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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2017, 07:39:48 PM »
They are completely different. Miracle man is supposed to be an EMG alternative because it's a bit compressed, has balls and output.

Black hawk is definitely closer to an active. It's "even sounding" because of the blades and has lots of output, low end is pretty fast and is quite sharp.
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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2017, 08:24:18 PM »
They are completely different. Miracle man is supposed to be an EMG alternative because it's a bit compressed, has balls and output.

Black hawk is definitely closer to an active. It's "even sounding" because of the blades and has lots of output, low end is pretty fast and is quite sharp.

Am i crazy for thinking ordering a Juggernaut set??  :evil:

Being listening to the clips and after all this search i finally understood that:
Aftermath seems sterile for me..
Black hawk/Impulse is what it is, love them but it doesn't gives me the opportunity to adjust screws height (which i love & always do)
Painkiller would be a little too much bright in an already bright LP..
Holy Diver is almost there!!! (especially if you use a Tubescreamer in front of the amp)
Miracle Man would probably get lost in the mix due to the beefy strings gauge and the low tuning C#..
Cold sweat i would love to go this way if it was a little more modern in voicing..
Nailbomb doesn't like low tunings and beefy strings..
Ragnarok is still a mystery in a LP..

Haha so???
Juggernaut in a Gibson LP!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuCNEite9gg

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2017, 12:48:56 AM »
If you live in the UK the Ragnarok is probably your best bet, because there is a returns policy within a certain time period.

Not sure on the Juggernaut.

I use an A-Bomb in C standard and find it to be fine.  In fact it is my go-to guitar.  The guitar itself is pretty dark though.  Strings are 11-56

I don't have any high quality recordings of the guitar at the moment, this is a video from last Thursday, hopefully you can pick out the tone.  It starts off with a Ghost Echo reverb on, then I switch that off, and the very last part I have an RV-5, a chorus, and a heap of delays and flanger on so don't worry about that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3iAw8X1uQ0

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WAR PIGS
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COLD SWEATS
MIRACLE MAN
TRUE GRIT

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2017, 12:43:27 PM »
If you live in the UK the Ragnarok is probably your best bet, because there is a returns policy within a certain time period.

Not sure on the Juggernaut.

I use an A-Bomb in C standard and find it to be fine.  In fact it is my go-to guitar.  The guitar itself is pretty dark though.  Strings are 11-56

I don't have any high quality recordings of the guitar at the moment, this is a video from last Thursday, hopefully you can pick out the tone.  It starts off with a Ghost Echo reverb on, then I switch that off, and the very last part I have an RV-5, a chorus, and a heap of delays and flanger on so don't worry about that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3iAw8X1uQ0

Goodmorning Dave!!
Thanks for the video, it was a joy to see you perform, i loved the tone as well!!
Ben from BK told me that Ragnarok is too heavy saturated, Jugger just seems a little more versatile at the moment!!
Wish we had some more feedback from the forum about Ragnarok!

Have a nice weekend!!

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2017, 02:48:58 PM »
Cheers, I'm glad you liked it.

The amp is a Peavey 6534+ with the standard Ruby EL34BHT tubes (actually this is a replacement set, but it came with a set of those) and a mixture of Tung Sol, Ruby, and Sovtek tubes in the preamp (Ruby AC5 HG on the lead channel, Sovtek LPS for the PI, and the rest Tung Sol).  The screen resistors have also been changed and all of the solder in the amp was replaced, and the amp biased a little hotter than stock. Really though  besides the basic amp design most of it is the pickups, the EQ settings, and a couple of nice pedals like the Ghost Echo.  Personally I think the picks have an impact on the tone, as does the way a person plays. You could use the same gear and settings and sound different. The picks I use are just 1.14 Dunlop Max Grips, nothing special but a fairly stiff pick.  I don't think changing the tubes made a massive difference, although I did have a Tung Sol in V2 for a short while and I did notice that was too strident for me, and I swapped it with a Ruby and moved the Tung Sol to V3 (effects loop).

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2017, 10:41:14 AM »
Not sure on the Juggernaut.

Dave, do you think that Ragnarok will be a better fit for me?
Ben suggestion was Aftermath but i was afraid due to its "dry & sterile" nature!

Maybe capac can help me as well, he has an aftermath in his LP if i'm right...

