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MrBump:
Anyone watch the Salmond/Darling debate last night?

You couldn't get two more different politicians.  Nothing new was talked about, no new ground.  But it was interesting to see the tactics taken by each.

blue:
from the bits I've seen, Salmond comes across as a loud mouthed, obnoxious bully.  Just my impression.  He does seem fixated on the "idea" of an independent Scotland, while using bluster to cover the fact that he doesn't really know how it would work.  Sort of "I don't care what problems there are, I just want it."

MrBump:

--- Quote from: blue on August 06, 2014, 02:40:13 PM ---from the bits I've seen, Salmond comes across as a loud mouthed, obnoxious bully.  Just my impression.  He does seem fixated on the "idea" of an independent Scotland, while using bluster to cover the fact that he doesn't really know how it would work.  Sort of "I don't care what problems there are, I just want it."

--- End quote ---

Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.  I'm pro Union, but as a soft southerner I guess I'm irrelevant to the debate.  But there are things that I really DON'T want, particularly a currency union with an independant Scotland.

There was just too much ducking and diving from Salmond, I thought.

Philly Q:
Although the "Yes" campaign are still behind in the polls, Alex Salmond should really have an easy job of it in the debates - all I've ever heard him say is how wonderful everything is going to be in an independent Scotland, without needing to (or being able to) actually prove anything.  And it's simple for him to dismiss all the "No" arguments as negative and pessimistic.

Despite all that, Darling seems to have done pretty well in the first debate, from what little I've seen and read about.

The currency argument annoys me.  Salmond says it's Scotland's pound as much as it is the rest of the UK's - which is true - but he wants Scotland to leave the union.  It's like splitting up with someone then expecting to be able to come back whenever you fancy to use the kitchen or watch TV.  I realise that's oversimplifying it a bit.....

I can't even begin to imagine how complicated it will be unravelling various elements of the UK infrastructure if the Scots actually do vote for independence.

juansolo:
Salmond wants to go down in Scottish history as the man who gave back Scotland it's freedom. That worries me as he doesn't appear to be thinking of the consequences as much has his own personal agenda (self-serving politician in it for his own gains shocker).

Where I stand on it is thus. If it can be made to work and the Scots vote for it. Then good luck to them. But they need to sever all ties to the UK to do this. That includes financial ones. It means Scotland joining the Euro asap (I'm not sure how quickly that could be brought in) and it would have serious ramifications to a lot of business in Scotland. This cannot be overlooked.

I suspect Scotland is better in the union than out, and I can't help but feel that leaving it would be a catastrophic mistake that comes mostly down to generations of anti-English indoctrination. BUT, if as a majority that's what they want, then that is what they should get. I very much doubt there'll be any half measures regarding the currency, and any thinking there will be is delusional.

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