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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: noodleplugerine on October 25, 2007, 10:08:33 PM
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Basically, I've realised the last thing I need in terms of gear (before I start doubling my guitar collection) is some decent pedals, racks, etc.
First things I'm getting are:
BBE Sonic Maximizer
Morley Bad Horsie
BOSS SD1
Electro Harmonix Small Stone
Now, what I ask you, is there any pedals that you know, which can be got for not TOO expensive, ie, £50ish either new OR 2nd hand (ebay seems to be just amazing for cheap pedals) that you believe are either superb, or essential for any guitar setup.
I'm also looking for a good tuner which can be bought for a decent amount of money - preferably a rack one, and if they exist, a rack or stompbox metronome that can tick through the amp - that would be superb.
I'm also planning on buying a looping pedal so that I can loop chord progressions to play over - so if anyone knows a good looping pedal which isn't too expensive, I don't need a hundred stomps with a million overlaying ostinati, but something simple but effective.
Also, if there's a good cheap A/B pedal which can be bought - Please, by all means suggest.
That's a whole load of stuff, but I plan on really expanding my pedalboard this christmas - Thanks for any input!
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hmm, Personally wouldn't choose the Boss DS1 :?
I think would it not be worth putting a little bit more money into the OD box atleast?
Anything to take the simple dryness from the sound? reverb / short delay?
edit: Kurt Cobain ish kind of thing?
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I agree get an SD1 or a Bad Monkey instead of the DS1. Horrible, horrible pedal.
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whoops, I meant SD1, and I don't need a reverb, my amp's one is fine - Only want the SD1 as a small boost if/when needed.
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For a boost, I personally would sooner use an EQ or a transparent clean boost.
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Boss CE-1 Chorus: Very rich simple to use chorus that is the only usable chorus with overdriven tone IMHO. Its a bit rare but they often pop up for little money.
Noise gate, also nice for loops
Stompbox tuner with power supply cord.
To max versatility when you allready have an SD-1 i would suggest to put a good vintage type distortion of your choise in, i have several which i use just to push an amp in a way the SD wont go. I like the Marshall shredmaster(oldie) alot because of the (primitive) amp modeling options, you can create different sounds with the ease of a stompbox switch. An equalizer would be another option in this respect.
Allthough i have an SD, i also like to use the OD-1 which is somewhat fuller sounding but has a very nice high edge which complement harmonics better in my setup.
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See if you can pick up a used Keeley SD-1 instead of the standard Boss one. It's more expensive but you'll be glad you did.
For the cheapest and best A/B switches in the UK at the moment, see http://www.redonionsolutions.co.uk/ . I've used them - truly excellent.
For a cheap tuner, I use the Behringer TU-300. it works great, but needs to be kept out of the signal pathway with another A/B switch (£26) due to cr@p buffers. However, even good pedal tuners tend to be tone-suckers, and are best kept out of the signal pathway. I have no experience of rack tuners.
Remember, that to be most effective and accurate, a tuner should be first in the signal pathway (ie no effect pedals between your guitar and the tuner). Tuners will work if not first, but they get a much clearer signal to work with if they are first.
I also find a volume pedal very useful for violin-type swells. I would recommend the George Dennis GD20 or GD10 - they are the best out there, at that price range. You might struggle to pick one up used though.
Good luck !
Alan
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I agree get an SD1 or a Bad Monkey instead of the DS1. Horrible, horrible pedal.
I wouldn't say the DS-1 is horrible at all. Stock, it is an alright pedal but a Keeley modified DS-1 Ultra is one of the best OD/Dist pedals out there!
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I'm also looking for a good tuner which can be bought for a decent amount of money - preferably a rack one, and if they exist, a rack or stompbox metronome that can tick through the amp - that would be superb.
I've got a Korg DTR-2000 Rack tuner which I bought from SoundsLive a year or so ago:
http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~Korg---DTR-2000~ID~1822.asp
You can see a pic of it in my rack in the Post Your Rig thread here: http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8686&start=231
I just wish the lights were red, it'd be like having K.I.T.T. in yer rack. ;)
They also do a cheaper one called the DTR-1000. Can't remember the difference off-hand.
I'm currently thinking about some form of OD or DS pedal to drive my pre-amp harder on occasion, but I'm not sure which yet.
Muttley
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I didn't think the DS-1 was bad stock either, I actually thought it was better than the SD-1 if we're comparing them in their 'stock' forms.
I've modded both my SD-1 and DS-1 and they're much better now, it's just a process of tuning them in.
:twisted:
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Any suggestions for a suitable gain and volume boost for under £70 2nd hand?
Want more sustain, bit more volume and a bit more gain.
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For the tuner, Korg DT-10 is really good, I've had mine for a few years now. Was playing up at band practise last week which is a bit worrying, but its worked flawlessly up until now. Its more accurate than the Boss apparently, but doesnt have the daisy chain feature which the boss does.
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Any suggestions for a suitable gain and volume boost for under £70 2nd hand?
Want more sustain, bit more volume and a bit more gain.
