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Author Topic: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)  (Read 8775 times)

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Hi guys, that's my first post here so i would like your wisdom on those great BK!!

I'm playing modern metal tuned to C#
Guitar is Gibson LP '08 (on the Mid to Bright side)
Pickups are bridge Suhr Aldrich & neck the gibson's stock
Amps are Diezel vh4 & Diezel Herbert profiles through Kemper.
Mid gain 6/10 with a pure booster in front.

Although i kind like the way aldrich works on pulm mutes i hate the whole bright sound it produces paired with my LP.
It sounds kind too compressed and shrill too!

I would like a Bridge pickup with tight bottom end, open sound in the mids just enough to cut in the mix and some resonable roll off in the highs to tame the bright LP.

Sound guide: Tool, Alice in Chains, Alter Bridge, Gojira, Mastodon, Killswitch Engage

I liked in that order: Black Dog, A-bomb, Painkiller
Tim suggested: Black Dog or Emerald!

There you go guys!!  :smiley:
« Last Edit: October 09, 2017, 07:30:05 AM by orest009 »

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2017, 02:24:10 PM »
Obvious holy diver.
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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 07:49:15 PM »
My suggestion would be Miracle Man, but it depends how aggressive you want to go
Dean Cadillac - Emerald (b), Cold Sweat (n),
Mayones Flame CS2000 - Miracle Man (b), Sinner (m), Aftermath (n)
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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2017, 09:24:53 PM »
Most of the bands you mentioned play(ed) JB style pickups... Bill from mastodon even used HD on the previous record I think. Jerry Cantrell played JBs for a long time (he switched to MC afwayu a couple years ago). A lot of people say Adam Jones also uses JBs, but I don't really believe that. Pretty sure Joe from gojira was using JB at some point...

I think HD is what you want... It should sound sweeter than your suhr pickup.
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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2017, 06:48:23 AM »
Obvious holy diver.

I though that too cause it seems that BD was just 9.4 kΩ!!
Will HD be the most modern sound of all our choises from BK?
Do you think that a Juggernaut could get along with a Bright LP?
« Last Edit: October 06, 2017, 07:04:32 AM by orest009 »

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2017, 06:59:27 AM »
My suggestion would be Miracle Man, but it depends how aggressive you want to go
Hey Lucas, being reading some of your posts those days in forum!
Well, what would be perfect is to have the most modern BK without loosing clarity closer to a high roll of character.
(My LP is on the Mid to Bright side)

MM seems to complete the puzzle due to my LP's characteristics,
but isn't it too compressed than the HD?

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2017, 01:37:57 PM »
I'm not sure juggernaut is quite what you want. It super low mid heavy and has this disctinct voicing.

Black dog is cool (not much heat though, but maybe you don't want more heat?).

HD should be similar to DA in your LP, but a little fatter and more rounded in high end.

Tim knows the most about his pickups, so I'd definetely consider his suggestions.
Aftermath (bridge), alnico Black hawk (set), holydiver (set)

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2017, 05:32:36 PM »
I'm not sure juggernaut is quite what you want. It super low mid heavy and has this disctinct voicing.

Black dog is cool (not much heat though, but maybe you don't want more heat?).

HD should be similar to DA in your LP, but a little fatter and more rounded in high end.

Tim knows the most about his pickups, so I'd definetely consider his suggestions.
Tim's suggestion was Black Dog, i'm closer to HD and i'm also thinking about Warpig or Painkiller just to make this LP a modern metal monster!!
What's your opinion about Warpig and Painkiller?

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2017, 10:30:27 PM »
With lower tuning I would go with ceramic pickup eg Miracle Man. Don`t get me wrong, MM is not super modern flame throwing ultra metal pickup. Yes, it`s metal pickup but with little classic vibe as well.
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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2017, 10:48:48 PM »
holy diver should work perfectly
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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2017, 10:17:49 AM »
Only thing is that Holydiver is not really aggressive to my ears it lacks that grit. It does have beautiful lead tone but rhythm wise its quite mellow I suppose
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Warmoth Custom Tele - Miracle Man set

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2017, 03:05:13 PM »
Go for the recommended Black Dog, it's like a lower gain Holydiver but more open and grindy. Will work better for the Les Paul and low tuning. Holydivers are better in super strats.
The lower output will work, listen to the black dog modern metal clip, its the best one.

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2017, 03:22:25 PM »
Go for the recommended Black Dog, it's like a lower gain Holydiver but more open and grindy. Will work better for the Les Paul and low tuning. Holydivers are better in super strats.
The lower output will work, listen to the black dog modern metal clip, its the best one.
I totally agree with you, BD modern metal clip is the best one..
I wish it was in Drop C# tuning though  :laugh:

Apart from BD, what's your opinion about the Painkiller and Warpig?

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2017, 03:28:02 PM »
With lower tuning I would go with ceramic pickup eg Miracle Man. Don`t get me wrong, MM is not super modern flame throwing ultra metal pickup. Yes, it`s metal pickup but with little classic vibe as well.
Yeah, i guess ceramic is the most suitable solution for this situation!
MM will be the lowest risk option i guess but everyone seems to think that's like my Suhr Aldrich in some way.
What's your opinion for PK and Warpig in a Drop C# LP??

Have a nice Weekend BTW!

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 tuned C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2017, 03:32:41 PM »
holy diver should work perfectly
Hi Eric!!
I would probably take HD if i decide to go to the BD suggestion!!
It sounds more modern to me, not sure how it would handle palm mutes on a Drop C# LP though!  :undecided:

What's your opinon for the PK and Warpig for my use?

Have a nice weekend!!
« Last Edit: October 07, 2017, 03:42:20 PM by orest009 »