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #51 on: November 01, 2017, 01:44:06 PM »
I haven't heard enough of the Ragnarok but to me they sound like they fit in the middle between the Miracle Man and the Painkiller.

I don't like the Aftermaths much either.

Here's a couple of videos of the Ragnarok.

Not in a Les Paul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ree6yp8qH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B___tTa__qw
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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2017, 05:11:29 PM »
Excellent tone here. Love the vocals on this too.. a lot.

If you live in the UK the Ragnarok is probably your best bet, because there is a returns policy within a certain time period.

Not sure on the Juggernaut.

I use an A-Bomb in C standard and find it to be fine.  In fact it is my go-to guitar.  The guitar itself is pretty dark though.  Strings are 11-56

I don't have any high quality recordings of the guitar at the moment, this is a video from last Thursday, hopefully you can pick out the tone.  It starts off with a Ghost Echo reverb on, then I switch that off, and the very last part I have an RV-5, a chorus, and a heap of delays and flanger on so don't worry about that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3iAw8X1uQ0

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2017, 08:59:25 AM »
Cheers for the nice comments on our video.

You can download the demo free from our Bandcamp these days.  Tracks 1 & 3 are all alnico bridge Nailbomb.  Track 2 is alnico bridge Warpig for the first half, and then alnico bridge Nailbomb for the second half, with the neck Nailbomb on the lead part. Track 4 is all bridge Warpig.
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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2017, 03:25:24 AM »
I have a 2002 Gibson L.P. standard with an A-Bomb in the  bridge.  Drop C# tuning medium top heavy bottom. Strings.  Sounds awesome through my ReVv Generator 120.  Tight and ballsy with lots of snarl.

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #55 on: November 27, 2017, 07:37:54 AM »
I have a 2002 Gibson L.P. standard with an A-Bomb in the  bridge.  Drop C# tuning medium top heavy bottom. Strings.  Sounds awesome through my ReVv Generator 120.  Tight and ballsy with lots of snarl.

Was thinking about A-Bomb, but i'm closer to juggernaut or something similar?
cause my band's style has some quick like "system of a down" parts like the
first song from this album!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN7oBbClH18

That's my band's latest release by the way!  :smiley:

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2017, 07:54:07 PM »
I think A-bomb should do for that kinda stuff ;).

P.S: I quite like your album ;).
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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #57 on: November 28, 2017, 01:12:08 PM »
I think A-bomb should do for that kinda stuff ;).

P.S: I quite like your album ;).

I think too!!
And you can always compress the signal as much as you want after all..

I'm glad you liked it  :smiley:

What pickup are you playing the most at the moment??

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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2017, 02:34:43 PM »
At the moment, I'm playing SD nazgul because it came stock in my mayones. It's slightly higher output than aftermath, not as tight and a little muddier and more compressed. Will get some BKPs in as soon as I get some extra cash to spend on pickups  :grin: (thinking nailbomb, maybe ragnarok, maybe black dog).

I have alnico black hawks in my les paul. They are cool, but they don't sound really raw and aggressive like aftermath does. Pretty tight though  :wink:.

I no longer own aftermath just because I didn't have any guitars I'd put it in at the time, so I sold it. It can sound pretty fatiguing and the tone is a little harder to dial in, but it is tight and precise. Kinda miss it.
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Re: Modern metal on a Gibson LP '08 in Drop C# with Eb 52/10, (long post)
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2017, 07:30:31 AM »
At the moment, I'm playing SD nazgul because it came stock in my mayones. It's slightly higher output than aftermath, not as tight and a little muddier and more compressed. Will get some BKPs in as soon as I get some extra cash to spend on pickups  :grin: (thinking nailbomb, maybe ragnarok, maybe black dog).

I have alnico black hawks in my les paul. They are cool, but they don't sound really raw and aggressive like aftermath does. Pretty tight though  :wink:.

I no longer own aftermath just because I didn't have any guitars I'd put it in at the time, so I sold it. It can sound pretty fatiguing and the tone is a little harder to dial in, but it is tight and precise. Kinda miss it.

Haha, man we both sound like you want a pickup one step back from what Aftermath is!!
Keeping the tight part, some kind less compressive and a bit more organic too,
i wonder if we descriping the Juggernaut here...  :laugh:

I love my "Fat" Les Paul but those Mayones are so f... tempting!!
The ultimate modern guitar.. Prs too, ok ok  :laugh: