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Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 29, 2007, 01:14:01 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/user/13STRINGS

i dont normally like to  put down anyones efforts to make an instrument but this guy seems so sure he's created something great  that he is trying to sell it for 1000.

so, issues:

laminated knotty pine construction
Duct tape used as clamps
veneer fretboard sitting on a hollow frame!!!!
an unplayable neck!!
26" scale length (not a bass!!!)


strangely the guy has not posted any soundclips - i wonder why.

If by some fluke of nature the pine is able to hold up to the tension required the scale length is far to short for bass strings anyway and they will have the tone of a wet fart!!


I like multistring basses with huge necks but i think there are some very practical reasons why this style of 13 string bass wouldnt work anyway for anything other than tap style playing anyway
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: psy on July 29, 2007, 01:57:11 PM
I was just reading about this bass yesterday over at project guitar.  I read that he deletes any comments questioning his build from Youtube.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: indysmith on July 29, 2007, 01:57:29 PM
That guy's voice makes me want to kill...
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: noodleplugerine on July 29, 2007, 02:56:23 PM
Saw this a while back - His design ideas are so flawed :|

First thing I'd like to say - How awkward would the balance on that be :|
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: sambo on July 29, 2007, 03:48:11 PM
what an arse...


"THE PATH I TAKE IS FOR THE CREATIVE, THE INSPIRED & INSPIRATIONAL. IT IS FOR THOSE WHO DARE TREAD WHERE OTHER'S WOULDN'T, TO CREATE THE UN-CREATED, TO THINK THE UN-THAUGHT!"

he really does think it's pretty great doesnt he...

it's basically a table with strings.

EDIT: wait a sec.... did anyone else pick on something a bit suspect.... there is no sign or mention of the actual routing for the pickup...

theres a control cavity, and a pickup/pickup cavity.... but there seems to be absolutely no connection between the two.... and in fact, there is a screenshot of the control cavity, and its a little hollow about a couple of inches in volume with no routing to the pickup cavity.... !!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :?  :?
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: noodleplugerine on July 29, 2007, 04:31:37 PM
The Bridge is made of wood - And the high strings have fret buzz - Which is awesome, since he can't change the intonation ;D
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 29, 2007, 05:05:39 PM
nothing wrong with having a wooden bridge - its a  differnt sound but still quite appealing.....  but it needs to be something good like ebony and even then it will get a lot of wear but it can be very pleasing on a bass.  and technically i suppose he doesnt need to worry about intonation on a fretless with no markings


I reckon his next idea is for a 14 string - -that seems to be the way he wants to 'evolve' the guitar

i like crazy experiments  so nothing wrong with that - but if he had actually succeeded in making a workable instrument he should be proud to actually show someone trying to play it

It would be quite fun if it wasnt for all the BS he talks with it

Lets face it though - its not even a a success visually in which case it would be a good wall hanger if not a player!!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Simon D on July 29, 2007, 05:12:36 PM
Wow. What an utterly pointless instrument.

Like Wez, I'm not exactly convinced by the idea of a laminated fretboard on a hollow frame either - it doesn't immediately bring to mind the phrase 'structural integrity' does it?

As far as the woods he's used go, correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think pine was noted for its qualities as a tonewood? Cheap bedroom furniture - yes. Guitars - no.

Also, how the hell would you go about playing it? There's no way it could be played in anything like a conventional manner - you'd either have to tap it or try to play it piano-style, like Jeff Healey.

Will anyone start the bidding at 1000?

Erm, no.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: _tom_ on July 29, 2007, 05:43:09 PM
That looks absolutely shite, and the guy just seems very annoying  :?
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Kilby on July 29, 2007, 07:17:45 PM
I cxan only say Oh Dear !

From his favoured music, it seems that being an Emo type he didn't do it for the instrument, but for the injurys sustained while building it.

Perhaps he should have started with 4 strings ans worked up to something bigger
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Ted on July 29, 2007, 07:41:38 PM
Quote
it's basically a table with strings.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

That is shite....
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on July 29, 2007, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: sambo
what an arse...


"THE PATH I TAKE IS FOR THE CREATIVE, THE INSPIRED & INSPIRATIONAL. IT IS FOR THOSE WHO DARE TREAD WHERE OTHER'S WOULDN'T, TO CREATE THE UN-CREATED, TO THINK THE UN-THAUGHT!"

he really does think it's pretty great doesnt he...


Amen, that's what I thought when I read his bio: egomaniac. Plus, the pics of himself as an angel.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Will on July 29, 2007, 10:15:01 PM
http://www.myspace.com/howmanystrings

lol
you thought the youtube background was bad....
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: sambo on July 29, 2007, 10:20:38 PM
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey


Amen, that's what I thought when I read his bio: egomaniac. Plus, the pics of himself as an angel.


indeed! the pics are just...  :?

the ones on Will's link are even worse.......


and this spelling is really getting to me now, the third time he's used it:


"SOMTIMES YOU JUST NEED TO BE ALONE WITH YOUR THAUGHT'S."
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 29, 2007, 11:10:43 PM
He ought to be alone with a dictionary.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: noodleplugerine on July 29, 2007, 11:12:42 PM
Nothing like being spammed by My Chemical Romance.

I wonder what he's going to play on that 13 string bass...
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: sambo on July 29, 2007, 11:17:18 PM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
He ought to be alone with a dictionary.


 :lol:  :lol:

noodle- i doubt he'll be playing much seeing as it's so.... well.... terrible.  :lol:
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 30, 2007, 07:58:13 AM
i reckon there would be some fun to be had with a wine bottle as a slide - maybe get some strange sound effects anyway, mainly the sound of cracking wood i imagine.

My main issue with it is his attitude.  If i had come across that thing and the guy was fully aware that what he had made was far from perfect  but just wanted to have an experiment as a muck around then that would be fair enough.  

I saw this picture the other day:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/1-6.jpg)

its the first guitar i made.  It had an uncountable number of flaws and played very badly - but actually managed to sound very nice which convinced me to do more!! I still think it looks pretty cool as well, even though the wooden scratchplate never went flat. I cut it up into pieces last year because i was never gonna play it anymore and niether was anyone else if i had anything to do with it.

Anyway, the point of that nostalgia for me - you will notice that on my first i went for a fairly established design and construction method..  cant re-invent the wheel till you understand how the old one works!!!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: sambo on July 30, 2007, 01:22:28 PM
^that looks pretty nice for a debut build i must say. i know i couldnt do any better!

and yer, his attitude is what makes it annoying.

it would be really cool if he set out to make it as a guitar you can build from stuff lying around the house. like a bits-and-bobs bass.... but thats definitely not where hes coming from
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 30, 2007, 02:37:19 PM
wow - the superbass is now on eBay!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/13-STRNG-BASS-GUITAR-THE-WORLDS-FIRST-SUPER-BASS_W0QQitemZ290143303102QQihZ019QQcategoryZ4713QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Once in a lifetime opportunity folks!!! :wink:
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: noodleplugerine on July 30, 2007, 03:59:59 PM
Jesus christ this guy's insane :|
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: sambo on July 30, 2007, 04:05:52 PM
haha!

i messaged him asking whether the pickup is actually routed to the control cavity....  could be interesting
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 30, 2007, 04:12:47 PM
apparently he has been deleting every nslightly negative or even constructive comment that has been left on his youtube page.

watch his video of tattoo's if you really want a laugh!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iip4HTiu74s

I am a fan of big tattoos, in fact i have just booked in to have my forearm extended into a full sleeve, this guys tattoos are nearly as bad as his super bass
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: sambo on July 30, 2007, 04:31:30 PM
yer the guy thinks its superb and obviously doesn't want to be told different!

didnt notice his tattoo video before... thanks for the link  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

i love the idea of tattoos as well, even if i never end up getting one (which hopefully i actually will), i love the artistic side of some designs...

but i have to agree... these are terrible! most of his "black art" stuff looks like it's done in felt tip...  

and then the slipknot tattoo.... well.... nothing needs to be said about that really....  :oops:  :oops:

i love this guys work: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=68556511


oh and post a pic when your sleeves completed!!!  :)
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 30, 2007, 04:58:59 PM
well here is the forearm i had done last year;
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/tattoo2.jpg)

and here is the design i drew for the top of the arm
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/tattoo.jpg)

This will cover all the top and go onto chest and back.  The hair will be black and extend down my arm in big circular art nouveau curls

Some of you may think its a bit girly but i reckon anything evil would look bloody daft on my skinny arms...  and the ladies love it :wink: !!!!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: _tom_ on July 30, 2007, 05:09:54 PM
Quote from: sambo
yer the guy thinks its superb and obviously doesn't want to be told different!

didnt notice his tattoo video before... thanks for the link  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

i love the idea of tattoos as well, even if i never end up getting one (which hopefully i actually will), i love the artistic side of some designs...

