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delroylindo

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Need help choosing pickups
« on: November 28, 2011, 04:25:50 PM »
Firstly, I know basically nothing about pickups, so apologies for that.

I am looking to replace the stock pickups in my Schecter diamond series omen 6 (not a great guitar, but it's what I have). I am also playing through a Blackstar Ht-5s.

Mainly I play Opeth type stuff, so I need a pickup with a good metal sound but also gives nice clean tones. Also occasionally I like to detune to play Mastodon tunes.

Sorry If these questions have been asked a million times but I reall am clueless, so would appreciate any help.

Cheers.

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Re: Need help choosing pickups
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 03:17:15 PM »
Welcome! You will become very educated on pickups from this forum. Things to consider are the body, cap, and neck woods. Pickup hight and pole hight are extremely important and easy to tweak yourself to your taste. Of course your amp plays a large roll in tone (yours is perfect for what you seek).

For Opeth tone the Nailbomb or Black Dog would be my picks. Alnico V Nailbomb set will probably do everything you want here, and handle the very vintage metal tone Mastodon plays. It will give you pretty cleans as well, lots of warmth, great low end, and most importantly sound clear. Go to the BKP mainpage and check out the Nailbomb sound clips, especially the "progressive" and "clean" clips.

Another possibility is the Cold Sweat. It is a ceramic pickup and is more bright than the Nailbomb, but thus holds a very tight low end especially when detuned. Most notably is the beautifull cleans both neck and bridge produce. The Cold Sweat neck is a favorite among BKP users and is often chosen to offset a heavier bridge pickup. It has a beautiful liquidy solo tone.

Lastly is the VHII. I was going to suggest the neck as a possibility to the Cold Sweat bridge, or even with a Nailbomb bridge, but you could probably nail both band's tones with these by cranking a little more overdrive. Both Opeth and Mastodon don't heavily distort their tone anyways, and they definitely have a more classic and open than modern sound. The VHII was aiming for the "brown sound", and has one hell of a great classic rock tone that does metal pretty well. Many of the vintage lower output pickups are prefered by metal players in this forum because of the clarity, openess, and organic vibe, among other things. Even the Aftermath, one of the most "metal" pickups BKP makes is only about 14.7kz; not the highest output pickup by a long shot.

So with that, check out the clips, some here on the forum, or even youtube (good quality vids). There are more suggestions and I'll bet even Mules could work but probably not for your guitar, and for a more metal tone that gets Opeth/Mastodon, breathes fire, and gives you the dynamics you want then you can't go wrong with the Alnico V Nailbomb in a matched set. Good luck and happy tone hunting!
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Re: Need help choosing pickups
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 03:51:33 PM »
Hi there and welcome to the forum.
When i first entered the BKP world i was after a versatile set of pickups that could do Opeth, Metallica, Inflames and everything in between. I was recommended the Ceramic Nailbomb, which is great and fits the job 100%
so i would say either the Alnico Nailbomb or Ceramic Nialbom for your needs.  Opeths playing style is quite loose (when compared to other metal styles) so youd probably be ok with the Alnico version- however if you want more tightness go Ceramic :-)

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Re: Need help choosing pickups
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 07:34:09 PM »
Thanks for the replies. I like to have a warm tone on my neck pickup when im just noodling around, so from your responses it seems that an Alnico V Nailbomb in the bridge and a Ceramic Cold Sweat in the neck might do the job.

Also, should i opt for short 1/4" leg spacing on my guitar (super-strat style shape)?

Thanks again for the help.

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Re: Need help choosing pickups
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 08:07:18 PM »
The neck cold sweat is also Alnico 5 loaded, the only ceramic neck pickup in the BKP range is the Painkiller neck!
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Re: Need help choosing pickups
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 08:39:09 PM »
Nailbombs!
Mules, VHII, Crawler, MM's, IT's, BG50's.

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Re: Need help choosing pickups
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 08:54:25 AM »
Thanks for the replies. I like to have a warm tone on my neck pickup when im just noodling around, so from your responses it seems that an Alnico V Nailbomb in the bridge and a Ceramic Cold Sweat in the neck might do the job.

Also, should i opt for short 1/4" leg spacing on my guitar (super-strat style shape)?

Thanks again for the help.

Alnico Nailbomb bridge and Cold Sweat neck (for the neck there is only an Alnico version) would be a good combination - so would be an A-Bomb bridge with a VHII neck (Alnico, too). And yes, get the short leg and 4 conductor options.

Cheers Stephan

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Re: Need help choosing pickups
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 04:42:14 PM »
Thanks for all the responses, very helpful. One last noob question them i think I have all I need.

I can't find a ruler in my flat and am having trouble online finding out what bridge spacing is required on the omen-6. A lot of forums say standard spacing but others are also saying F-spacing is required. Anybody know what is the correct one to go for?

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Re: Need help choosing pickups
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 05:01:53 PM »
Since the Omen 6 has a ABR style tailpiece I would choose standard spacing (50mm).

Cheers Stephan