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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Pauldem on October 24, 2007, 03:08:19 PM

Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Pauldem on October 24, 2007, 03:08:19 PM: I came across this Gibson Model the other day and wondered what people think?

1999 Gibson Custom Shop Zakk Wylde Rough Top Les Paul (CSZWRT NH1) (http://www.maeguitars.com/gallery/MAE-Guitars_CSZWRT_(3).jpg)

Sorry about the image quality.

I kinda like it, but not as much as te Power Les Pauls that were only available in the states.
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Will on October 24, 2007, 04:57:26 PM: Its ok.
Looks like a standard that they buggered up, decided to put EMGs on it and sell it for more.
Also by Gibsons standards, it looks really cheap... If there is body binding, it would the natural kind, no fretboard binding. cheap top.

Would rather own one of those than one with a bullseye on though

I like the MAEGUITARS.COM graphics on it though :roll:
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: apmaman on October 24, 2007, 05:02:07 PM: It looks good enough for a studio guitar!!
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Pauldem on October 24, 2007, 05:13:07 PM: Quote from: Will
Its ok.
Looks like a standard that they buggered up, decided to put EMGs on it and sell it for more.
Also by Gibsons standards, it looks really cheap... If there is body binding, it would the natural kind, no fretboard binding. cheap top.

Would rather own one of those than one with a bullseye on though

I like the MAEGUITARS.COM graphics on it though :roll:

I think it looks a touch like those awful BFG Gibsons with the random knobs and pickups. Just surprised to see a Zakkwylde without the trademarks.

Whats wrong with the Bullseye models. I love mine :D
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Will on October 24, 2007, 05:19:29 PM: I have an Epi one, and like its acoustic resonance, and is alright plugged in.

But wouldn't want to stand on stage advertising Mr Wylde
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Pauldem on October 24, 2007, 05:28:17 PM: Well they weigh a ton as well. It's a fine guitar but it's not something that leaves the house other than for recording on occasion.
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Pauldem on October 24, 2007, 05:28:37 PM: Well they weigh a ton as well. It's a fine guitar but it's not something that leaves the house other than for recording on occasion.
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: shobet on October 24, 2007, 06:46:27 PM: It looks like it's covered in corrugated cardboard!
Title: Re: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Nadz1lla on October 24, 2007, 08:51:36 PM: Quote from: Pauldem
I didn't know these even existed.

There's a reason for that; Gibson didn't tell anyone because of the shame. :lol:
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Mr Ed on October 24, 2007, 08:56:06 PM: Uuuuuugly.
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 24, 2007, 10:52:58 PM: Yep - looks like the BFG (Badly finished Guitar)

In fact this looks like the first pass from the CNC router without any clean up- or hardly any....
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: indysmith on October 24, 2007, 10:54:46 PM: Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
Yep - looks like the BFG (Badly finished Guitar)

In fact this looks like the first pass from the CNC router without any clean up- or hardly any....

why's everyone dissin' the BFG? - it looks great to me!
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 24, 2007, 10:56:51 PM: Quote from: indysmith
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
Yep - looks like the BFG (Badly finished Guitar)

In fact this looks like the first pass from the CNC router without any clean up- or hardly any....

why's everyone dissin' the BFG? - it looks great to me!

I quite like the look - at first glance it looked like a bit of uber flame maple till I realised it was cut marks....

Actually I reckon they could be good fun to play as well.......
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Philly Q on October 24, 2007, 11:09:39 PM: That Zakk guitar looks like a set of Venetian blinds...

As for the BFG, I think a rough-hewn LP is a good idea, but Gibson being Gibson they had to do stupid things like leaving the cover off the P-90 and not having a cap on the selector switch (plus the clear plastic cavity covers, but I suppose some people might like those). Fancy wooden knobs on such a stripped-down guitar was also a bizarre idea - they should have used plastic knobs with holes melted in them for better grip, like those Dimebag guitars.
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: indysmith on October 24, 2007, 11:31:31 PM: Quote from: Philly Q
That Zakk guitar looks like a set of Venetian blinds...

As for the BFG, I think a rough-hewn LP is a good idea, but Gibson being Gibson they had to do stupid things like leaving the cover off the P-90 and not having a cap on the selector switch (plus the clear plastic cavity covers, but I suppose some people might like those). Fancy wooden knobs on such a stripped-down guitar was also a bizarre idea - they should have used plastic knobs with holes melted in them for better grip, like those Dimebag guitars.

all those things you listed are painfully lame, as is the marketting for it.
I think it looks like fun though; i like the idea behind it - might try one next time i'm in town.
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Mr Ed on October 25, 2007, 12:37:41 AM: The BFG is an absolute abortion of a guitar! The only way they could justify it is if they halved the price - they want something like 800 quid for a guitar with no finishing touches whatsoever. Ugly as $%&#.
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Pauldem on October 25, 2007, 01:24:52 AM: I agree entirely, it makes me a little ill in the same way the nighthawk did. The nighthawk by comparison is a pretty thing. Now the Raw Power Les Paul is the one. If anyone ever finds one let me know 8)
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: blue on October 25, 2007, 01:34:36 AM: i liked the Nighthawk, i own a Blueshawk (great little guitar), and i rather like the BFG!

this is the trouble with Gibson, if they stick to re-issues they get criticised, but if they try anything different they get crucified! that Zakk one at the start does look cr@p though :wink:
Title: I didn't know these even existed.
Post by: Philly Q on October 25, 2007, 08:39:14 PM: Quote from: blue
this is the trouble with Gibson, if they stick to re-issues they get criticised, but if they try anything different they get crucified!

The problem is, they hardly ever do anything in the way of either (a) subtle refinements or (b) genuine (useful) innovations.

It's all idiotic stuff like giant mirror scratchplates, gimmicky useless hardware (the SG GT anyone?) and novelty finishes that could only appeal to children. And when they do come up with something new, like the Digital LP, it's usually badly thought out.