Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Joe Dorcia on August 07, 2005, 01:54:52 PM
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I just got my IRISH TOURS! I got a bridge and middle with no neck pup and only a 4-way switch (with series and parallel options), no tone/volume on my USA 3-colour start - nice n classy
My pickups got here yesterday and i wired them up today. Unfortunately, they arrived at 9:45 am testerday so i didnt have time to wire them up and restring my strat before going to band practise at 9:50am. lol. However, i played them today and WOW!, they are radical! They're thick and warm and still have plenty of attack. I had to take some gain off my amp as they seem to be higher output than my apaches. The combinations of the 4-way are ace, and help make the pickups even more dynamically responsive. In parallel they are so sweet and lyrical with a nice bite and no volume drop because the middle pickup isnt RW/RP. The bridge pickup on it's own sound great too, usually its a bit to harsh for me but it sounds amazing. Overall they are absolutely phenominal and are just begging to be played loud.
I play through a few pedals then into my Marshall DSL 50 w/ 1960A Cab. The Irish Tours scream when distorted, they are lyrical on clean. With my Voodoo lab sparkle drive they break up like a tube screamer or overdriven fender tweed - ACE, i will get some clips done sometime over the next few weeks with my 5 BKP guitars (i lie, 2 are my bros) and get some picks up on here.
Thanks TIM, Ol and STEVE at BKP - ROCK n ROCK BABY!
Joe
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I would be greatly interested if you could compare Irish Tours and Apaches.
You gave some informations but I would be interested to hear more.
Ced777
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I've got a set of apaches in my strat. Can't wait to hear yours so I can compare.
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Joe, sounds like you love the ITs! I can assure you that in the neck position, I've not heard a finer pickup. (Tho I ordered a Trilogy for the neck of the new project I'm working on)
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Not to hijack this thread, but I will anyway. TO, can you describe the Irish Tour neck sound? Is it in the Dave Murray realm? The Hot Rails is close to getting it with my Jackson, but it doesn't quite. Can't describe it, but it's not IT.
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Matt, I can describe it in quite some detail, as I've owned and extensively used both Hot Rails and Joe Barden Strat Deluxe neck pickups.
I was a hardcore rail pickup advocate until a couple of months ago, when I installed the Irish Tour.
I would say that the main difference that you get with a true single coil is what I would call focus: there is a pinpoint precision to the notes that you can't get when you sample the string in two places, which is essentially what a rail pup does (as well as mini-buckers), even tho they are very close together.
The noise was always a factor to me with a single coil, but I was amazed at how quiet a scatterwound pup is compared to a machine wound. The reason, according to Tim, is because a scatterwound pup doesn't form the same 'lumps' in capacitance which plague a machine-wound pup. (I hope I'm getting that correct)
Now, before you think that it's all attack, I can also say that the neck SC has a sweetness that you can't get with rail pup; rail pups are what I would call an imitation single coil sound; they attempt to mimic the tone, but without the noise.
I can describe it like this: modern movies can depict vast armies and other eye-popping delights via CGI; however you never fully suspend disbelief. Image that with guitar tone now: a rail pup is like a CGI single coil pup: you get all that quiet and an amost believeable single coil imitation.
Personally, I'll take the models from Empire Strikes Back any day over the computer-generated ships from Episode III.
Hope you find that helpful, or at least coherent! LOL
As for the Dave Murray question: This is the tone I wish Murray would have!! He's 1/2 way there, now that he's using Wayne guitars, but he needs to complete the circuit! (To use another Star Wars reference)
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I'm with you. The models on Empire Strikes Back were waaay better than the computer generated stuff of today.
I think that makes some sense. Food for thought I suppose. I'll wait for the Trilogy Suite review.
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hmm I'm really considering doing up my strat like a "proper" strat instead of a "hot rodded shred style", I hope you can get some recordings done soon!
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I should be able to record on tuesday or wednesday next week. I will do direct comparisions of the Apaches and IT's (obviously without the neck pup coz I DONT HAVE NONE!) and also some clips of my Black Dog bucker and BKP-90 as well as my bros Tele's with Yardbird neck and Piledriver neck.
I will also do some nice distortion and overdrive clips n stuff, let me know if you want a specific tone, my DSL 50 can do pretty much anything so lemme know. If you want any particular songs I will have a go too :)
Joe
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If you want any particular songs I will have a go too
Eruption!
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If you want any particular songs I will have a go too
Eruption!
:lol: :lol: You evil b@st@rd! :twisted: