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Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: hunter on October 07, 2006, 05:13:52 AM
OK guys here's the deal: Which experience made you want to play the guitar in the first place? No matter how embarassing.

I've seen Knopfler play brothers in arms on Live Aid, that did it for me. Not digging him so much nowadays, but he was my ignition. After I saw him play I saved up for my first guitar. Which was your experience?
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Post by: 38thBeatle on October 07, 2006, 07:54:28 AM
Ignition was The Beatles-lift off was Ronnie Lane's bass line on The Faces "Stay With Me".
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 09:24:38 AM
Initially it was Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page & Dave Gilmore. I was around 8 years old at the time.

Then aged 11 The Sex Pistols exploded on the world. Steve Jones is still a hero of mine!  :lol:  I got a hand me down a guitar aged 11 and bought an electric guitar and WEM valve amp (still have the amp) for 25 pounds in 1980 aged 14 from work experience money.
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Post by: _tom_ on October 07, 2006, 09:44:13 AM
I saw the video for Smooth by Santana and decided I wanted to play, I bought the single and just used to wind to the solo and listen to that religiously  :lol: Stupid thing is I still havent learnt the solo.

Then after a couple of years I got into Zeppelin, Sabbath, Deep Purple etc and it just kinda went from there..
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Post by: blue on October 07, 2006, 09:52:38 AM
got Def Leppard's Hysteria shortly after it came out, played it til the tape broke!  wanted to be a singer then.  couple more followed, W.A.S.P.'s Headless Children being a particular favourite, then i disovered Guns'N'Roses and Slash, and my dream of a low slung Les Paul was born!
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Post by: fps_dean on October 07, 2006, 09:56:57 AM
My father always had guitars and I was always like cool! a guitar! can I play?  So finally he got sick of it, bought me a $40 Epiphone with 2 inch high action and taught me some chords and I stuck with it.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Twinfan on October 07, 2006, 11:24:33 AM
I've got no idea what mine was!  I started playing when I was seven or eight years old.  I've just always wanted to play guitar!
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Kilby on October 07, 2006, 11:31:05 AM
Documentry about Pete Townsend and Angus Young, a combination of My Generation, Whole lot of Rosie and hearing 8 Miles High (Anguses favourite song apparently).

Rob...
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: hunter on October 07, 2006, 12:03:04 PM
Great stuff guys, keep the stories coming !!
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Philly Q on October 07, 2006, 12:12:26 PM
I had a couple of false starts before ignition.

The first record that made me sit up and realise it was a GUITAR making that sound was Sultans of Swing by Dire Straits, in early 1979.  Before that I'd liked bands like Slade, ELO, Abba(!) etc and obviously I knew they played guitars, but I never really thought about the noises on the records and how they actually made them.

Later that year I got Rainbow's Down to Earth, then got into Purple and Ritchie Blackmore became my first guitar hero - I started to think about learning to play.

But IGNITION was in 1980, with the first Michael Schenker Group album, especially the song Lost Horizons.  Awesome!  What a sound!  That year I got a cheap Les Paul copy for Christmas (Flying V copies - especially black & white striped ones - were hard to come by in Swansea) and I was away...


... unfortunately after ignition I STALLED going round the first corner and never really got started again.  I never became the Welsh Michael Schenker.  Went to Uni, got a job, never practiced as much as I should have.  Never even became a half-competent guitar player.  But I still love it, and I'm still playing (using the term "playing" loosely), still dreaming, still GASing, still blowing money on equipment I can barely use, all these years later.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Hell Hound on October 07, 2006, 12:12:37 PM
Well... Saw Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit video on tv and that was it :lol: very far from what I'm listening and playing today
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 12:12:40 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
I've got no idea what mine was!  I started playing when I was seven or eight years old.  I've just always wanted to play guitar!


7 or 8! You must be good then!  8)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 12:16:17 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
I had a couple of false starts before ignition.

The first record that made me sit up and realise it was a GUITAR making that sound was Sultans of Swing by Dire Straits, in early 1979.  Before that I'd liked bands like Slade, ELO, Abba(!) etc and obviously I knew they played guitars, but I never really thought about the noises on the records and how they actually made them.

Later that year I got Rainbow's Down to Earth, then got into Purple and Ritchie Blackmore became my first guitar hero - I started to think about learning to play.

But IGNITION was in 1980, with the first Michael Schenker Group album, especially the song Lost Horizons.  Awesome!  What a sound!  That year I got a cheap Les Paul copy for Christmas (Flying V copies - especially black & white striped ones - were hard to come by in Swansea) and I was away...


... unfortunately after ignition I STALLED going round the first corner and never really got started again.  I never became the Welsh Michael Schenker.  Went to Uni, got a job, never practiced as much as I should have.  Never even became a half-competent guitar player.  But I still love it, and I'm still playing (using the term "playing" loosely), still dreaming, still GASing, still blowing money on equipment I can barely use, all these years later.


Still sounds good though!
What you could do now is get some lessons from a good teacher and use the new knowledge to improve slowly and then you will see a big difference if you practise like the teacher shows you!  8)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Kepu on October 07, 2006, 12:19:49 PM
one name: Metallica
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Philly Q on October 07, 2006, 12:22:02 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
What you could do now is get some lessons from a good teacher and use the new knowledge to improve slowly and then you will see a big difference if you practise like the teacher shows you!  8)

Been thinking about that recently, Johnny.  