CS-3 Compressor sustainer, if you boost the volume of your amp you will also boost the gain of your amp. Very cheap and simple. Alternative would be a good wah pedal which might even be a smart deal if you dont have one allready, in that case you will get the sustain from the overdrive you add trough the wah, a Morley would work nicely i think.
Really usefull stuff to have this, maybe even a good idea to buy both and experiment a bit, on the second hand market i think you can find both for under 70 pound bit it will be hard.
And before i forget, a DS-1 can be a superb booster if you want a more distortion type boost.
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K, My new morley PVW just came through the door - Bought it to work as a volume pedal, and it works fine. It also has a wah on it, which has been reviewed quite badly it seems, but it's a perfectly nice sounding wah, albeit a bit weak when you pile the gain on.
Still planning to buy a bad horsie for my wah, but this is a nice addition for an impulse buy, the wah on it is perfectly useful at tastefull levels of gain - Anything upto Satch.
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If you allready are playing with alot of distortion you should use a volume wah or compressor/sustainer they will boost your signal and will add that extra bit of drive and sustain naturally. Boosting a metal tone with an SD-1 will sound horrawlfull IMO.
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I say sod everything, and save for a TC Electonics G-System :D
Or get pedals you need :lol:
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I say sod everything, and save for a TC Electonics G-System :D
Or get pedals you need :lol:
I was contemplating buying a G Major and a midi pedal board - But we'll see :P
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I really want that G-System, just looks so good, and seems to do everything!
I just have one question, I don't know if anyone here knows, but I think I read somewhere that it can hook up to the footswitch jack socket on the amp, and change channels, so like, you can store channel changes in the presets. Is this true?
If it is, I'll need to get one :)
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I really want that G-System, just looks so good, and seems to do everything!
I just have one question, I don't know if anyone here knows, but I think I read somewhere that it can hook up to the footswitch jack socket on the amp, and change channels, so like, you can store channel changes in the presets. Is this true?
If it is, I'll need to get one :)
Only if you have a midi amp surely.
So, any Diezel, all the top ENGLs, the VHTs, I think some Mesas, alot of more hi-tech boutique amps.
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Oh :( I thought you could just hook a standard jack from one of the inputs to the socket for the footswitch. Its a MArshall DSL I'm using.
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Another thing to knock off the list, just bought a Behringer BTR2000 racktuner on Ebay, has a metronome function aswell, I think this'll be a half decent buy, even if it turns out to be tone sucking.
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Just won a 10 output power supply and a Bad Horsie.
Only the Small Stone, the Sonic Maximizer, and the SD-1 left!
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I think the G system does have jack switching, so you can switch amp channels.
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I think the G system does have jack switching, so you can switch amp channels.
Not if the multi-channel amp has only 1 input, surely?
Or could you put the G-System as a amp channel foot-switch via a normal jack cable?
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The G system switches amp channels using a standard guitar cable, not midi. I've just ordered mine at the weekend, woohhooo!!!
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The G system switches amp channels using a standard guitar cable, not midi. I've just ordered mine at the weekend, woohhooo!!!
Ooooh la la
This thing seems to be pure magic!
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The G system switches amp channels using a standard guitar cable, not midi. I've just ordered mine at the weekend, woohhooo!!!
Ooooh la la
This thing seems to be pure magic!
It really looks more and more tempting... first I need a guitar with a trem though!
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first I need a guitar with a trem though!
blasphemy :P
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The G system switches amp channels using a standard guitar cable, not midi. I've just ordered mine at the weekend, woohhooo!!!
Ooooh la la
This thing seems to be pure magic!
It really looks more and more tempting... first I need a guitar with a trem though!
"first I need a guitar with a trem-o-lo" ? :D
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The G system switches amp channels using a standard guitar cable, not midi. I've just ordered mine at the weekend, woohhooo!!!
Ooooh la la
This thing seems to be pure magic!
It really looks more and more tempting... first I need a guitar with a trem though!
"first I need a guitar with a trem-o-lo" ? :D
That's spelt 'vibrato' or 'whammy'. 'Tremolo' is volume based.
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The G system switches amp channels using a standard guitar cable, not midi. I've just ordered mine at the weekend, woohhooo!!!
Ooooh la la
This thing seems to be pure magic!
It really looks more and more tempting... first I need a guitar with a trem though!
"first I need a guitar with a trem-o-lo" ? :D
That's spelt 'vibrato' or 'whammy'. 'Tremolo' is volume based.
Blame Fender, they called their tremolo arms vibrato and their amp tremolo became vibrato.
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My joke comes from "Trem though" sounding like "Tremolo".
Give me a break people =(
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My joke comes from "Trem though" sounding like "Tremolo".
Give me a break people =(
Well I thought it was funny... Just pointing out that it was Leo Fender's fault that loads of people mistake tremolo for vibrato. What a tw@t eh?
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Oh :( I thought you could just hook a standard jack from one of the inputs to the socket for the footswitch. Its a MArshall DSL I'm using.
You can on the G-Major. Depending on the type of footswitch the amp uses you may need to make a custom cable, but the manual covers all that. :)
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A power block which I bought on Ebay arrived today - Rather impressed. Very small, very tidy - 10x 9v output at 1000mA, since I don't own 10 pedals, it seems like a good investment aswell.
