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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2011, 09:36:42 PM »
i want clips of the VHII bridge and neck.
cold sweat neck
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that russian guy is $%&#ing crazy i guess

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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2011, 11:25:13 PM »
I've quite a few custom BK sets.  My first two sets were

Emerald Bridge & Mule Neck for a Les Paul - great for Kossoff and Moore sounds
Crawler with 2 P-91's for my PRS EG IV  - This is just a magnificent combination for all the P-90 lovers out there.  You can get the P-90 sweet drive, but have an HB for the extra push.  I have wiring that splits the Crawler with the centre P-91 and also gives me the 2 P-91's in combination.

Since then I have got:

Warpig & MQ set in my Explorer (which is a great combo, especially with the Warpig in parallel mode)
AV Mule with a AIV Stormy Monday neck in a Zemaitis Pearltop clone (everyone loves this - I've had it at a few shows and it gives such a great sound that a few guys have had a lot of people checking out their gear when it was plugged in!)
Riff Raff/AIV Stormy Monday set in another Les Paul (should be a standard offering for anyone who likes Paul Kossoff, Peter Green and late 60's rock)
MQ/Slowhand/mini-Mule set in a custom walnut PRS style guitar (this has so many sounds that it is hard to describe it)
Piledriver/Slowhand set in a Tele (great sound for all those who don't really like the Tele bridge pickup, though the 52 Black Guard Flattop set has a Strat sounding neck pickup)

I probably have other combinations that I just can't think of at the moment!  The great thing about all of them is that they sound good (of course I ran these past Tim before getting them), and the combined sounds are great too. 

Because BK's have more clarity in the tone, there is much more that you can do with the combinations than you get with some other pickups.
So many pickups, so little time

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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2011, 07:49:44 PM »
VH2 bridge,Stormy M (A2) in a Tokai LS150.Bought both for their individual character a few months apart.Thought
they would work well together though, Tim thought so.
Wanted the SM for those old fashioned cleans and the VH2 so i too could sound like the Steve Stevens  demo, well one can but dream.Great pups, great combo that covers lots of ground.
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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2011, 07:12:59 AM »
Miracle Man bridge + Cold Sweat neck in an LTD Viper. Just never liked the MM neck as it was too much like the bridge (I like a bit of contrast between my pups) and I wanted it to be more of a lush chimey thing. CS does that and matches well.

BG50 bridge + Mule neck in a Baja Tele. Just the combo made in heaven for me. Pure Tele rock goodness in the bridge, hint of LP in the neck. I was more surprised when they sounded so good together. Really love the combined sound. Reason for the Mule is that I don't like Tele neck pups. They just do nothing for me.

Had a C-Pig bridge + Mississippipig neck in another Viper. It was just a stoner rock combo from hell. Particularly the MP neck. I think I was the only person who liked that combo however, as it really only did thunder and not a lot else.
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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2011, 03:00:29 PM »
My first attempt at mixing pups was disappointing.
I had bought my first set of Mules somewhere in 2006 and was happy. Then, i'd put Stormy Mondays on my father's LPC and was even more amazed especially by the AII neck unit.
So i replaced the neck AIV Mule in my standard LP for an AII SM, going against one of Tim's advice to avoid mixing AIV and AII...

And the in between position sounded... well, not really great...
it wasn't a bad sound but it had nothing in common with the great middle position of the calibrated vintage sets that's part of BKP's mojo...

This maybe was my only bad experience with BKPs and it was, as often, caused by me avoiding Tim's advices  :lol:
Have: AB-VHII/CR-IT-EM/HD-EM/BD-VHII/Juggs/AMs/Mules/A5 NBs/MthrMlk set
Had: PGs/SMn/PKb/A5 BH 6&7/CS/MiracleMb/RRn/

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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2011, 10:19:45 PM »
OK... i own RIGHT NOW a Nailbomb Set.
the Nailbomb neck has a Meaty. Smooth , Oily but not that Oily. it still retaing the AIRY sound Bkp is known for. it Sings REALLY NICE ALso . and it has Enough tightness. The output is also ENough. it also manages to be slightlsy Crispy. but nothing to worry about like :thinking its Dry. Oh And it has a Good Amount of Sustain.i think i described the tonal characteristics good.
The best part of it is that now im able to get that exact Lead tone you hear on the cd CARCASS - HEARTWORK.
Im so $%&#ing happy with it.
BUT... please keep in mind i havent played those pickups in a Decent amp YET. all that i did was some testing with my brandless cr@ppy borrowed from my neighbour Amp.
so.. when i have a chance to test it in a more or less decent amp, ill tell you the results. ill be prpobably using a Bugera 333 .
theres one Thing i realized so far. the calibration/setting up of the bass frequencies.. are not so easy to do as the other ones.
and if you are not careful it can be a bit muddy. so im still working on it but im sure it wont be a problem.
All other frequencies are top class calibrated7settled up i mean the Screws.
Talking about screws.. im also experimenting with hexa screws like the ones in the warpig. i got 12 to experiment with .
i already replaced the 6 ones in the bridge pickup and i think the sound gets less Oily and slightly less meaty and gets slightly Nasal and more fluid. with the regular screws it has more fatness or Oil to it with some Fluidy and Oily sustain to it.
with the hexa screws it s a bit less not so full sound and a bit nasal.
thats all i can think of as for now.

