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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #165 on: November 27, 2008, 06:38:18 PM »
isn't a guitar dropped down an octave just, well,... a bass?

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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #166 on: November 27, 2008, 06:40:56 PM »
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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #167 on: November 27, 2008, 06:41:56 PM »
isn't a guitar dropped down an octave just, well,... a bass?

Yeah, Lemmys been doing it for 30 odd years!
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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #168 on: November 27, 2008, 07:05:46 PM »
I demand clips of an octave and half step de-tuned guitar. What gauge strings do you use?

But isn't that just Eb? That's only a half step down :lol: *rolls eyes*

Seriously though, I want to see + know too.
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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #169 on: November 27, 2008, 11:01:58 PM »
Still waiting for a clip  8)

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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #170 on: November 28, 2008, 10:21:28 AM »
isn't a guitar dropped down an octave just, well,... a bass?

In technical pitch but a guitars EQ + amp + pickups etc = completley different sound obviously.

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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #171 on: November 28, 2008, 11:06:13 AM »
isn't a guitar dropped down an octave just, well,... a bass?

In technical pitch but a guitars EQ + amp + pickups etc = completley different sound obviously.

That's why I posted the pic of the 6-string bass.

A guitar tuned that low probable sounds flabby unless you use actual bass strings. I'm also wondering about intonation problems.

normal guitar speakers aren't designed for those frequencies.

At some point someone will have a (bass)guitar tuned so low you won't be able to hear it.
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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #172 on: November 28, 2008, 12:36:50 PM »



At some point someone will have a (bass)guitar tuned so low you won't be able to hear it.

i read an interview years ago with Jah Wobble where he reckoned that he recorded bass parts that were too low frequency to be audible, but their presence in the track was integral to it's sound and feel.  i just though "pretentious tw@t!" :)
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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #173 on: November 28, 2008, 12:41:25 PM »



At some point someone will have a (bass)guitar tuned so low you won't be able to hear it.

i read an interview years ago with Jah Wobble where he reckoned that he recorded bass parts that were too low frequency to be audible, but their presence in the track was integral to it's sound and feel.  i just though "pretentious tw@t!" :)

bandwidth matters. Yes, bandwidth beyond audiable. It affects the envelope of the sound in the audiable range.

Also, you can feel sub-audiable frequencies in your bones, which is a big deal if its loud enough with speakers that can produce it.

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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #174 on: November 28, 2008, 07:55:06 PM »
So...no clips?

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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #175 on: November 29, 2008, 01:12:30 AM »
isn't a guitar dropped down an octave just, well,... a bass?

In technical pitch but a guitars EQ + amp + pickups etc = completley different sound obviously.

When you start to get into 'bass' territory with a guitar, then you start to hear less of the fundamental note, and more of the harmonics, so you get a different tonality to the same note played on an actual bass.
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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #176 on: November 30, 2008, 12:36:28 PM »
Interesting. I guess it's for given reasons Meshuggah use huge strings even though they use a 32" scale I believe + amp modelers/no cabs live.

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Re: I am officially FED UP with downtuning
« Reply #177 on: December 18, 2008, 05:58:00 PM »
No clips then?  :lol: