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Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« on: September 21, 2013, 10:47:37 PM »
i enjoy the nailbomb that i have in my alder/maple/rosewood strat, but not as much as i was expecting. sounds like it would be a bit better in an LP or something. anyway. i didnt look much at the p90s but holy cr@p the clips for the stockholm sound exactly what i'm looking for. the nailbomb doesnt quite have the bottom end i was expecting. i probably just didnt pair the right guitar with the right pickup. but i think this could be the one...

 i couldnt find a single thing on youtube and only a couple threads on here. just curious what people think.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2013, 12:08:09 AM »
Most P90's do very well in strats. I think the Stockholm's voicing will make your strat sound big and punchy.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2013, 12:30:23 AM »
Most P90's do very well in strats. I think the Stockholm's voicing will make your strat sound big and punchy.
Yeah, that should hold totally true.

P90s are wonderful things. Their character lets them be placed in just about anything. Put em in a strat, tele or the likes and the SC qualitys get enhanded, put em in a LP and you got the extra highs and lows work wonders with the middy LPs.
Really they work in everything. In different ways and still all so great.

Especially the more modern p90s should sit wonderfully with strats for metal styles and I can absolutly see the SH kill in one. Big and punchy as Telerocker said while having that lovely SC string definition and a great cutting attack. Add to that the P90 growl in the mids. Really a lot of weight and force behind that low end, but with a definition you can not quite find in HBs.

Maybe you can elaborate on what about the NBs bottom end is not to your liking.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2013, 02:16:33 AM »
the nailbomb is just too bright for the guitar its in. i mean, brightness is fine but its a bit more than i'd like. and from what i hear from the clips for the stockholm its just what i want. definitely looking for a heavy punch for stuff like Muse's harder jams and such. not necessarily metal but something thats going to fit it well. i've never played a p90 before and i've been playing for 10 years. so i'm surprised how much i like the idea of this pickup. i definitely want a big sound but not brutal or anything. so i think this may be the best choice. i'm also sort of debating if i should try them in my les paul too. i've pretty much decided on doin rebel yells in the LP but this stockholm blew me away. not sure yet... but now i'm really excited.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2013, 02:35:27 AM »
the nailbomb is just too bright for the guitar its in. i mean, brightness is fine but its a bit more than i'd like. and from what i hear from the clips for the stockholm its just what i want. definitely looking for a heavy punch for stuff like Muse's harder jams and such. not necessarily metal but something thats going to fit it well. i've never played a p90 before and i've been playing for 10 years. so i'm surprised how much i like the idea of this pickup. i definitely want a big sound but not brutal or anything. so i think this may be the best choice. i'm also sort of debating if i should try them in my les paul too. i've pretty much decided on doin rebel yells in the LP but this stockholm blew me away. not sure yet... but now i'm really excited.
P90s deffo are amazing. Such a shame they are so overlooked.
Just the way you can take them from absolute screaming to sweet singing is so great.

If you are not looking for metal the Stockholm is still pretty darn amazing. Love playing Blink 182 with it too. Distinct modern rock voice with a great growl, power (output, hotness and just power you feel) and clarity. Plus that amazing cut.
Depeding on how dark you want it the Supermassive is still in the running too. Like the SH but less hot and less bass.

I can unfortunentally not compare the brightness to the NB, you might just have to ask the BKP guys about that directly.

As I said I feel like you can put P90s in both strats and LPs, but different qualitys will end up in focus. In a strat it will beef things up and the base SC character will stick out a little more, while in a LP you get a very fat (yet clear) and generally more balanced sound. P90s do a wonderful job of cutting through big chunks of mahagony but still donīt tend to be too shrill in Maple by default.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2013, 02:47:04 AM »
I think Nailbombs suit heavier mahogany Gibsons like Les Pauls, Explorers, and maybe Flying Vs pretty well.  They would also work well in other similarly dark guitars like a lot of the ESPs. Interestingly though some - I think felineguitars here - have said that it needs a bright guitar.  It might be that your guitar is middy, and that tends toward mid-overload with this pickup, which accentuates it aggressive, hairy character.  I'm assuming this is the alnico version - by all accounts this is less so with the ceramic.  I have to say though that the clip of you playing punk stuff with the A-Bomb is pretty sweet, but then again punk and hardcore is pretty much the A-Bomb's domain.

