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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2009, 11:54:58 AM »
The only time I ever didnt get what Tim suggested was the only time I ever sent bare knuckles back. The ones he said to get in the first place ended up being my favourite.

Do what he says.
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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2009, 04:34:26 PM »
Doesnt mean no one should.

of course not, if not the contrary! ;)
but, if i've understood more or less how should a MM sound i don't think they match too well
Why not?

i was just guessing, you know... bridge MM should be scooped (but i haven't got it yet so i just say what i heard on this forum), neck NB is bright and full of high mids... i'm not saying that they don't fit together, i just said they would be a strange couple...  :)

The Bridge MM is not scooped. It is marginally more scooped than the more mid-heavy pickups such as the PK or Nailbomb, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't have plenty of mids itself!! I find it can appear scooped sometimes because it accentuates the lows on the low strings and the highs on the high strings, but, at least in my experience, I find the MM a very balanced pickup.

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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2009, 04:55:44 PM »
Doesnt mean no one should.

of course not, if not the contrary! ;)
but, if i've understood more or less how should a MM sound i don't think they match too well
Why not?

i was just guessing, you know... bridge MM should be scooped (but i haven't got it yet so i just say what i heard on this forum), neck NB is bright and full of high mids... i'm not saying that they don't fit together, i just said they would be a strange couple...  :)

The Bridge MM is not scooped. It is marginally more scooped than the more mid-heavy pickups such as the PK or Nailbomb, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't have plenty of mids itself!! I find it can appear scooped sometimes because it accentuates the lows on the low strings and the highs on the high strings, but, at least in my experience, I find the MM a very balanced pickup.

Roo
Then what do you suggest?

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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2009, 09:33:29 AM »
Maybe neck Cold Sweat match better?

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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2009, 10:41:02 AM »
Maybe neck Cold Sweat match better?

This thread really doesn't need 4 pages - go with Tim's suggestion!

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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2009, 10:48:35 AM »
Maybe neck Cold Sweat match better?

This thread really doesn't need 4 pages - go with Tim's suggestion!
We aren't come to an end!

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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2009, 11:23:00 AM »
i agree with roo... the fact is that EVERY contemporay BKP set works perfectly in a melodic death metal sound... they could be more or less precise but the're all tight and clear, perfect for both intricate riffing and longer lead passages... noone of them is a one-trick pony, noone of them is really dry, and noone is really loose... of course a nailbomb is middier than a cold sweat, smoother than a pankiller and brighter than a warpig or a holy diver, and so on... the thing you should ask yourself is what's the element of your tone you want to emphasize. you can't go wrong with ANY contemporary set, after all many reference tones come from stock pickups or "generic" devices like the JP or the EMG81 that is a very dry pickup indeed...
i've got EVERY contemporary set, exception made for the MMs - but i've just ordered them! :) - and the ceramic customs... i can tell you that for your genre i'd choose PK, NB or WP, but eric hellstyle could say that HD are way better, Nolly could say that CS are absolutely superior and someone else could tell you to choose vintage pickups and push them to limit. noone's wrong... you have to find what better fits your playing style and your unique sound.
if you ask someone you'll never get the RIGHT and definitive answer... but if you want something that gets close ask Tim... he's got much more experience than everyone of us!
Mule, MQ, Stockholm, CS, RY, MM, PK, ANB, CNB, AWP, CWP, PiG90...

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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2009, 03:49:06 PM »
Sorry about hijacking the thread, but maybe we can join forces as I'm sort of in the same boat:

I’m planning to get my first 7 string guitar wich will probably be the Ibanez RG1527M if it ever comes to Europe (which seems unlikely so far) or the regular RG1527. They’re both basswood body guitars with a 25.5 inch scale.

So, right now I have a Washburn N2 tuned to B standard with a set of Evo's and I like the tone, having coil tap in both pu's, which gives you some nice options for cleans. But I don't play much in other guitars, so I don't actually know if I'm missing something.

So, since it's the “law” to swap pickups in these guitars, if I was going for BKP, what would you recommend? I like to play a lot of stuff, and although I won't be selling the other guitar (my first and only for... 14 years??), the 1527 should become my main guitar, so it won't be strictly a metal machine, although it's the main purpose. Song-wise, my references are Death-Symbolic, Carcass-Heartwork, Pantera, some more progressive stuff like Cynic, I was a fan of Dream Theater until Scenes of a Memory, then I lost interest, Devin Townsend, and instrumental guitar rock, like Satriani, Andy Timmons, Vai, or hard-rock like Van Halen (I'm always amazed with the Balance tone and songs!). These last mean less aggressive to clean tones, although not Fender clean. Tone-wise, from the above, I'll limit myself to Nevermore, Devin Townsend, some Dream Theater, Vai and Van Halen. I don't mean I want to copy those tones, just to play in the same ballpark. The other bands I mentioned, I think the tone works for them, not so much for me.

If it matters, I’m thinking about using 10-59 strings and will mostly use a Line6 X3. I also have a Laney GH50L but I can’t play it much anymore.

So, what would be your recommendations for BKP for this guitar and what can I expect from them compared to my Evo's (considering they’re in a guitar with different woods)?
I was already pointed to MM bridge (including from Tim himself) and CS neck or a CS set. I'm a bit afraid of the MM since it's said to be the less versatile BKP, and I want to have my clean tone options. From what I've red, the Nailbomb seems more versatile, but I'dd like to hear it from you.

If you feel this should be in a different thread, I apologize and I'll open a new one. Just thought I could join in.

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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2009, 11:30:14 AM »
The only time I ever didnt get what Tim suggested was the only time I ever sent bare knuckles back. The ones he said to get in the first place ended up being my favourite.

Do what he says.
Then I should buy the C-Pig! :D

l' hai comprato? ;)

   
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-Cort KXMP1 custom shop with Painkiller calib set

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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2009, 12:57:01 PM »
ma siete compagni di band?   :P

are you bandmates?
Mule, MQ, Stockholm, CS, RY, MM, PK, ANB, CNB, AWP, CWP, PiG90...

too many? ;)

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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2009, 01:02:50 PM »
Sorry about hijacking the thread, but maybe we can join forces as I'm sort of in the same boat:

I’m planning to get my first 7 string guitar wich will probably be the Ibanez RG1527M if it ever comes to Europe (which seems unlikely so far) or the regular RG1527. They’re both basswood body guitars with a 25.5 inch scale.

So, right now I have a Washburn N2 tuned to B standard with a set of Evo's and I like the tone, having coil tap in both pu's, which gives you some nice options for cleans. But I don't play much in other guitars, so I don't actually know if I'm missing something.

So, since it's the “law” to swap pickups in these guitars, if I was going for BKP, what would you recommend? I like to play a lot of stuff, and although I won't be selling the other guitar (my first and only for... 14 years??), the 1527 should become my main guitar, so it won't be strictly a metal machine, although it's the main purpose. Song-wise, my references are Death-Symbolic, Carcass-Heartwork, Pantera, some more progressive stuff like Cynic, I was a fan of Dream Theater until Scenes of a Memory, then I lost interest, Devin Townsend, and instrumental guitar rock, like Satriani, Andy Timmons, Vai, or hard-rock like Van Halen (I'm always amazed with the Balance tone and songs!). These last mean less aggressive to clean tones, although not Fender clean. Tone-wise, from the above, I'll limit myself to Nevermore, Devin Townsend, some Dream Theater, Vai and Van Halen. I don't mean I want to copy those tones, just to play in the same ballpark. The other bands I mentioned, I think the tone works for them, not so much for me.

If it matters, I’m thinking about using 10-59 strings and will mostly use a Line6 X3. I also have a Laney GH50L but I can’t play it much anymore.

So, what would be your recommendations for BKP for this guitar and what can I expect from them compared to my Evo's (considering they’re in a guitar with different woods)?
I was already pointed to MM bridge (including from Tim himself) and CS neck or a CS set. I'm a bit afraid of the MM since it's said to be the less versatile BKP, and I want to have my clean tone options. From what I've red, the Nailbomb seems more versatile, but I'dd like to hear it from you.

If you feel this should be in a different thread, I apologize and I'll open a new one. Just thought I could join in.

I prescribe the cold sweat. Take for 2 hours a day until all syptoms of shitety ibanez pickups tone have gone.

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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2009, 08:28:57 PM »
ma siete compagni di band?   :P

are you bandmates?

no ma, ho visto che il tizio che ha aperto il topic č italiano e volevo sapere se l'aveva provato! XD

non traduco ahahahahahah ;)



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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #57 on: March 19, 2009, 04:21:17 AM »
Sorry about hijacking the thread, but maybe we can join forces as I'm sort of in the same boat:

I’m planning to get my first 7 string guitar wich will probably be the Ibanez RG1527M if it ever comes to Europe (which seems unlikely so far) or the regular RG1527. They’re both basswood body guitars with a 25.5 inch scale.