I feel like I know a lot in my head but very little in my hands, and I never know what I should do to focus in the right direction.  I've even gone right back to basics a few times ("hold the plectrum between thumb and forefinger"), but it gets boring very quickly.

Anyone know any good teachers in the London area?
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 12:30:16 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: Johnny Mac
What you could do now is get some lessons from a good teacher and use the new knowledge to improve slowly and then you will see a big difference if you practise like the teacher shows you!  8)

Been thinking about that recently, Johnny.  

I feel like I know a lot in my head but very little in my hands, and I never know what I should do to focus in the right direction.  I've even gone right back to basics a few times ("hold the plectrum between thumb and forefinger"), but it gets boring very quickly.

Anyone know any good teachers in the London area?


Yes I do Philly Q! I put this info up i the past and two, how shall we say, uneducated ego trippers shot it down, or tried too!

The mans name is John Mizarolli. He has a website www.guitarguru.co.uk

Don't be put off by the hippy nature of this site! Music is more spiritual than most would like to admit.

He turned me around as i was just like you.

He will asses you and then put you through the mangle. But it works and you will improve if you practise what he teaches you.

He is jaw dropping good.He can improvise in any scale or mode, in any style.

Do it Philly Q!!   8)
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Post by: dave_mc on October 07, 2006, 12:45:46 PM
my friend borrowed the best of van halen out of the library (this was about 6 or 7 years ago) because he remembered jump was good. of course, the first track on it was eruption...

that was it for me. the minute I heard eruption, i wanted to play the guitar. I had always known guitar was cool etc., but at that time, there wasn't very much guitar-heavy music out. stuff like oasis, etc.

\m/
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Philly Q on October 07, 2006, 12:50:08 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Yes I do Philly Q! I put this info up i the past and two, how shall we say, uneducated ego trippers shot it down, or tried too!

The mans name is John Mizarolli. He has a website www.guitarguru.co.uk

Thanks Johnny, I've PM'd you.   :)  Don't want to hijack Hunter's thread.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
my friend borrowed the best of van halen out of the library (this was about 6 or 7 years ago) because he remembered jump was good. of course, the first track on it was eruption...

that was it for me. the minute I heard eruption, i wanted to play the guitar. I had always known guitar was cool etc., but at that time, there wasn't very much guitar-heavy music out. stuff like oasis, etc.

\m/


I used to be able to play the tapping part of eruption pretty much bang on. i've not tried for years as I stopped the tapping habit, but can still do it now and again. It became uncool! Well some said it was but i think it still is! (cool i mean!)

I can play a few Oasis songs as they go down well at house partys, well they used to anayway!  :lol:
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 07, 2006, 12:53:54 PM
i was round my mates house, and everybody there could play the SCOM intro cept me, so i kinda started cos i felt left out.....and cos girls love guitars :D
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Philly Q on October 07, 2006, 12:57:00 PM
SCOM?
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Post by: CaffeineJunkie on October 07, 2006, 12:57:42 PM
sweet child o' mine
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Post by: Philly Q on October 07, 2006, 12:59:21 PM
Of course, forgive me... I'm old and the memory's not what it was...  :oops:
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 01:03:51 PM
I know i can play it but you know what, I've never bothered! Why? I don't like cliches! Silly I know but silly is my middle name  :lol: Ok there's my ego showing its ugliness!
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Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 07, 2006, 01:32:12 PM
Ignition: a few high points

Brian may and Queen - because obsessed when Crazy little thing came out (1979) and fell in love with their back catalogue. Although seemed pretty complex to a 14 year old

Def Leppard - Let It Go /High and Dry LP (1980)  what great riffs!!!

Kiss Alive - that album with its simplicity but geat energy
I wanted a flying V after that - ended up with a classical with high action :(

MSG (1982) - OMG!! Schenker just had it all as far as i was concerned
Blizzard of Ozz - Randy was simply awesome
Motley Crue - too fast for love (original Leathur version - not Elecktra)
Ratt - first EP and Out of the cellar

1984 - Dokken Tooth and Nail - Lynch became my idol - more so than EVH
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: jt on October 07, 2006, 02:37:43 PM
:D Blimey this is difficult !

We had to learn an instrument at school, I liked guitar so i picked that. It became obviuos that i had a "musical ear" so i stuck with it. I ended up learning Beatles songs & realised that you didn`t just have to play all that old S**t that you had to learn when i was a kid. "Lay Down Your Head Tom Dooley" "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" etc etc. ignition point was

AC/DC "Highway To Hell" album Motorhead "Bomber"  & the "Metal For Muthas" album [ yes i`m that old i was there for NWOBHM ]

Later it was MSG & the single "Armed & Ready" Ozzy BoOz "Crazy Train" & EVH Oh & Purple.

 :D  8)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 03:53:58 PM
Quote from: jt
:D Blimey this is difficult !

We had to learn an instrument at school, I liked guitar so i picked that. It became obviuos that i had a "musical ear" so i stuck with it. I ended up learning Beatles songs & realised that you didn`t just have to play all that old S**t that you had to learn when i was a kid. "Lay Down Your Head Tom Dooley" "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" etc etc. ignition point was

AC/DC "Highway To Hell" album Motorhead "Bomber"  & the "Metal For Muthas" album [ yes i`m that old i was there for NWOBHM ]

Later it was MSG & the single "Armed & Ready" Ozzy BoOz "Crazy Train" & EVH Oh & Purple.

 :D  8)


Cool stuff Jt!  :D  So is Mr Dooley your old guitar teacher from school?
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Post by: jt on October 07, 2006, 04:14:30 PM
:D

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: nice one Johnny !!

For you young`ns.......When people my age started playing the music industry hadn`t worked out yet that we all wanted to play Johnny`B`goode so they wouldn`t release the songs we actually wanted to play because of copy write law. So we all had to learn old blues based hymns & such.  :roll:

You lot with your Tab dont no your born !!  :wink:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: DeanS on October 07, 2006, 04:17:42 PM
Ignition points for me were:

Rush-Fly by Night
Black Sabbath- Masters of Reality
UFO- Lights Out

and not to forget Jimi Hendrix- Are you experienced

and then some time after along came EVH to fan the flames!
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: _tom_ on October 07, 2006, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: jt
:D

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: nice one Johnny !!

For you young`ns.......When people my age started playing the music industry hadn`t worked out yet that we all wanted to play Johnny`B`goode so they wouldn`t release the songs we actually wanted to play because of copy write law. So we all had to learn old blues based hymns & such.  :roll:

You lot with your Tab dont no your born !!  :wink:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


hahah the majority of tabs on the internet seem to be cr@p anyway, I try to work out as much as I can with my ears but sometimes I just cant find the right note so use tabs for a bit of guidance. The other guy in the band I'm in relys on tabs for EVERYTHING. I had to work out and tab out the rhythm guitar bits for Mr Brownstone for him because he found it too hard   :roll:
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Post by: jt on October 07, 2006, 04:28:49 PM
:D Hi Tom thats how we used to do it back in the day !

play the record then lift the needle & replay it until you got it. We used to hang around guitar shops so we could hear the guys trying out gear & if they played something that was more "right" than you had it you could then nick it !!  :D

Tape machines made life a bit easier.  :wink:

 :D  8)
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Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 04:29:55 PM
Quote from: jt
:D

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: nice one Johnny !!

For you young`ns.......When people my age started playing the music industry hadn`t worked out yet that we all wanted to play Johnny`B`goode so they wouldn`t release the songs we actually wanted to play because of copy write law. So we all had to learn old blues based hymns & such.  :roll:

You lot with your Tab dont no your born !!  :wink:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


I know where your coming from Jt! Has he seen you play since school?

Support your local underdog!!

My father would not repeat not have anything to do with my interest in electric guitars what so ever! If I had asked for one for a birthday or xmas I would have run a risk of not getting anything at all! So I just played this old one my Grandad gave me, which was called a Cello guitar. It was acoustic and was used in dance bands in the 20's and before! I still have it but it's in a right state! Then I bought my electric and amp. My father used to burst into my room, even though i had the amp on as low as it would go, which wasn't loud and turn it off!
But I persevered!  :lol:
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: jt on October 07, 2006, 04:47:26 PM
:D Had the same problem !

My dad was cool about me wanting to Rock`n`Roll but i had no money so i had to get everything on HP. My dad would sign for the stuff so i could have it BUT i could never practice in the house as it was to loud !!

Fortunatly i lived just up the road from a rehearsal studio. So i could wail there when i could afford it !

 :D  8)

Forgot to say as i got older Rush became another ignition point for me. I still love `em even to this day.
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Post by: _tom_ on October 07, 2006, 04:50:14 PM
Although my dad doesnt like much rock music, he seems quite supportive and buys me gear for my birthdays if I do some chores for him and save up allowance to pay for half or whatever.. he just makes me close my window when I'm playing and says not to play after 9pm  :P
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: jt on October 07, 2006, 04:52:26 PM
Quote from: _tom_
Although my dad doesnt like much rock music, he seems quite supportive and buys me gear for my birthdays if I do some chores for him and save up allowance to pay for half or whatever.. he just makes me close my window when I'm playing and says not to play after 9pm  :P


 :D Your dad sounds like a reasonable guy Tom.

 :D  8)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: _tom_ on October 07, 2006, 04:54:10 PM
If only he understood tone, then he wouldnt question me wanting to get a Laney for rock/metal when clearly a Fender isnt suitable for metal :lol:
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Post by: Dakine on October 07, 2006, 05:12:45 PM
simple


na na   na na  na na  na  ANGUS

back in the day I passed my 11+ for Grammar school. Uniform sucked, rules sucked, but found loophole, NO regs. on hair length :) Used to get the new Maiden album or whatever and read the lyrics/sleeve notes to stop getting bored when had to go to Cathedral service once a month LOL. much better than some organ hymn mess.
Up till was about 27yo had hair nearly down to me ass  :twisted:
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: dave_mc on October 07, 2006, 05:16:03 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac

I used to be able to play the tapping part of eruption pretty much bang on. i've not tried for years as I stopped the tapping habit, but can still do it now and again. It became uncool! Well some said it was but i think it still is! (cool i mean!)

I can play a few Oasis songs as they go down well at house partys, well they used to anayway!  :lol:


Aye I can play most of eruption, but it doesn't really sound like eddie (apart from the tapping bit). I think I can play the riff to wonderwall too...  :?
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: dave_mc on October 07, 2006, 05:16:40 PM
Quote from: _tom_
Although my dad doesnt like much rock music, he seems quite supportive and buys me gear for my birthdays if I do some chores for him and save up allowance to pay for half or whatever.. he just makes me close my window when I'm playing and says not to play after 9pm  :P


close your window? does your dad camp out in the garden?
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: _tom_ on October 07, 2006, 05:18:17 PM
hahah! No, he just doesnt want the neighbors to complain. Even though I always play with my window open in the day (when dads not there :P) , with amp cranked and only ever got one complaint from some stuck up neighbors who are now moving out anyway :D
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: dave_mc on October 07, 2006, 05:20:51 PM
^ ah, ok, lol. I normally close the window when I'm playing too. Don't want to give them any excuse, lol.