but i have to agree... these are terrible! most of his "black art" stuff looks like it's done in felt tip...  

and then the slipknot tattoo.... well.... nothing needs to be said about that really....  :oops:  :oops:

i love this guys work: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=68556511

oh and post a pic when your sleeves completed!!!  :)


:lol: They do look awful, might post a comment :P...

nice tat wez, I think the new design looks good as well. If I ever manage to lose weight and tone myself up (tbh not very likely :() I'd like one, but deciding on a design must be hard!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: sambo on July 30, 2007, 05:12:48 PM
yer nice wez.

i love flower designs for some reason. much better than the ultimate in all predictability- tribal designs  :evil:

and +1 tom, i dont think i could ever decide on a design...
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 30, 2007, 09:16:59 PM
I just checked this on E-bay and I see him already swamped with bids. It is indeed a splendid "oppertuity" to own such a "unque" "gutar" and we should be grateful that it is "accesable" and as a bonus I see that it has a "beech wod" bridge which might be the tipping point for many. I know some  6 year- olds with superior vocabularies. OK bitchin' over. "Retard Guitars" has a certain ring to it though.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Simon D on July 30, 2007, 09:24:31 PM
Jesus christ! I just looked at the eBay auction, and was struck by two things.

1. He hasn't even bothered to work out how to tune the bar-steward thing! Pillock.

2. The guy's spelling is awful. "UNQUE" "EXTREAMLY" "ACCESABLE". It make me cringe, and feel slightly sick.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: indysmith on July 30, 2007, 09:35:35 PM
Wez your forearm is AWESOME

jesus this 13 strings bloke is like the impersonation of the word TACKY
nothing i hate to see more than an english bloke waving the american flag :shock:
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Simon D on July 30, 2007, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
"Retard Guitars" has a certain ring to it though.


 :D  :D  :D I couldn't agree more. Classic!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: sambo on July 30, 2007, 09:54:30 PM
haha hilarious answer to a question from someone- "could you describe the sound of the bass for me please?"

and his answer was:

"WHEN I DID HAVE IT WIRED UP IT WAS DEEP"

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

he answered my question of whether all the routing was done or not with:

"NO, EVERYTHING IS ROUTED, ALL THE HARDWARE IS THERE, IT JUST NEED'S WIRING!"

which i just don't believe basically.




 :lol:
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Simon D on July 30, 2007, 10:24:34 PM
^ Yeah, I wouldn't believe that further than I can spit frankly. Oh, and he didn't need an apostrophe on "NEEDS".

The guy just looks like a total chancer who's trying to make a few quid out of some unsuspecting sap. Here's hoping the prat fails miserably.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 30, 2007, 10:26:43 PM
Quote from: Simon D

1. He hasn't even bothered to work out how to tune the bar-steward thing! Pillock.



there is no way to tune it - not without about 400lbs on that laminated pine construction

there is lots about this on the project guitar forum, where we are generally quite accepting of newbies bad ideas - as long as they are willing to take advice from people who know  better.

Some of them have been asking the ebay questions and leaving constructive criticism on youtube that keeps getting deleted..

I dont think its ever been wired up because why would you unwire it to sell it when there is only really one way it can be wired anyway!!!

One asked how he had recorded the sound samples in one of his videos - the answer was 'software'!!!!

 :lol:
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: indysmith on July 30, 2007, 10:32:11 PM
Quote from: WezV

One asked how he had recorded the sound samples in one of his videos - the answer was 'software'!!!!

 :lol:

haha I'd love to see that video - yu got a link?
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Simon D on July 30, 2007, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: WezV

there is no way to tune it - not without about 400lbs on that laminated pine construction.


How in god's name are you supposed to play it if it can't be tuned? (I'm expresing incredulity at 13 string bloke's lack of skill here, not being sarcastic towards Wez.)

How can this guy try to sell an instrument with such a fundamental design flaw and expect anyone to go for it? He must have an ego the size of Texas!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: noodleplugerine on July 30, 2007, 11:18:27 PM
I'm amazed that he thinks he can get away with selling something so abundantly flawed.