So, right now I have a Washburn N2 tuned to B standard with a set of Evo's and I like the tone, having coil tap in both pu's, which gives you some nice options for cleans. But I don't play much in other guitars, so I don't actually know if I'm missing something.

So, since it's the “law” to swap pickups in these guitars, if I was going for BKP, what would you recommend? I like to play a lot of stuff, and although I won't be selling the other guitar (my first and only for... 14 years??), the 1527 should become my main guitar, so it won't be strictly a metal machine, although it's the main purpose. Song-wise, my references are Death-Symbolic, Carcass-Heartwork, Pantera, some more progressive stuff like Cynic, I was a fan of Dream Theater until Scenes of a Memory, then I lost interest, Devin Townsend, and instrumental guitar rock, like Satriani, Andy Timmons, Vai, or hard-rock like Van Halen (I'm always amazed with the Balance tone and songs!). These last mean less aggressive to clean tones, although not Fender clean. Tone-wise, from the above, I'll limit myself to Nevermore, Devin Townsend, some Dream Theater, Vai and Van Halen. I don't mean I want to copy those tones, just to play in the same ballpark. The other bands I mentioned, I think the tone works for them, not so much for me.

If it matters, I’m thinking about using 10-59 strings and will mostly use a Line6 X3. I also have a Laney GH50L but I can’t play it much anymore.

So, what would be your recommendations for BKP for this guitar and what can I expect from them compared to my Evo's (considering they’re in a guitar with different woods)?
I was already pointed to MM bridge (including from Tim himself) and CS neck or a CS set. I'm a bit afraid of the MM since it's said to be the less versatile BKP, and I want to have my clean tone options. From what I've red, the Nailbomb seems more versatile, but I'dd like to hear it from you.

If you feel this should be in a different thread, I apologize and I'll open a new one. Just thought I could join in.

I prescribe the cold sweat. Take for 2 hours a day until all syptoms of shiteety ibanez pickups tone have gone.

+1  The CS & MM are almost always a winner in basswood Ibanez 7s.
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Re: Pick-ups for melodic death metal.
« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2009, 01:53:14 AM »
Sorry about hijacking the thread, but maybe we can join forces as I'm sort of in the same boat:

I’m planning to get my first 7 string guitar wich will probably be the Ibanez RG1527M if it ever comes to Europe (which seems unlikely so far) or the regular RG1527. They’re both basswood body guitars with a 25.5 inch scale.

So, right now I have a Washburn N2 tuned to B standard with a set of Evo's and I like the tone, having coil tap in both pu's, which gives you some nice options for cleans. But I don't play much in other guitars, so I don't actually know if I'm missing something.

So, since it's the “law” to swap pickups in these guitars, if I was going for BKP, what would you recommend? I like to play a lot of stuff, and although I won't be selling the other guitar (my first and only for... 14 years??), the 1527 should become my main guitar, so it won't be strictly a metal machine, although it's the main purpose. Song-wise, my references are Death-Symbolic, Carcass-Heartwork, Pantera, some more progressive stuff like Cynic, I was a fan of Dream Theater until Scenes of a Memory, then I lost interest, Devin Townsend, and instrumental guitar rock, like Satriani, Andy Timmons, Vai, or hard-rock like Van Halen (I'm always amazed with the Balance tone and songs!). These last mean less aggressive to clean tones, although not Fender clean. Tone-wise, from the above, I'll limit myself to Nevermore, Devin Townsend, some Dream Theater, Vai and Van Halen. I don't mean I want to copy those tones, just to play in the same ballpark. The other bands I mentioned, I think the tone works for them, not so much for me.

If it matters, I’m thinking about using 10-59 strings and will mostly use a Line6 X3. I also have a Laney GH50L but I can’t play it much anymore.

So, what would be your recommendations for BKP for this guitar and what can I expect from them compared to my Evo's (considering they’re in a guitar with different woods)?
I was already pointed to MM bridge (including from Tim himself) and CS neck or a CS set. I'm a bit afraid of the MM since it's said to be the less versatile BKP, and I want to have my clean tone options. From what I've red, the Nailbomb seems more versatile, but I'dd like to hear it from you.

If you feel this should be in a different thread, I apologize and I'll open a new one. Just thought I could join in.

I prescribe the cold sweat. Take for 2 hours a day until all syptoms of shiteeety ibanez pickups tone have gone.

+1  The CS & MM are almost always a winner in basswood Ibanez 7s.
I've been reading other threads in this forum and some other options came out. What do you think of the NB, ceramic NB and HD for the bridge?