:drink:
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: jt
:D Had the same problem !

My dad was cool about me wanting to Rock`n`Roll but i had no money so i had to get everything on HP. My dad would sign for the stuff so i could have it BUT i could never practice in the house as it was to loud !!

Fortunatly i lived just up the road from a rehearsal studio. So i could wail there when i could afford it !

 :D  8)

Forgot to say as i got older Rush became another ignition point for me. I still love `em even to this day.


Empathy! Great stuff Jt!  :lol: I did try the shed at one point with my mate who used his dads Hofner President Bass, but that bore the wrath of my Dad via the pissed of neighbours!

Rush is something i need to get more of! Based on what I've heard so far they are incredible!
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 05:56:24 PM
Quote from: _tom_
Quote from: jt
:D

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: nice one Johnny !!

For you young`ns.......When people my age started playing the music industry hadn`t worked out yet that we all wanted to play Johnny`B`goode so they wouldn`t release the songs we actually wanted to play because of copy write law. So we all had to learn old blues based hymns & such.  :roll:

You lot with your Tab dont no your born !!  :wink:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


hahah the majority of tabs on the internet seem to be cr@p anyway, I try to work out as much as I can with my ears but sometimes I just cant find the right note so use tabs for a bit of guidance. The other guy in the band I'm in relys on tabs for EVERYTHING. I had to work out and tab out the rhythm guitar bits for Mr Brownstone for him because he found it too hard   :roll:


Well that's how i do it too Tom and it's paying off for you as we have heard your clips!
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Twinfan on October 07, 2006, 06:43:01 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: Twinfan
I've got no idea what mine was!  I started playing when I was seven or eight years old.  I've just always wanted to play guitar!


7 or 8! You must be good then!  8)


I'm 31 now, and not as good as you'd think actually  :(

I'm more of a rhythm player than lead, and in that area I reckon I can hold my own against most people.  I'm really enjoying being Angus in YC/DC as it's forcing my lead playing to catch up!
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 06:47:33 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: Twinfan
I've got no idea what mine was!  I started playing when I was seven or eight years old.  I've just always wanted to play guitar!


7 or 8! You must be good then!  8)


I'm 31 now, and not as good as you'd think actually  :(

I'm more of a rhythm player than lead, and in that area I reckon I can hold my own against most people.  I'm really enjoying being Angus in YC/DC as it's forcing my lead playing to catch up!


My bruv and me checked out your myspace site around midday and he said that bare knuckle site you go in is very cool, he sounds good! I think you do too! My bruvs seen AC/DC all over Europe and loves em!  8)  8)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 07, 2006, 06:49:44 PM
Simple:

When I was 10, my older cousins took me to see Ozzy with Randy Rhoads on guitar. I was scared sh!tless b/c it was so loud and scary, but when I saw Randy, I knew that was gonna be me some day.

2 years later I heard Rush and that underlined it. I saw Rush for the Signals tour, and every tour since ...

3 years after Ozzy I got into Priest/Maiden.

... and then I heard Dokken, and it was all over. Lynch's playing spoke to me in a way no one's ever had, and still does to this day.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: 38thBeatle on October 07, 2006, 07:08:44 PM
Blimey this thread developed really well- nice one Hunter! very interesting reading all the stuff and it is amazing that we have so much in common-by which I mean the inspiration and passion. Just to elaborate upon my post (and to those who mightn't realise it) I was primarily a bass player but learned guitar too as I felt that the chords were essential to my bass playing development. McCartney and Ronnie Lane were major influences (anyone remember The Faces?) but as a wee lad, the Beatles were ..well just special and I have never stopped loving them.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Kilby on October 07, 2006, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: _tom_
Although my dad doesnt like much rock music, he seems quite supportive and buys me gear for my birthdays if I do some chores for him and save up allowance to pay for half or whatever


There was no music allowed on our house (Jim Reeves and James Last don't count as music to me), 'twas also in the days of no tab, DVD or the like. The constant critisism meant I can't even play in front of a guitar tutor now.

Happily my kids are being encouraged, and he is making some effort with the school guitar lessond (don't know how much I like them teaching Nirvana tracks but thats only on taste grounds ;) ) So I have my son my wolfgang for his birthday during the week. Any other kit he want's however he will have to work for ;)

Rob...
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 07, 2006, 07:33:50 PM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
but as a wee lad, the Beatles were ..well just special and I have never stopped loving them.

Really?! Never woulda guessed, Mr 38th Beatle! :)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Twinfan on October 07, 2006, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: Twinfan
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: Twinfan
I've got no idea what mine was!  I started playing when I was seven or eight years old.  I've just always wanted to play guitar!


7 or 8! You must be good then!  8)


I'm 31 now, and not as good as you'd think actually  :(

I'm more of a rhythm player than lead, and in that area I reckon I can hold my own against most people.  I'm really enjoying being Angus in YC/DC as it's forcing my lead playing to catch up!


My bruv and me checked out your myspace site around midday and he said that bare knuckle site you go in is very cool, he sounds good! I think you do too! My bruvs seen AC/DC all over Europe and loves em!  8)  8)


Cheers dude - we're better live!  Our enthusiasm and "feel" come across so much better!
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Kilby on October 07, 2006, 07:47:36 PM
Quote from: Twinfan

Cheers dude - we're better live!  Our enthusiasm and "feel" come across so much better!


Despite what the shredders say, thats whats important (as to get some feel you need a decent tune).
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Kilby
Quote from: _tom_
Although my dad doesnt like much rock music, he seems quite supportive and buys me gear for my birthdays if I do some chores for him and save up allowance to pay for half or whatever


There was no music allowed on our house (Jim Reeves and James Last don't count as music to me), 'twas also in the days of no tab, DVD or the like. The constant critisism meant I can't even play in front of a guitar tutor now.

Happily my kids are being encouraged, and he is making some effort with the school guitar lessond (don't know how much I like them teaching Nirvana tracks but thats only on taste grounds ;) ) So I have my son my wolfgang for his birthday during the week. Any other kit he want's however he will have to work for ;)

Rob...


Hey Kilby!

Come on now, you can play in front of a tutor, it's just you haven't learnt it yet, like that lost chord or lick that you have been trying for years. I had that phobia. I haven't now and will happily play in front of anyone. It's going to a teacher that will build your confidence. That what it's all about anyway. You get past that hurdle and it can spill over into other areas of your life! In a positive and good way. My father tried to hold me back when i was younger. He was jealous. I reared up at him a few weeks back cos he knows what buttons to push to set me off. Not in a violent way but just verbally. A few weeks back he hugged me for what seems like the first time in my life! So it takes a few steps to leave your past behind for good. Whatever that is.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Kilby on October 07, 2006, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Come on now, you can play in front of a tutor, it's just you haven't learnt it yet, like that lost chord or lick that you have been trying for years.
--clipped---
So it takes a few steps to leave you past behind for good. Whatever that is.


Hey I wish it was, but I literally shake and can't hold the pick. My wife has said several times why can I play properly on my own but when she walks in I fall apart. funny thing though I'm not adverse to arseing about on a bass in public.

As for the past, my father eventually helped me resurrect an Antoria SG when I was older, but by that time I was having to work to support myself @ college. I will have to get some nice pickups for that guitar as a maple SG is fairly unusual, and it plays so well (better than the Peavey or Fender)

If I ever get a job back at home I have actually decided to force myself to take lessons (no matter how I feel).

The important thing is however that neither of my kids have the same problem, and it's nice to see that the younger members are (for the most part) getting support.

anyway back to the influences

Rob...
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 08:52:06 PM
^ ok I've tried to figure out some of the Jeff Beck stuff I've bought recently! Hmmm...it's hard to say the least!  :lol:
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Dakine on October 07, 2006, 09:14:19 PM
Mr.38th ;) (shall remain anonymous, as Batman ;)), I started on bass too.

My reason was patience, in learning chords, was not great at that early age.

I do believe, upon reflection, the rythm is more what got to me though. AC/DC after all is almost 'tribal' in there beat.

And thus,older,wiser and with accordingly more patience I caress 6 strings, yet I still find myself drawn more to the rythm playing than single note leads, the rythm again I tell ya :)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2006, 09:50:46 PM
Quote from: Dakine
Mr.38th ;) (shall remain anonymous, as Batman ;)), I started on bass too.

My reason was patience, in learning chords, was not great at that early age.

I do believe, upon reflection, the rythm is more what got to me though. AC/DC after all is almost 'tribal' in there beat.

And thus,older,wiser and with accordingly more patience I caress 6 strings, yet I still find myself drawn more to the rythm playing than single note leads, the rythm again I tell ya :)


Woah! This is interesting! Although i never had a bass, i used to pick out bass lines on the guitar for the same reasons!
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Deadstar on October 07, 2006, 10:26:54 PM
Funny you should mention JB cause for me it was actually seeing Jeff Beck playing on the Jools Holland show Hootenanny (New years thing) when I was about 15 (I'm 19 now) and I just remember begging for about three months or so until my birthday came round. Then I learn about two riffs and a few chords or so and metallica's "One" video came on the TV  (at the time I'd heard of them but not heard much) my jaw dropped it was the coolest thing ever. So then I learn the Master of puppets whole way through except the second solo (took me a while at the time.) Learned to play Barre chords aswell on a Bass for some reason - probably why I use really heavy strings and a relatively high set-up now.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: 38thBeatle on October 07, 2006, 10:44:57 PM
Nick, same as me- the rhythm was far more important than the lead stuff for me and that is still the case today. That said, I am now obviously playing lead but as I am most at home with blues, I am a little one dimensional but I love a wide range of stuff so thats ok.At the moment I am not playing much bass though I have been recording some new songs and it all comes back pretty quick.Incidentally, it is not easy to type all this as my cat has decided to sit in front of the screen.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Dakine on October 07, 2006, 11:07:38 PM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
Nick, same as me- the rhythm was far more important than the lead stuff for me and that is still the case today. That said, I am now obviously playing lead but as I am most at home with blues, I am a little one dimensional but I love a wide range of stuff so thats ok.At the moment I am not playing much bass though I have been recording some new songs and it all comes back pretty quick.Incidentally, it is not easy to type all this as my cat has decided to sit in front of the screen.


As long as thats ALL the cat does, hey Rob ;) sorry mate.

Not played bass for long time (NEVER EVER should have sold that exotic,neckthru Wariwick  :(  :(  :(   ).

And as for the Blues, thats pretty much ALL I am concentrating on these days.
I say (for moment at least) ya can keep all those exotic and hitherto scales, gimme the mother of Rock! the BLUES SCALE. If I can attain any kinda 'gift' with this, then the rock,metal,blues ad infinitum world is mine I tell ya ahahahahahahahaha  :twisted:
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Kilby on October 07, 2006, 11:24:09 PM
Quote from: Dakine
Quote from: 38thBeatle

--- Clipped ---

Incidentally, it is not easy to type all this as my cat has decided to sit in front of the screen.


As long as thats ALL the cat does, hey Rob ;) sorry mate.
---Clipped---
And as for the Blues, thats pretty much ALL I am concentrating on these days.


Hey the landladys particularly stupid cat has been leaving little parcels of love over the living room carpet for the last 5 days. It was particularly gross when she got down to sniff the stains (the solids had long since been removed) and said "I can't smell it are you sure it wasn't puke ?"

Have to agree (despite my abysmal playing) I always beleved that you mastered the basics before moving on, and very few players ever truely master the blues scale. Many may do so from the technical side of things, but very few from feel and emotion (IMHO)

Rob...
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Davey on October 07, 2006, 11:47:13 PM
i saw myself in the future after 15 years of playing guitar and i knew i HAD to get that good, so i went out and bought me a guitar.

the rest is history... and a bit of future

 :roll:
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 08, 2006, 01:29:14 AM
Quote from: Dakine
Quote from: 38thBeatle
Nick, same as me- the rhythm was far more important than the lead stuff for me and that is still the case today. That said, I am now obviously playing lead but as I am most at home with blues, I am a little one dimensional but I love a wide range of stuff so thats ok.At the moment I am not playing much bass though I have been recording some new songs and it all comes back pretty quick.Incidentally, it is not easy to type all this as my cat has decided to sit in front of the screen.


As long as thats ALL the cat does, hey Rob ;) sorry mate.

Not played bass for long time (NEVER EVER should have sold that exotic,neckthru Wariwick  :(  :(  :(   ).

And as for the Blues, thats pretty much ALL I am concentrating on these days.
I say (for moment at least) ya can keep all those exotic and hitherto scales, gimme the mother of Rock! the BLUES SCALE. If I can attain any kinda 'gift' with this, then the rock,metal,blues ad infinitum world is mine I tell ya ahahahahahahahaha  :twisted:


I love having a go at blues. I use my strat with the IT's and it's a lovely place to go!

It gets the rage away from you if thats what your looking for.

That Jeff Beck gig i went to was fantastic to listen to but also to see the effect he has on people in the audience too.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: chrisola on October 08, 2006, 02:53:43 AM
Iron Maiden, Live After Death on VHS... Arian Smith = God

Queen was a big influence, as was a Planet Rock 4 tape set that had Born To Be Wild and other great tracks on.

and

i had to make a radio station for a class in secondary school, me and a friend added in a little music bit where we mimed \ sang to Live and Let Die (like Waynes World style funny program,... but on the radio.. and before the film came out in the UK!)... then we formed a band called 'Red Sands' and did a 'rock a long' for charity where we air guitared \ kareoke'd various bon jovi and maiden tracks to an audience of about 40 school mates! (the ONLY time i've ever 'performed' to an audience lol)

3 years later a guitar shop opened near me and i hung around it until i had a guitar for my birthday :D


Man... thinking about that brought back memories... like the another English project where me (and the same friend) had to write dialogue between 2 characters from a painting, and we chose 2 items of food as the characters :P
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: jt on October 08, 2006, 02:54:43 AM
:D Holy F**k Batman i cant believe i forgot to mention AC/DC in my response to this thread. :roll:

As it go`s i allways wanted to be Malcom Young, he allways looked to be having the most fun !

It was the power his playing conveyd that i dug. Check out "Live Wire" from the live at atlantic studios 77 for proof of how good Malc really is.

 :D  8)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 08, 2006, 07:15:53 AM
Quote from: chrisola
Iron Maiden, Live After Death on VHS... Arian Smith = God

Queen was a big influence, as was a Planet Rock 4 tape set that had Born To Be Wild and other great tracks on.

and

i had to make a radio station for a class in secondary school, me and a friend added in a little music bit where we mimed \ sang to Live and Let Die (like Waynes World style funny program,... but on the radio.. and before the film came out in the UK!)... then we formed a band called 'Red Sands' and did a 'rock a long' for charity where we air guitared \ kareoke'd various bon jovi and maiden tracks to an audience of about 40 school mates! (the ONLY time i've ever 'performed' to an audience lol)

3 years later a guitar shop opened near me and i hung around it until i had a guitar for my birthday :D


Man... thinking about that brought back memories... like the another English project where me (and the same friend) had to write dialogue between 2 characters from a painting, and we chose 2 items of food as the characters :P



Sounds like a good story Chris!  :D

It's interesting that you say it brings back memorys too. I'm trying to remember old riffs and stuff I learnt years ago and once you start..... 8)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 08, 2006, 07:17:15 AM
Quote from: Davey
i saw myself in the future after 15 years of playing guitar and i knew i HAD to get that good, so i went out and bought me a guitar.

the rest is history... and a bit of future

 :roll:


 :lol:  :lol:  8)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: fps_dean on October 08, 2006, 08:51:35 AM
Quote from: Twinfan
I've got no idea what mine was!  I started playing when I was seven or eight years old.  I've just always wanted to play guitar!