The bridge one ill review later.
The guitar is a Fender AMerican Standard with possibly maple or alder body . can also be basswood. but the body is pretty HEAVY. i m also not sure if its mahogany. i doubt.
it has grapthtech saddles and nut.
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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2011, 12:26:41 PM »
Here's my current favorite mis-matched combo in a semi-storied guitar:

C-Bomb Bridge (Green), PK Neck (Pink) in an Ibanez JEM77FP (early 90's model). This is a phenomenal combination in this guitar. I wanted to improve on the tone of the instrument and not stray too far away from the Vai-like sound I could pull out of that instrument. I started with the C-Bomb bridge. It just roars and cries from this alder guitar. I've tried it on multiple amps in guitar shops and it has a massive, dark and focused sound to it without tremendous compression. The PK neck compliments the C-Bomb perfectly. I wanted a powerful, fat, and ceramic compressed neck sound for very aggressive leads. The EVOs were just flat and you really had to dig into the instrument to get them to sing plus they were very muddy. The C-Bomb/PK combo makes notes just fly off the fretboard. If I roll the volume back slightly they clean up beautifully (Die To Live tone). That's another point: this combo is very controllable. If I want softer, more open and fluid like clean tone from the neck all I do is roll the tone nob back slightly, about 7/10, and lower the amp master volume on the clean setting. The spikey, ice-pick shrill that sometimes comes out of the PK neck are non existant and on clean it warms the sound up making it less glassy but still clear. I recommend this combo for any super-strat. It nails the modern Vai tone but has more power and plenty of its own character, as well as being metal as $%&#. In fact it's a better modern shred/metal combo than anything but it does have refined dynamics and is capable of a lot of rock/metal tones in a variety of tunings. This combo has way more balls and snarl than the EVOs or Original PAFs had.

This axe used to be owned by Steve Vai as a soundcheck instrument before it wound up hanging in the window of a music store not far from his parents house, collecting dust. I stole it (off of ebay) and the previous owner provided some good paperwork to back up the story. When I got it appraised (for kicks) the G-Center manager was horrified I was going to change the stock pickups and ruin the original sodering. Well, the store owner from NY said it was a really a players instrument, showed road wear, and definitely was begging to be played. I couldn't agree more. The recent upgrade to BKPs gave new life into this instrument, and I'd love to hear that G-Center Manager's opinion now on whether or not it was a good move to "devalue" this collectable. You don't tune up a classic to not drive it. This tune up was like adding a brand new twin turbo engine, straight piped. I can't recommend this combo enough!
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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2011, 12:39:34 PM »
I made an error mentioning it was an ALDER guitar. The 77FPs were all Basswood. The C-Bomb really compliments the wood well, and the PK neck never really gets too bright and dry sounding unless you push the highs too much on your amp, or add too much presence. I have barely messed with the poles on the pickups so as they are from BKP they sound great in a basswood, flat-top, maple neck, rosewood fb super-strat. The bright green and pink pickups also make the tone that much better.

NOTE: I never changed the middle single coil. It does contradict the BKPs a little (guess what it sounds thin and flat). If anyone has a single coil, middle position pickup opinion, sitting between the C-Bomb and PK neck, 5 way selector switch, I'd love to hear it.
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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2011, 06:01:41 PM »
I might try a Black Dog bridge with Stormy Monday neck pickup in the near future.

Anyone else considering getting into BD/SM? Send me a private message, secrecy assured.

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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2011, 06:41:11 PM »
I might try a Black Dog bridge with Stormy Monday neck pickup in the near future.

Anyone else considering getting into BD/SM? Send me a private message, secrecy assured.

I actually had that combo in an Edwards Flying V, which......

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You only made that post for the comedy value of BD/SM, didn't you?
BKPs I've Got:  RR, BKP-91, ITs, VHII, CS set, Emeralds
BKPs I Had:  RY+Abraxas, Crawlers, BD+SM

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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2011, 06:46:58 PM »
The first couple of BKP "sets" I had were mix and match.  Now I'm leaning more towards calibrated sets, Tim knows his onions.

But not being a fan of bright neck pickups, I probably still wouldn't buy, say, a Riff Raff set - I'd substitute a Mule or Stormy Monday neck pickup in that case.
BKPs I've Got:  RR, BKP-91, ITs, VHII, CS set, Emeralds
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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2011, 08:20:24 PM »
You only made that post for the comedy value of BD/SM, didn't you?

it's good that you're comfortable discussing this

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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2011, 11:09:54 PM »
You only made that post for the comedy value of BD/SM, didn't you?

it's good that you're comfortable discussing this

At my age, it's all just hypothetical.
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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2011, 09:07:10 AM »
Has anyone tried a Cold Sweat bridge with a Riff Raff neck?

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Re: Your mis-matched pickup combos and what you love/hate about them.
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2011, 11:48:58 AM »
Well I don't know about mismatched, but I had a Nailbomb put in the Bridge of my Ibanez S series, a Cold Sweat in the neck, and a trilogy suite in the middle. The guitar has a great sound! Although I never really use the trilogy suite.