upper mid and top end emphasis and sizzle (though the new Rotosound 10's that came with them could have contributed to that) and a much fizzier and focused bottom end and dare I say a touch of harshness (and the occasional wolf tones) until I lowered the pups which smoothed things out considerabley.
The overall effect is a bit like switching from a valve amp to a solid state one compared to the A5s and they have really woken this particular guitar up.
I still haven't found the perfect sweetspot combination of pup and pole screw heights yet but I'm really looking forward to that particular adventure.
So far  I can only say.......Get Some Today !!!   :D
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: AndyR on September 12, 2009, 02:14:25 PM
Well, I don't play the same kinda stuff as you MDV, and I only wandered in here because I'd run out of threads I hadn't read ... :lol:

But that's a class review, and for a moment there you had me going "I gotta get me some of this!!"

Luckily for my wallet, I soon calmed down, turned up the volume on my Riff Raff'd SG (around my neck even as I type), and continued to noodle Eric-Clapton-Bluesbreakers-type riffs and licks like I have been all morning...

But one day, it's gonna be one of your reviews/replies that sticks me over the edge and places a contempory BKP in my signature line :lol:

Nice one.
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: dheim on September 13, 2009, 10:09:50 AM
great review!

i hate to say it, but i kept telling you that you should have given another chance to the bomb...  :)
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: MDV on September 13, 2009, 10:01:01 PM
Cheers andy....come on dheim, you told me, like, once, maybe twice!

And this is the c-bomb.

Try as I might, I just cant really get on with an A5 bridge. I can appreciate them, and see redeeming features independent of my tastes, but ceramics where its at in the bridge. 
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: With Full Distortion on November 12, 2010, 02:58:10 PM
Hey... Thats one really funny and awesome review.
whats your zodiacal sign by the way?
q: p

i Would like to know which what are the basical differences between the traditional NB and the ceramic.
does any frequency gets boost up LIKE THE MIDDLES maybe? Q: P
any frequency gets Reduced ?
The character of any of those frequencies get changed???
Hails and congratulations
NOW i want a CNB and maybe an AFtermath. Q: /
JP
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: MDV on November 13, 2010, 08:29:35 AM
My zodiacal sign? :lol:

Why dont you guess?

I mean, if theres a connection between character and the month you were born in then you should be able to work the sign backwards from the character, right? ;)
Anyway, the C-Bomb is a bit bassier than the A-Bomb, has a little less mids and a little more top end, Its sharper, tighter, hotter and a bit more compressed. Usual C8/A5 differences, but the C-Bomb is a little smoother in the top end than most ceramics.
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: Shotgun on November 13, 2010, 09:26:42 AM
What is the differences between the C-bomb and Aftermath, I know that you have an AM too and I've heard your soundclip with both of them, but I'm interested in the feel of playing and the live sound. My guitar has koa wood (similar to mahogany but a bit brighter) with ebony board and I play stacatto-ish percussive modern metal in drop H tuning. What's the differences with these pickups in my style?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: MDV on November 13, 2010, 09:54:19 AM
To play through....well, the aftermath fights you more. Its a harder pickup to play; it punishes loose playing, unclear picking and and fumbles of any sort mercilessly, but rewards precision much more.

With the C-Bomb youre going to find plenty of BK clarity, but its compression and (slight amount of) extra output give a lusher feel thats easier on the picking hand and fretting accuracy. Its got more of a 'guitar plays itself' feel.

Both would do your style, and if you want something that can get there but is easier on the technique then C-Bomb. But the aftermath will give you greater clarity and precision in stocatos and low tunings, but you have to play that much more clearly and precisely; it doesnt do it by magic, the extra is there if you can do it.
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: Shotgun on November 13, 2010, 10:28:06 AM
Thanks MDV! That was perfect answer for me. The accuracy and clear are so important if I have to practise harder to get the best picking techniqe for the best performance I will do that. I ordered a Camo Battleworn Aftermath and that was the good decision for me. IMO

Thanks a lot again!
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: MDV on November 13, 2010, 10:34:07 AM
Quite welcome. Good choice!
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: With Full Distortion on November 25, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
My zodiacal sign? :lol:

Why dont you guess?
I will. q: p
but i need to some more research on your posts and read.
ahahahah you seem to be either frmo the Fire element (Aries , Sagitarius or Leo) Or from the Air Element (Gemini, Libra, Aquarius) Q: p

Hummm Thats good to know about the differences between Nailbomb and ceramic Nailbomb.
I would like to have a Nailbomb with hotter Highs(like the Painkiller), The same amount of High Middles. Way more middles and a different character to the middles. Grinder middles. I love its Bass and i love its mid Bass.
I would like to have it with extra Clarity for Extreme metal and massive amounts of distortion.
cause compared to the Warpig that i have.. when i perform some palm mute/non palm mute a La Black/death metal... i feel that it lacks a bit of clarity and tightness.
That would be the perfect Bare knuckle pickup for me.
If it can be done, ill order mine right way and ill name it ... "Nihility"  name of the album and song from Decapitated.
Crushing,Meaty, Tight and screaming Fire.

Now that you talked about the Ceramic Warpig.. have you owned or played in a traditional Warpig? if so... can you compare both in the same style of comparison/description you did here with the Nailboms???

I would thank you very much
Hails
JP


I mean, if theres a connection between character and the month you were born in then you should be able to work the sign backwards from the character, right? ;)
Anyway, the C-Bomb is a bit bassier than the A-Bomb, has a little less mids and a little more top end, Its sharper, tighter, hotter and a bit more compressed. Usual C8/A5 differences, but the C-Bomb is a little smoother in the top end than most ceramics.
Title: Re: The ceramic nailbomb - a review-ish
Post by: ShredHeadJHJ on November 25, 2010, 08:59:31 PM
I heard Chris Broderick uses Nailbomb's. Any other big shred guys out there use them?