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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: indysmith on October 23, 2007, 12:15:43 PM

Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: indysmith on October 23, 2007, 12:15:43 PM
I've been thinking, since most preamps seem to be tailored towards mainly shred and metal... is there any really nice lower gain, bluesy preamps out there, with nice cleans?
I had a Mesa V-Twin, but it proved to be too muddy, and slightly scooped sounding on all channels. Other than that it was quite nice however; with a nice gain structure. just poor e.q.
I guess there's plenty of valve based pedals, but I'm thinking more rackmount atm.
thanks
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: Peter Antal on October 23, 2007, 12:31:26 PM
The MTS preamp by Randall looks interesting, there are plenty of clean/low-gain modules to choose from.
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: hunter on October 23, 2007, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: Peter Antal
The MTS preamp by Randall looks interesting, there are plenty of clean/low-gain modules to choose from.


The Plexi module is great, other than that I was not impressed. However, the luxury version of the Randall system, the original from Egnater, is pretty awesome. It has fantastic modules for Twin, Deluxe, Vox, Plexi, etc. sounds that are hard to top.

To be honest, not a preamp as such, but the Tonelab SE is great for blues or rock sounds.
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: indysmith on October 23, 2007, 01:11:10 PM
not really rackmount though...
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 23, 2007, 01:43:16 PM
The clean channel on the ADA MP1 will do the trick nicely, or even a low gain setting on the Distortion channel

And if you want less gain take an ADA MP1 and change the valves to lower output ones like a 12AU7 and that will work a treat
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 23, 2007, 01:58:16 PM
The idea of  someone wanting a 'blues rack mount' seems totally oxymoronic to me.
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: indysmith on October 23, 2007, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
The idea of  someone wanting a 'blues rack mount' seems totally oxymoronic to me.

why?
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 23, 2007, 03:20:35 PM
Because the very nature of getting a good blues tone comes from the direct connection of the player and a combo amplifier, with the absolute minimum amount of 'stuff' between the player and the audience.
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: bucketshred on October 23, 2007, 03:25:12 PM
Ah but this could be proto-hyper-spacey-hallucination inducing-punk-garage-dance-blues.

And therefore a rack would be needed! But for the most part I agree with Ben!

(btw, just buy a POD or a Roland Cube!)
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: Woogie on October 23, 2007, 03:36:33 PM
Instead of being an arse and telling you you're wrong I`ll give you an option I think would work. Try a Marshall JMP-1, used you can pick one up for £150 and the Plexi setting is really nice. It might not sound like a Plexi but it sounds sweet when it's set to just break up.

Good luck on your blues quest  8)

Edit: Or just buy my VC30 2x12 ;)
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: Will on October 23, 2007, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: bucketshred

(btw, just buy a POD or a Roland Cube!)


I advise you edit that out before Indy bites off your head  :P
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: indysmith on October 23, 2007, 05:40:25 PM
Quote from: Will
Quote from: bucketshred

(btw, just buy a POD or a Roland Cube!)


I advise you edit that out before Indy bites off your head  :P

LOL.

I don't want really this preamp at all guys - don't need it. I was just wandering if one exists, because it just seemed to be a massive gap in the market to me. You guys seem to reckon that nobody would want anything like it though...
I always just figured that having a rack of gear would be a great tool for versatility if you had a few differently voiced preamps and a nice poweramp. Especially in a studio setting...
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: bucketshred on October 23, 2007, 05:55:10 PM
True.

But a lot of studios use POD's and studio magic these days. In fact, I reckon most records out there use POD's for some part of the recording, especially metal records.

Andy!
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: Hell Hound on October 23, 2007, 07:24:28 PM
I'd go with a used Mesa V-Twin myself, but it's not a rack pre.
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: indysmith on October 23, 2007, 07:38:23 PM
Quote from: Hell Hound
I'd go with a used Mesa V-Twin myself, but it's not a rack pre.

read the original post. also, it comes in a rackmount format too.
Title: Blues Preamp
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 23, 2007, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: indysmith
Quote from: Will
Quote from: bucketshred

(btw, just buy a POD or a Roland Cube!)


I advise you edit that out before Indy bites off your head  :P

LOL.

I don't want really this preamp at all guys - don't need it. I was just wandering if one exists, because it just seemed to be a massive gap in the market to me. You guys seem to reckon that nobody would want anything like it though...
I always just figured that having a rack of gear would be a great tool for versatility if you had a few differently voiced preamps and a nice poweramp. Especially in a studio setting...


That is what I have got and the Soldano, Rocktron, ADA and Engl units do a great job on the rock stuff and there are a few units that can do pop and blues and Jazz too

You might have to look around a bit but the sounds are there

I will use one of my MP1s for a plexi tone  whilst others have been hot rodded for 80s metal

But  many preamps will do nicely if you swap the 12AX7 valve for a 12AT7 or a 12AU7