Only thing I can fault it on is that the power leads are a bit short, you could ofcourse get extenders. and it should be fine on a small pedalboard, aslong as you keep it in the middle, each power lead is about 30cm end to end.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270185389719&mfe=sidebar
For those that are interested - The picture is a bit out of proportion.
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My joke comes from "Trem though" sounding like "Tremolo".
Give me a break people =(
Well I thought it was funny... Just pointing out that it was Leo Fender's fault that loads of people mistake tremolo for vibrato. What a tw@t eh?
are you sure that isn't Vibrato for Tremolo? :wink:
And Noodle...; that was a really contrived pun as far as I could tell. Perhaps it's your accent.
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My joke comes from "Trem though" sounding like "Tremolo".
Give me a break people =(
Well I thought it was funny... Just pointing out that it was Leo Fender's fault that loads of people mistake tremolo for vibrato. What a tw@t eh?
are you sure that isn't Vibrato for Tremolo? :wink:
And Noodle...; that was a really contrived pun as far as I could tell. Perhaps it's your accent.
:S
Are there any accents that pronounce Though differenth than "lo"
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A power block which I bought on Ebay arrived today - Rather impressed. Very small, very tidy - 10x 9v output at 1000mA, since I don't own 10 pedals, it seems like a good investment aswell.
Only thing I can fault it on is that the power leads are a bit short, you could ofcourse get extenders. and it should be fine on a small pedalboard, aslong as you keep it in the middle, each power lead is about 30cm end to end.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270185389719&mfe=sidebar
For those that are interested - The picture is a bit out of proportion.
So no G-System :P
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My joke comes from "Trem though" sounding like "Tremolo".
Give me a break people =(
Well I thought it was funny... Just pointing out that it was Leo Fender's fault that loads of people mistake tremolo for vibrato. What a tw@t eh?
are you sure that isn't Vibrato for Tremolo? :wink:
And Noodle...; that was a really contrived pun as far as I could tell. Perhaps it's your accent.
:S
Are there any accents that pronounce Though differenth than "lo"
Mine, I suppose. Going through it it does sort of work but I'm not in the habit of reading things aloud and spotting things like that.
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My joke comes from "Trem though" sounding like "Tremolo".
Give me a break people =(
Well I thought it was funny... Just pointing out that it was Leo Fender's fault that loads of people mistake tremolo for vibrato. What a tw@t eh?
are you sure that isn't Vibrato for Tremolo? :wink:
And Noodle...; that was a really contrived pun as far as I could tell. Perhaps it's your accent.
:S
Are there any accents that pronounce Though differenth than "lo"
Don't worry, I enjoyed it :P :lol:
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Bad horsie arrived - Needs a bit of oil on the spring due to squeaking, and it's pretty damn noisy when it's pressed down - is it meant to do this, or is there a fault?
Any pedal builders/modders got a clue?
Other than that it's great - Looks good, feels good, great range, and great sound - Other than the noise.
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Bad horsie arrived - Needs a bit of oil on the spring due to squeaking, and it's pretty damn noisy when it's pressed down - is it meant to do this, or is there a fault?
Any pedal builders/modders got a clue?
Other than that it's great - Looks good, feels good, great range, and great sound - Other than the noise.
Most wah pedals in my experience create large amounts of noise when active. If you're playing whilst it's happening it shouldn't be noticeable though. Just curious; is the morley the same as any other wah apart from the switch and pot technologies. For example, could you replace the inductor with a halo to get a sweeter sound?
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Bad horsie arrived - Needs a bit of oil on the spring due to squeaking, and it's pretty damn noisy when it's pressed down - is it meant to do this, or is there a fault?
Any pedal builders/modders got a clue?
Other than that it's great - Looks good, feels good, great range, and great sound - Other than the noise.
Most wah pedals in my experience create large amounts of noise when active. If you're playing whilst it's happening it shouldn't be noticeable though. Just curious; is the morley the same as any other wah apart from the switch and pot technologies. For example, could you replace the inductor with a halo to get a sweeter sound?
It's not quite like any other wah, the range is huge, and it sounds superb.
And I believe other than the optical pot, the internals are the same as any other wah, cept different values, but presumeably you could mod it.
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Hey,
I have two old effects (old dunlop wah(the hendrix one) and old marshall stompbox(shred master)) which create alot of noise when NOT activated, they are also noisy when active but alot less.
I first figured i had the wrong power supply so i went out to get a 9DC one which is required, but nothing changed.
Anyone have a clue?
Thnx in advance, Henk
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Worked out the noise problem - The guy had sent it with a battery in, which I never noticed, and had absent mindedly used an adapter for the pedal aswell.
After taking the battery out it's much better.
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Behringer racktuner turned up - Works fine - Recommended.
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Behringer racktuner turned up - Works fine - Recommended.
what's the bypass like?
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Behringer racktuner turned up - Works fine - Recommended.
what's the bypass like?
Doubt it's true bypass, but it's pretty damn quiet, and haven't felt any real loss of tone.