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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #225 on: November 24, 2011, 08:48:46 AM »
Agreed on Michael Buble lol. I ordered a limited edition Flaming Lips box set from the states not so long back and they sent me a Michael Buble box set by mistake. Talk about gutted. I got a customs charge on it too! grr

Wow. Just... Wow... Talk about getting a shite sandwich when you've ordered steak with lobster :S


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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #226 on: November 24, 2011, 08:56:23 AM »
That said:

Dimebag.

Him, as well as Pantera have always bored me, except for the song "Floods".
This sort of knuckle-draggin', whisky-swillin', good ol' boy (but still oh-so macho toughguy) pentatonic jock metal just doesn't resonate with me. For a while I figured I felt this way because I was so tired of wearing "Walk" and "Cowboys From Hell" in bars all the $%&#ing time, but on closer inspection I had to accept that the music just doesn't move me in any way, plus Dime wasn't really that impressive in terms of solos.

However, I can see why they've gotten as big as they have. It's easily accessible metal for blokes who aren't die-hard into metal, and that's a laaarge customer base to tap into. I'm fully aware that the people who like this sort of stuff will think my favorite bands' music is all a load of arty-farty, pretentious wank with no point or melody to it. So yeah...

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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #227 on: November 24, 2011, 06:48:49 PM »
^ if anything, a lot of pantera is verging on "too heavy" for me, so bear with me :lol:

But I like pantera, and i think dime is (was :( ) an awesome player. this is also teh second time I've seen someone complain about someone only playing pentatonic stuff (the other time it wasn't dime, can't remember who, zakk maybe?), and it really begs teh question... have you ever actually tried to play any dime stuff? there's a lot more stuff than pentatonic in there (with zakk, too).

Plus I would argue that playing simple scales isn't necessarily a bad thing if you're a kickass player who makes it sound good. Is a dish with 20 different ingredients which tastes like cr@p better than one with 3 which tastes good? Sometimes it takes a good chef to make something simple taste awesome (and to have the confidence to attempt it), same thing with music. and just because you choose to play a simple scale doesn't mean it's the only one you know.

ugh the quote system's not working, so bear with me

"My classical music favourites are Bartok, Cage, Penderecki, Satie and Arvo Part. Much more satisfying to the soul than Paganini."

I'm not a gigantic fan of paganini either, but he was an awesome player. I tend to like stuff like beethoven, mozart and vivaldi- baroque, classical and romantic. Not to say i don't like more modern classical, too, but my favourites are those genres of classical.

"No.  I'm not being dishonest.  It is a case of not "getting" someone's music.

I could sit here for hours and list music I don't like.  N-Dubz.  Rihanna.  The Black Eyed Peas.  Michael $%&#ing Buble.

But that's not the point of the discussion.  It's not as simple as just not liking it.

To use an example I've already mentioned - The Mahavishnu Orchestra.  John McLaughlin is an amazing musician, I want to appreciate the music, but no matter how many times I listen to it, it doesn't move me.  I just don't get it."

agreed. Yeah, ok, maybe at its simplest there's only "music i like" and "music i don't like", but dig even a little deeper and there's music which you think you should like because it's worthy but you don't, and music which just plain has no artistic merit at all.

Now, maybe you feel that way about vai and co, and that's alright, but when there are people like britney spears and cheryl cole making records, I'm not sure even his most ardent detractor could really honestly put steve vai in that same category.

fwiw, some rihanna stuff is actually alright (IMO) :oops:
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #228 on: November 24, 2011, 09:26:38 PM »
Oi. Don't be knocking Cheryl matey. That really is fighting talk. ;)

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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #229 on: November 25, 2011, 08:34:15 AM »
I can easily imagine both him and Zakk are not always pentatonic. Regular minor scales are just as common for those lads.

It's just that the note choices don't really seem interesting to me. An example of interesting note choices within metal would be my absolute favorite: Leon Macey of Mithras.

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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #230 on: November 25, 2011, 10:42:00 AM »
I f&&&ing hate the c*%^ing beatles.

Bunch of talentless sh!ts who wrote irritating, trite tripe and who should all have been shot at birth, or at least languished in obscurity only to rot in a pit of alcoholism and despair.

As much as I try, none of my words can really convey the absolute hatred I have for those c&&&s.

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« Reply #231 on: November 25, 2011, 12:01:58 PM »
:lol: you really do need some help Roo! :lol:
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #232 on: November 25, 2011, 07:35:56 PM »
Just for roo



Oi. Don't be knocking Cheryl matey. That really is fighting talk. ;)

:lol:

I can easily imagine both him and Zakk are not always pentatonic. Regular minor scales are just as common for those lads.

It's just that the note choices don't really seem interesting to me. An example of interesting note choices within metal would be my absolute favorite: Leon Macey of Mithras.

fair enough

No idea who that is, by the way :lol:

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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #233 on: November 26, 2011, 12:02:47 AM »

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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #234 on: November 26, 2011, 06:49:09 AM »
Two Telecasters, two Beatles, and two moustaches!

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« Reply #235 on: November 26, 2011, 12:55:30 PM »
Two Telecasters, two Beatles, and two moustaches!

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+1 without the moustaches  8)
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #236 on: November 26, 2011, 07:33:07 PM »
Two Telecasters, two Beatles, and two moustaches!

My Saturday has started in a most marvellous fashion!

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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #237 on: November 27, 2011, 06:22:54 AM »
Petrucci. I guess I just don't get Dream Theater in general.

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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #238 on: November 27, 2011, 07:10:02 PM »
I used to like Jeff Beck back in the Wired and Blow by Blow days but I bought a couple of his recent-ish releases and they bored me to tears. Impossible to tell the guitar from the keyboard on a lot of it. I've seen some recent live stuff of his and it seems that he likes to spend a lot of time making a particularly irritating noise with his whammy bar. Jeff - it's not a GOOD noise, it's horrible.

Alan Holdsworth. I own one album 'The 16 Men of Tain' and his playing does seem to have a strange melancholy to it that I like but all his compositions seem to follow the same formula - play some chords that no-one has ever heard before with a bit of chorus and that involve having your index finger on the first fret and your pinky on the 16th fret, keep this up for a minute or so and then go widdle, widdle, widdle until the fadeout.

Van Halen - never listened to him much because I can't stand the songs, absolutely terrible.

Clapton. I sometimes come across some of his older stuff that is very good but it seems that today he is trying his best to get the worst tones imaginable from a Strat.

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