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ericsabbath

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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2012, 05:28:55 PM »
Actually, what are your opinions on a Tremonti style Covered neck and open coil bridge except with a gold cover?
It'll be on a fireburst les Paul studio (they are much prettier than pictures would suggest :) )

oh the hard choices a man has to make in life...  :D



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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2012, 05:31:18 PM »
oh, almost forgot my "reverse Tremonti" Greco Les Paul

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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #47 on: April 05, 2012, 05:48:06 PM »
Dude! Thanks for the pics. Are those your guitars? They're awesome!
This is by far the most helpful forum I've ever used!

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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #48 on: April 05, 2012, 06:05:05 PM »
Dude! Thanks for the pics. Are those your guitars? They're awesome!
This is by far the most helpful forum I've ever used!

yeah, my '73 Custom and my recently acquired '78 Greco EG900

I used to be very unflexible when it comes to pickup color combinations
I only liked dual open black or regular matched covers
recently I've been loving almost any usual color mismatched combos
black + cream, black + white, zebra + white, covered + uncovered
I think mismatching gives them quite a personal charm

before finding my black beauty, I spent a year dating an early 70's yellow cream les paul custom on ebay (I think it was an old refinish and didn't have a pickguard), and it that had an open black and an open alpine white humbucker
that was one unique looking guitar (being a common les paul custom) and that totally changed my mind on how a looked at mismatched looking sets
I really desired that thing, but couldn't afford it at the time... it was sold quite cheap (around US$1800) almost a year later and the buyer was some store and that son of a bitch put it back on ebay for like US$4500 :evil:
I probably have a picture somewhere

edit:
here it is
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itamar101

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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #49 on: April 05, 2012, 09:01:37 PM »
Thats sweet. I love cream les pauls. I actually love anything cream :)
I actually currently have a chrome neck pickup (stock) and a  black Gibson P94T Hum-Sized P90 in the bridge so im used to mismatched colours.
I think I'm gonna go for a gold covered neck and an open-coil cream bridge. I might get a zebra bridge instead though.
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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #50 on: April 05, 2012, 09:48:39 PM »
Oh!!!! Wait!!! I forgot to mention that my gibson has 300K Linear Volumes and 500k Non-Linear Tones.
Would the Holy Diver still work for me or would I seriously lack in treble frequencies?
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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #51 on: April 05, 2012, 10:13:22 PM »
Oh!!!! Wait!!! I forgot to mention that my gibson has 300K Linear Volumes and 500k Non-Linear Tones.
Would the Holy Diver still work for me or would I seriously lack in treble frequencies?

Oops, accidental double post and i don't know how to delete it. Anyway, the question still remains.
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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2012, 05:09:50 AM »
you need 500k or 550k audio pots
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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2012, 09:17:41 AM »
What do you mean? In order to actually install the pickups or just for them to bring out enough treble frequencies to sound good?

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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2012, 06:14:25 PM »
I guess they'll work with 300k pots but won't sound as good as 500k units. I think CanadianMetalhead is planning on using 1 meg pots for his new Holydiver but I may be wrong in that.
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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2012, 06:27:38 PM »
Nah, I'm definately not using 1 meg. I'm not sure whether I even can or want to change to 500k. My Gibson has all its component connected on a PCB and I'm not sure how easy it'll be to swap then because I that, although if I do I may as well put in a push-pull for to enable coil taps.
Would it work if I only changed the bridge to 500k and left the neck at 300k?
Would the holy diver still sound good and not to dark if I kept the 300k pots? How much would that decrease the brightness and the treble frequencies of the holy diver?
Would it be a better idea to just get the Rebel Yell?

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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2012, 06:34:04 PM »
It's not just brightness that you get with a 500k (or 550k) pot. It's clarity!!! I have a holydiver and I highly recommend the BKP 550k pot.

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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2012, 08:23:32 PM »
Hmm. I see.
How easy would it be to install into a Gibson PCB sorta thing.
To see what I mean go to the Tech sub-forum, I've got a thread their called "lots and lots and lots of hum!!! Help!!!", there's a pic of the PCB board there.

And again, is it worth it or would I be better of getting a rebel yell?
If I did replace the post would if makes sense to also replace the tone pots (which are already 500k) or would I be find saving my money?

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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2012, 11:30:47 PM »
Look, to put it simply, It would be kind of silly to buy top quality (and expensive, as you have already mentioned) BKPs and then have cr@ppy pots in your guitar. If you're really serious about upgrading your tone, invest money into new pickups AND all new top quality pots&caps. Remember, the chain is only as strong as its weakest link.
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Re: Which BKP is closest to...
« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2012, 12:03:56 AM »
Yeah, i think ill do that. But I'd still really like to know whether it's possible to swap the pots from a PCB without taking it all apart.
Also, if i were to upgrade the tone pots would it use the same types of pots as the volume?
Also, In my gibson should i get long shaft or standard shaft pots?

Lastly, which pots do you recommend? A push-pull for coil tapping would be nice would be nice but TBH i'll get a better sound without coil tapping then i don't need it. It'd still be nice if you good recommend me the best push-pull and the best "normal" pots.

Oh, also, will i need new capacitors? What exactly do they do?

Sorry for the long post, ill organise the questions:
1) Is it possible to swap the pots from a PCB without taking it all apart?
2) If i were to upgrade the tone pots would it use the same types of pots as the volume
3) In my gibson should i get long shaft or short shaft pots?
4) Which pots do you recommend? A push-pull would be nice but not vital.
5) Do I need new capacitors too? What do they do?