I started at seven too I'm fairly sure... maybe before that even, I don't really remember...  I think the day my father bought that ol Epiphone acoustic was shortly after my 7th birthday and the next day he started teaching me chords.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Dakine on October 08, 2006, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: Dakine
Quote from: 38thBeatle
Nick, same as me- the rhythm was far more important than the lead stuff for me and that is still the case today. That said, I am now obviously playing lead but as I am most at home with blues, I am a little one dimensional but I love a wide range of stuff so thats ok.At the moment I am not playing much bass though I have been recording some new songs and it all comes back pretty quick.Incidentally, it is not easy to type all this as my cat has decided to sit in front of the screen.


As long as thats ALL the cat does, hey Rob ;) sorry mate.

Not played bass for long time (NEVER EVER should have sold that exotic,neckthru Wariwick  :(  :(  :(   ).

And as for the Blues, thats pretty much ALL I am concentrating on these days.
I say (for moment at least) ya can keep all those exotic and hitherto scales, gimme the mother of Rock! the BLUES SCALE. If I can attain any kinda 'gift' with this, then the rock,metal,blues ad infinitum world is mine I tell ya ahahahahahahahaha  :twisted:


I love having a go at blues. I use my strat with the IT's and it's a lovely place to go!

It gets the rage away from you if thats what your looking for.

That Jeff Beck gig i went to was fantastic to listen to but also to see the effect he has on people in the audience too.


HAHA,
do'nt mean when playing the 'blues scale/notes' it aint on 'modern' channel on the Mesa  :twisted:
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: mecca777 on October 08, 2006, 10:54:08 PM
Everyone keep 'em coming! I love reading people's stories about their early inspiration on the guitar.

For me, it was a way of staying close with my dad after my parents divorced. On weekends my brother and I would stay at his place, but he would often go out on the Saturday morning to see his girlfriend of the day, leaving us in front of the TV. As soon as we heard his car pull off, out came the Hendrix and Rainbow LPs and down came the prized Strat from the top of the bedroom cupboard, and Rich and I would take turns trying to work out "Hey Joe" or "Smoke On The Water" so that we could show off to him when he got back. After that my dad would take us to the local library and we could choose tapes and CDs to get out and listen to in the car; I used to pick any heavy metal CDs that looked like they might be cool, which was how I ended up hearing Megadeth, Ozzy and Michael Schenker for the first time. This inevitably resulted in a desire to play the guitar forever, which remains unabated seventeen years later. :)

(Incidentally, my policy of selecting any CD that looked like heavy metal did have the unfortunate side-effect of giving me a life-long love of Warlock/Doro, but that's a small price to pay for the gift of rock.)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 09, 2006, 12:18:54 AM
Quote from: mecca777
Everyone keep 'em coming! I love reading people's stories about their early inspiration on the guitar.

For me, it was a way of staying close with my dad after my parents divorced. On weekends my brother and I would stay at his place, but he would often go out on the Saturday morning to see his girlfriend of the day, leaving us in front of the TV. As soon as we heard his car pull off, out came the Hendrix and Rainbow LPs and down came the prized Strat from the top of the bedroom cupboard, and Rich and I would take turns trying to work out "Hey Joe" or "Smoke On The Water" so that we could show off to him when he got back. After that my dad would take us to the local library and we could choose tapes and CDs to get out and listen to in the car; I used to pick any heavy metal CDs that looked like they might be cool, which was how I ended up hearing Megadeth, Ozzy and Michael Schenker for the first time. This inevitably resulted in a desire to play the guitar forever, which remains unabated seventeen years later. :)

(Incidentally, my policy of selecting any CD that looked like heavy metal did have the unfortunate side-effect of giving me a life-long love of Warlock/Doro, but that's a small price to pay for the gift of rock.)


Nice one Dude and welcome to the forum!  :D

Guitars, we love em!!  8)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Muso on October 09, 2006, 10:54:18 AM
I got into guitar from listening to Space Oddity by Bowie, kinda weird I was just really facinated with that song (I used to smoke a lot of pot). Anyway things just developed from there, working my way through "the complete rock and pop guitar player vol 1" learning such classics as YMCA lol and Mul of Kintire onto crazy stuff like Jason Becker and Greg Howe. I got obsessed with Jason Becker/marty Friedman stuff for a while just all those harmonies and arpeggios, pretty silly really!
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Muttley on October 09, 2006, 04:47:08 PM
My ignition started with a slow burning fuse.

As a kid my favourite bands were an eclectic mix of Adam & The Ants, Queen, Duran Duran and The Specials.  I always mucked around playing air guitar and such, but it honestly never occured to me to try and get a guitar (money was tight in our house).  After several years I somehow acquired a nylon stringed acoustic (I think my mum bought it from someone she worked with) and started noodling around learning a few (a very few) chords.  At the time though I was really distracted with writing games on my Commodore 64, so it didn't get the attention it deserved.

A year or so later I discovered the Friday Rock Show one night, with the sadly missed Tommy Vance (TV on the Radio! :)) presenting.  I can clearly remember some of the bands he played that night.  Saxon, Budgie, Marillion, AC/DC being a few.  I was blown away by some of the guitar work.  Then a friend of mine leant me a mix tape that he'd done which included tracks by Warlock, Dio, Magnum (and some others I can't remember).

That was it really.  I bought an Ibanez (some kind of SC strat copy, no idea what model) from said friend who had inherited it from a flat his parents rented out (the band living there had done a runner without paying the rent and left some stuff behind :lol:).  50 I think it cost me.  Then mum came to the rescue once more and managed to get a small Carlsbro practice amp from someone she worked with (80ish).  This thing was so cr@p that if you cranked the gain all the way up (the only way to get it even slightly distorted) it used to pick up police radio.  :lol:

Then I started listening to Iron Maiden, Kiss, Metallica, Yngwie Malmsteen, Marillion.

The rest is pre-history...

Muttley
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Brow on October 09, 2006, 07:37:14 PM
I originally started playing guitar when I was 8 (I can't remember 'why' though) but soon quit when I moved up to 'big school'  :lol:

It's 1 of my biggest regrets in life so far!  :oops:

What got me started playing again was KISS Alive, early Aerosmith and Guns n Roses albums. It also gave me the desire to own a 'proper' Les Paul  :D
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Muttley on October 09, 2006, 08:23:01 PM
Quote from: mecca777
(Incidentally, my policy of selecting any CD that looked like heavy metal did have the unfortunate side-effect of giving me a life-long love of Warlock/Doro, but that's a small price to pay for the gift of rock.)


Nowt wrong with a bit of Doro... or a lot even!  *drools*  ;)

Muttley
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: DeanS on October 09, 2006, 08:44:22 PM
Oh, and I'd add Richie Blackmore-Deep Purple....... and how could I forget Uli Jon Roth- Scorpions- wonderful player
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Dakine on October 09, 2006, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: Muttley
Quote from: mecca777
(Incidentally, my policy of selecting any CD that looked like heavy metal did have the unfortunate side-effect of giving me a life-long love of Warlock/Doro, but that's a small price to pay for the gift of rock.)


Nowt wrong with a bit of Doro... or a lot even!  *drools*  ;)

Muttley


Doro YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lisa Domanique  NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: LiamH on October 09, 2006, 10:25:25 PM
I loved guitar like crazy but never played as a kid. I started playing bass at 14 (many moons ago) and what got me into guitar was a combination of good 80's music such as

- King Kong - Frank Zappa
- Call it Sleep - Steve Vai (never sure whether that made me want to give up as it was too good)
- Home - PiL (Vai again - breathtaking)
- Yngwie Malmsteen - Trilogy Suite - ok he is one bloated alky, but he can play
- Stevie Ray Vaughan - Change It - great song
-  Tal Farlow and Django Reinhart - I got a couple of albums when my grandad died: if you like music jazz gets you in then end.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: _tom_ on October 14, 2006, 06:19:07 PM
I actually just remembered it wasnt that Santana song which sparked my interest in guitar! It was Beat It by Michael Jackson! I always used to put it in my tape player and just fast forward to the solo :lol: Is it evh on the recording? Sounds a lot like him..
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: deg0ey on October 14, 2006, 06:21:10 PM
Quote from: _tom_
I actually just remembered it wasnt that Santana song which sparked my interest in guitar! It was Beat It by Michael Jackson! I always used to put it in my tape player and just fast forward to the solo :lol: Is it evh on the recording? Sounds a lot like him..


Aye, it is EVH - great solo :)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: hunter on October 14, 2006, 06:30:25 PM
Eddie on the Solo, Steve Lukather on the rhythm. To me it's Eddie's best solo on a studio recording, and I read once that it was actually a warm up that they recorded without him knowing, and they kept it as final take.

Adorable ...
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: _tom_ on October 14, 2006, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: hunter
Eddie on the Solo, Steve Lukather on the rhythm. To me it's Eddie's best solo on a studio recording, and I read once that it was actually a warm up that they recorded without him knowing, and they kept it as final take.

Adorable ...


I agree with that, its my favourite solo by Ed. Gotta learn it sometime, or at least try and fail  :P
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: hunter on October 14, 2006, 08:17:53 PM
Quote from: _tom_

I agree with that, its my favourite solo by Ed. Gotta learn it sometime, or at least try and fail  :P


Here is the perfect tutorial for this ... for trying :)

http://www.ibreathemusic.com/article/16
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: _tom_ on October 14, 2006, 08:23:49 PM
Cheers for that link. When I get my strat all finished I'll have to try it, thats never gonna sound right on a LP  :)
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: LiamH on October 14, 2006, 08:43:21 PM
Hunter: nice recommendation for the iBreathemusic site. I had never heard of it, but it is very good. Thanks.
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: Muttley on October 14, 2006, 11:38:52 PM
Quote from: Dakine
Quote from: Muttley
Quote from: mecca777
(Incidentally, my policy of selecting any CD that looked like heavy metal did have the unfortunate side-effect of giving me a life-long love of Warlock/Doro, but that's a small price to pay for the gift of rock.)


Nowt wrong with a bit of Doro... or a lot even!  *drools*  ;)

Muttley


Doro YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lisa Domanique  NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :)


(http://jackwolak.com/12pd/470.jpg)

:lol:

Muttley
Title: What was your Guitar Ignition?
Post by: deg0ey on October 15, 2006, 12:55:09 PM
:? Why's she got orange stripes? Pretending to be a tiger???