He didn't even measure the headstock correctly - So none of the strings reach their corresponding machineheads =x
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Will on July 30, 2007, 11:54:46 PM
i think this guy is trying to become famous or something
looking at his myspace URL, its all about the damn bass, and he has added 1000 ish friends in the space of 10 months?
obsessed with something so cr@p - and tacky
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: sambo on July 31, 2007, 12:17:22 AM
Quote from: WezV

I dont think its ever been wired up because why would you unwire it to sell it when there is only really one way it can be wired anyway!!!



dead right!

which begs the question.... why did he not wire it up...? seeing as it's so amazing and such a unique, fine instrument you would assume that he would...

i still think he's been a total dumbarse and not actually routed the pickup to the control cavity.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: blue on July 31, 2007, 01:35:10 AM
y'know, i feel kinda sorry for this poor deluded gimp, although i suspect if i had to spend some time with him i might feel something else!

the "bass" so obviously doesn't actually work, yet he seems to have invested all of himself in it.  it looks like it was made by a four year old.

and then there's the tattoo video.  i couldn't bring myself to watch all of it.  "my girlfriend's not here at the minute"?  i suspect his girlfriend is what's holding the camera!! :roll:

i actually feel guilty saying anything bad about him, he's just obviously a deluded idiot.  unfortunately in these days of the internet he can spread his message and be derided by people all over the world!!

so, i think "sad" is the word we're all looking for.  maybe we should just leave him alone?

(we'll all be kicking ourselves when the next big band(tm) arrives armed with super basses!! :lol:  )
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 31, 2007, 08:55:08 AM
i know what you are saying blue, i do feel a little cruel!!

But the issue here isnt that he has tried to make something and got it a bit wrong - i wouldnt usually mock somebody for that...  The issue is that hes trying to pass it off as something good, and whats worse - he is trying to sell it as a proper instrument!!!!

If he had made this for personal use i would be very supportive to his experiments.  i would offer constructive criticism where i think he had gone wrong and if he listened he would probably end up with something at least playable.

as soon as i put it up for sale he opened himself up for public humiliation, and his attitude doesnt help!!!

Here is a 'sound clip' over a slideshow:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y73rYHdnw

Lets just say there is no way those bass sounds are coming from that bass and leave it at that!!

I am all for extended range basses - still not sure how people play them but there are lots of very talented luthiers experimenting with designs.

here is a nice well made 10 string:

http://www.melodiamusik.com/musical/images/img_w300/Foto_17%20-%2010%20string%20Bass%20Jerzy%20Drozd_w300.jpg

9 is really a more common number:
http://www.veilletteguitars.com/program_generated/blogs/images/veillette/1158847482.jpg

here is a guy that plays 9,11 and 12 string basses and is apparently having a 13 string made (not by this guy though):
http://www.myspace.com/jeanbaudin


So, in theory i must say i am not against the idea of a 13 string bass.... this thing would be just as bad if he had made it as a four string!!!!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 31, 2007, 09:00:20 AM
ok, just saw the video of jean baudin on his myspace page - i think i want an 11 string now;

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.showvids&friendID=13522698&n=13522698&MyToken=f5a82466-0cbe-4f4c-a5d3-3132a1756cae
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: indysmith on July 31, 2007, 09:29:08 AM
Quote from: WezV


Here is a 'sound clip' over a slideshow:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y73rYHdnw

Lets just say there is no way those bass sounds are coming from that bass and leave it at that!!

to be fair to the guy, it does say
(NOTE THIS IS NOT THE SUPER BASS PLAYING, ALTHOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK IT IS, SORRY).  
in the vid description.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 31, 2007, 09:39:30 AM
ah, he must have added that - maybe some self realisation is slipping through!!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: blue on July 31, 2007, 11:40:31 AM
Quote from: WezV
i know what you are saying blue, i do feel a little cruel!!

But the issue here isnt that he has tried to make something and got it a bit wrong - i wouldnt usually mock somebody for that...  The issue is that hes trying to pass it off as something good, and whats worse - he is trying to sell it as a proper instrument!!!!

If he had made this for personal use i would be very supportive to his experiments.  i would offer constructive criticism where i think he had gone wrong and if he listened he would probably end up with something at least playable.

as soon as i put it up for sale he opened himself up for public humiliation, and his attitude doesnt help!!!



very true Wez, i see your point.  although it would take as big a fool as him to actually buy the damn thing! :lol:
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: noodleplugerine on July 31, 2007, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: WezV
i know what you are saying blue, i do feel a little cruel!!

But the issue here isnt that he has tried to make something and got it a bit wrong - i wouldnt usually mock somebody for that...  The issue is that hes trying to pass it off as something good, and whats worse - he is trying to sell it as a proper instrument!!!!

If he had made this for personal use i would be very supportive to his experiments.  i would offer constructive criticism where i think he had gone wrong and if he listened he would probably end up with something at least playable.

as soon as i put it up for sale he opened himself up for public humiliation, and his attitude doesnt help!!!

Here is a 'sound clip' over a slideshow:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y73rYHdnw

Lets just say there is no way those bass sounds are coming from that bass and leave it at that!!

I am all for extended range basses - still not sure how people play them but there are lots of very talented luthiers experimenting with designs.

here is a nice well made 10 string:

http://www.melodiamusik.com/musical/images/img_w300/Foto_17%20-%2010%20string%20Bass%20Jerzy%20Drozd_w300.jpg

9 is really a more common number:
http://www.veilletteguitars.com/program_generated/blogs/images/veillette/1158847482.jpg

here is a guy that plays 9,11 and 12 string basses and is apparently having a 13 string made (not by this guy though):
http://www.myspace.com/jeanbaudin


So, in theory i must say i am not against the idea of a 13 string bass.... this thing would be just as bad if he had made it as a four string!!!!


http://www.jeanbaudin.com/ - Click on basses/gear.

One of his 11 strings - Made by Conklin ofc..

(http://www.jeanbaudin.com/images/hclaw1.jpg)

(http://www.jeanbaudin.com/images/hclaw2.jpg)

And the coolest ever 9 string - Also made by conklin...

(http://www.jeanbaudin.com/images/pac9anglemedium.jpg)

(http://www.jeanbaudin.com/images/pactunerz.jpg)
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 31, 2007, 03:42:28 PM
They are amazing when done properly!!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: indysmith on July 31, 2007, 03:49:32 PM
jeeeeesus the MATHS that must go into one of those things is scary!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: noodleplugerine on July 31, 2007, 04:21:18 PM
Quote from: indysmith
jeeeeesus the MATHS that must go into one of those things is scary!


Indeed!

Fanned frets are incredibly beautiful though - And really not that difficult to play on - Infact, I find it easier in some ways.

The body shape of the 11 string is really phenomenal - With those beautiful woods it doesn't look so exclusively "black metal" infact - It looks amazing beautiful and ornate.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on July 31, 2007, 04:52:35 PM
the maths isnt to bad for fanned frets - you just need to decide what scale length your highest and lowest strings will have and essentially after that you just join the dots!!!

I am put off making owt like that for a while because the hardware cost alone would break the bank!!  but really it wouldnt be that much more difficult to do!!
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 31, 2007, 06:12:17 PM
I wouldn't know where to begin with 11 strings- now 4 or 5 I can cope with. I wonder what the regulars at the Ferret & Paint Tin would make of that.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Kilby on August 01, 2007, 12:00:37 AM
Foe the original guy my mother would have used the phrase,

He's more to be pitied than mocked

* except he is either delusional or or he us trying to rip (stupid) people off *
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: noodleplugerine on August 05, 2007, 04:42:04 AM
And it failed to sell.

Even at 400 - He can forget the grand he was asking for.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: 38thBeatle on August 05, 2007, 10:54:02 AM
Ah well, back to the drawing board( perhaps making one rather than using it). I guess the world at large thought that firewood would be cheaper and far more freely available locally.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: gingataff on August 05, 2007, 02:16:14 PM
I was going to post this link but my girlfriend thought it was to cruel, I said "If I don't then somebody else will".
"Oh, OK!" she replied.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VrJA9LmAKy4&mode=related&search=
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Woogie on August 05, 2007, 02:26:28 PM
^^ rofl
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Bird on August 05, 2007, 02:37:33 PM
Quote from: gingataff
I was going to post this link but my girlfriend thought it was to cruel, I said "If I don't then somebody else will".
"Oh, OK!" she replied.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VrJA9LmAKy4&mode=related&search=


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Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Will on August 05, 2007, 02:44:34 PM
doesn't he claim that its a neck through?
is that the right technical term for a 50+ birch ply table with strings?
strikes me as weird
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: WezV on August 05, 2007, 02:59:49 PM
no, he is right about that - the peices of wood go right from the tip of eheadstock to the butt of the guitar so it is technically a neck that goes through!

almost like this carl thompson in that respect:
http://www.ctbasses.com/picview.php?src=lesRain.jpg
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Will on August 05, 2007, 03:12:58 PM
ah right, the picture of it in his kitchen before he cut it just made me think.
Title: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!)
Post by: Peter Antal on August 05, 2007, 07:21:06 PM
We do know what it would sound like, if someone tried to play it, lol...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BcgA86yfcHI

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