That said the Rebel Yell bridge is closely related to the A-bomb but with less mids, especially the low-mids, and I think a more symmetrical winding, which makes it smoother.  Apparently the latter is a big part of its 'aggressive' sound, which is its big selling point but maybe not what you really wanted.  The RY seems to be sweeter.  But you might want to try it in your LP as even if you don't like it there it will give you a benchmark from which you can easily tell whether the differences between it and the RY on the clips at BKP will be going in the direction you want.  In terms of general character though the A-bomb is more Sepultura and the RY more Ratt.

I don't know much about P90s except that even the stock Gibson ones sound sweet in an SG, much better than the 490/498 sets that the Standards come with these days.

I should add that I definitely have no plans to get rid of my A-Bomb. That thing RIPS for hardcore and punk. In fact I want to put it another SG, but just not paired with the Cold Sweat neck.  Either by itself or with a Nailbomb neck.  If you think it sounded okay playing that Green Day stuff try playing some Exploited or Poison Idea with it!  It is PERFECT for that sound, at least in an SG.  That said I think of it as a bit of a one-trick pony in an SG, not great at playing less aggressive, raw sounding styles, but what a trick!
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 12:08:23 PM »
I can only really agree with what's been said here. I tried an A-Bomb too and found that the upper mids were dominating, making it extremely aggressive, edgy and hairy sounding. No doubt putting it in a middy guitar didn't help but I came to the same conclusion that it needed to be in a guitar with more mahogany like a Les Paul.

P90 pickups are very rarely talked about that's for sure. I've been a member of this forum for a while now and I can only recall a handful of threads about P90 pups. This is reflected in Kiichi's excellent review thread that features virtually no P90 reviews. I would urge anyone who has had experience of any of the P90 pickups to please submit a detailed review. 
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 12:59:56 PM »
i did think about the supermassive pickup as well, but i think i'd rather stick with the stockholm incase somewhere down the line i want to throw it into another guitar without having to route it. plus it says the stockholm has some more output which is a plus for me.

and about the rebel yells, those would be going in a very different guitar anyway. (LP) and everyone including the bkp staff say its what i'm looking for. so i'll trust them all and give it a shot. i went for the nailbomb on a whim when no one suggested it for what i was looking for.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2013, 01:15:40 PM »
P90 pickups are very rarely talked about that's for sure. I've been a member of this forum for a while now and I can only recall a handful of threads about P90 pups. This is reflected in Kiichi's excellent review thread that features virtually no P90 reviews. I would urge anyone who has had experience of any of the P90 pickups to please submit a detailed review.

It's also short of Telecaster pickup reviews. The only single coils that are well-represented are the Strat ones, probably because a lot of people have them in Super Strat guitars by manufacturers other than Fender, whereas Telecaster pickups are very much a Fender thing (and a specific guitar at that) and P90s are very much a Gibson thing (most often SGs).
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2013, 12:13:21 AM »
yeah when i was younger i always steered away from the p90 gibsons. not sure why. never really knew what they were even capable of.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2013, 12:41:29 AM »
yeah when i was younger i always steered away from the p90 gibsons. not sure why. never really knew what they were even capable of.

You should try an SG some day, great guitar, although that said it might take you a while to get used to the neck, which has a 12" radius.  I find Strats interesting but I am put off by the rounder fretboard, although there is one signature model that apparently has a 12" radius like a Gibson.  I like the thinner profile necks like the C shape and '60s profile necks, but it's what you get used to.  A lot of the more recent SGs (especially the cheaper ones like the Faded) have '50s style necks which feel more 'Fender' to me.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2013, 12:48:54 AM »
I think you should give the sinner some thought too mate.

I wouldnt go for the rebel yell if you didnt like the nailbomb its like its less angry relative with less bottom end too. I always thought the nailbomb in a thin 'proper strat' probably wouldnt work for the heavy bottom end.....ill trust your judgement.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2013, 12:51:03 AM »
The Sinner is brutal sounding.

The only reason I found out about that Strat with the 12" radius neck was because I had GAS for something to put a Sinner set into ...
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2013, 12:53:02 AM »
The Sinner is brutal sounding.

The only reason I found out about that Strat with the 12" radius neck was because I had GAS for something to put a Sinner set into ...

Much prefer them to the trilogy suite in general never heard the middle position one much though but meh....the neck is very different to any thing ive heard by a long way

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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2013, 12:57:14 AM »
Stock wound or RWRP?  I think I would definitely go stock.  In for a penny, in for a pound I believe is the relevant British saying here ...
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