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Eric

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« on: September 14, 2006, 11:04:06 PM »
I need help to see if this idea will even work or if it's practical.

OK I want to take my guitar that has two singles and a humbucker and wire it up as follows. There will be one of the 24 pole super-switches, 1 volume knob (500k) for the humbucker, 1 volume and 1 tone for the singles (250k each) and a mini-toggle switch .

The 5 position switch will give these options:
1- Neck single
2 -Neck and Middle singles parallel
3- Middle single
4- Neck and Middle singles series
5- Bridge humbucker

The mini-toggle switch will allow me to have the bridge pickup on all the time. So if it's on and the 5 position switch is on say position 1 you'd get the bridge bucker and the neck single. With the volume knobs for each you could mess with levels and blend them in many cool ways.

Will this work? Is it too complicated? Am I crazy?

Thanks in advance.

PhilKing

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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2006, 12:07:05 AM »
If you use an on-on-on mini toggle you could do what I have:

Bridge alone
5-way and bridge
5-way alone

I actually have the single coil on the toggle rather than the 5 way.  I have the humbuckers (H-S-H setup) with the following

Bridge HB
Outer coils parallel
Both HB in parallel
Outer coils series
Neck HB
So many pickups, so little time

Eric

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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2006, 01:18:39 AM »
So it's doable I just got to decide how crazy I want to make it?  :twisted:

PhilKing

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2006, 12:02:40 PM »
Yes - the super switch lets you do a ton of things,

I had one that did the following with a HSS setup

Bridge
Screw Coil bridge + middle in series
Bridge in parallel with middle and neck in series
middle and neck in series
neck

However I took it out, and went back to a more normal wiring.  There is a 4 pole 2 way switch which I have been looking at to add some more wiring changes (I was thinking of making series/parallel wiring switchable, but leaving the basic settings on the 3 way - so in other words you would combine in series with the toggle in one setting, or in parallel in the other).
So many pickups, so little time

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2006, 05:10:24 PM »
Eric, do you know how to actually achieve your planned wiring setup?

Those super-switches are amazing but I have to admit I can't get my head round how they work, I can only use them with a wiring diagram.  Too many options for my old brain to cope with.  :?

I'd be really interested to see a wiring diagram if you have it figured it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2006, 09:34:18 PM »
No I don't have it all figured out. LOL

I just like the idea of that switching system. It was party inspired by Tom Anderson's B5 switching system. Which allows the 5th position to always be the bridge in series. Also I like the idea of seperate volume knobs for the humbucker and the single coils. So you can have one sound for a cleaner part and another when you need to lay on the dirt. I've used SSH guitars enough to know I tend to prefer the sound of the bridge humbucker plus the middle single without splitting the bridge pickup. It just sounds better.

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2006, 09:43:46 PM »
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I've used SSH guitars enough to know I tend to prefer the sound of the bridge humbucker plus the middle single without splitting the bridge pickup. It just sounds better.

Yeah, I agree.  I have an PRS SE EG that I chucked a humbucker and a couple of singles into just to try out, expecting to do some fancy wiring later.  But the HB+middle sounds brilliant!
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2006, 10:33:25 PM »
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I've used SSH guitars enough to know I tend to prefer the sound of the bridge humbucker plus the middle single without splitting the bridge pickup. It just sounds better.

Yeah, I agree.  I have an PRS SE EG that I chucked a humbucker and a couple of singles into just to try out, expecting to do some fancy wiring later.  But the HB+middle sounds brilliant!


Yes, sometimes I think guitarist get too in love with tradition. You know it has to be a bridge single coil and a middle single coil in position 4. They're afraid to try new things. It always saddens me a bit that some peoplw wouldn't care if guitar design ended with Les Paul and Leo  Fender. Not that their designs weren't brilliant, I just like some innovation every so often.

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2006, 11:25:35 PM »
Yeah, there's this total obsession with everything having to sound exactly like a '59 Les Paul or a '57 Strat.  

When I first got interested in the guitar (over 25 years ago, am I really that old?!  :(  ) they used to go on about Clapton's Les Paul on the "Beano" album, or Paul Kossoff's '59 - but those guitars were only 10 years old when those recordings were made, they weren't like the Holy Grail!  I've got guitars twice that old but no-one would expect them to have mystical properties.

I think it all started in the 70s when Gibsons and Fenders were generally rubbish, and guitarists started harking back to the glory days of the late 50s.  Somehow, it became absolutely set in stone that basically those were the ONLY really good guitars ever made.  

We've all grown up reading that stuff as a sort of Article of Faith (and passing it on to successive generations!).  30 years later, in our heads we're still frozen in that time warp.  By now, many of those old guitars must be falling to bits but they're still what we're all supposed to aspire to (and I must admit, my ultimate dream guitar would be a '58 korina Flying V!).

It's almost like a bizarre fundamentalist religion.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2006, 12:20:52 AM »
Amen ;)

I for one like it when something new comes along, like Parker guitars. I'm in no hurry to get one, but they did introduce stainless steel frets and helped popularize piezo systems in guitars. So thinking outside the box is a good thing.

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2006, 08:42:28 PM »
hey don't dis parker they just needed a good set up and decent pickups...bkp of course
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2006, 08:53:07 PM »
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hey don't dis parker they just needed a good set up and decent pickups...bkp of course


I'm not dissing Parker. They're just not my cup of tea really. Which means I'll probably buy one eventually. ;)

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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2006, 08:54:29 PM »
yeah am like that need a bigger rack for them now
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