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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: octavio_amzer on October 31, 2007, 04:10:49 PM

Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: octavio_amzer on October 31, 2007, 04:10:49 PM
One that pairs well with the high output bridge pickups.

Looking for beautiful cleans and shred to pair with my Nailbomb Bridge and Miracle Man bridge but... must excel in cleans rather than shred.
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: il˙ti on October 31, 2007, 04:16:17 PM
Abraxas  :P
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: MDV on October 31, 2007, 04:36:15 PM
Crawler!!!

Relatively meaty wind on A4: the cleans blew me away!!

Loud enough to balance a warpig, powrfull enough for full throttle shred. But its cleans are stunning.
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: octavio_amzer on October 31, 2007, 07:03:31 PM
mmm... abraxas or crawlers?...

any other suggestion to consider?
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: wintersun on October 31, 2007, 07:13:27 PM
Quote from: octavio_amzer
mmm... abraxas or crawlers?...

any other suggestion to consider?


Well, according to what I heard, they are the same PUs, just different name, lol. So you can just pick a name you like better :D

Crawler sounds more cool to me :)

As for other suggestions... I doubt any pickup would be as good both with cleans and shred as Crawlers, but you can always ask Tim. Even if he tells you Cold sweat, trust me, you better go for it. He will make it sound the way you want it.
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: octavio_amzer on October 31, 2007, 07:29:20 PM
so... I have 2 guitars

One with a Miracle Man Bridge with Cold Sweat Neck

and this New one will have Nailbomb Bridge...

so it would be a good idea to pair it with the Abraxas neck?

this guitar is still modern sounding but... it must have some vintage attitude on it.

the idea is to have 4 different pickups on the 2 guitars but... still be able to make a good match.

I love Bens clips with Abraxas neck tone... so then in simple terms:

will the Abraxas sound kick ass with my Nailbomb bridge?
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: MDV on October 31, 2007, 08:12:17 PM
Wintersuns right: trust Tim. I spoke to him about a pickup set once and he suggested painkillers. I was kinda thinking nailbombs; he said that was another option, but I got them and it wasnt my bag. I got the PKs instead and they were exactly what I wanted in the first place :lol:

The crawler is darker (but still very clear, as all BKs are) and thicker than a cold sweat. The cleans are rich, full and open, the lead sounds lack the CS mid-c--ked-wah hump that makes it so perfect for metal leads, but its got it under the bonnet while being very dynamic and hot-vintage. PAF sound, but with more oomph if you want to use it.

VHII might be another option, too. Clearer, more highs, but still 'refined' sound that cleans up very well.
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: octavio_amzer on October 31, 2007, 08:18:32 PM
but the Crawler is almost the same as the Abraxas?..

or what is the main difference?
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: MDV on October 31, 2007, 08:23:32 PM
I have no idea. Never played an abraxis, and havent really paid much attention to what people say about them
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: wintersun on October 31, 2007, 08:41:35 PM
Quote from: octavio_amzer
but the Crawler is almost the same as the Abraxas?..

or what is the main difference?



I'm telling you: I heard they are THE SAME, just with a different name... lok here and search for Philly Qs post:

http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10090

This topic is a true example how someone can go wrong with choosing a pickup, lol. :D 8)

Tim said "COLD SWEAT is best for you!".. But noooooo - I had to be "smart" and go for The Mule :D
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: pagan7 on October 31, 2007, 08:56:26 PM
I'd have to say that the perfect partner for a nailbomb bridge pup is.................a nailbomb neck pup  :twisted: but I'm biased. The calibrated nailbombs on my RGT are my all time fave pups....especially with independant tone and volume controls and a phase reversal switch.....clean up a treat  8)
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: il˙ti on October 31, 2007, 10:14:07 PM
To clarify: Crawler neck and Abraxas neck is the same. The reason I said Abraxas is that it's cheaper when you order it. :P
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: MDV on October 31, 2007, 10:17:01 PM
Abraxis then!

Clear it that they're the same with Tim first though (HTH said they are a few hundred ohms apart in another thread, and he knows his stuff, but its good to be certain)
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: octavio_amzer on October 31, 2007, 11:35:03 PM
Quote from: MDV
Abraxis then!

Clear it that they're the same with Tim first though (HTH said they are a few hundred ohms apart in another thread, and he knows his stuff, but its good to be certain)


Talking about it with Tim

will be back when he answers  8-)
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: Philly Q on November 01, 2007, 01:26:23 AM
Quote from: wintersun
Quote from: octavio_amzer
but the Crawler is almost the same as the Abraxas?..

or what is the main difference?


I'm telling you: I heard they are THE SAME, just with a different name... lok here and search for Philly Qs post


Quote from: MDV
Clear it that they're the same with Tim first though (HTH said they are a few hundred ohms apart in another thread, and he knows his stuff, but its good to be certain)

That comment by HTH was a comparison between the Crawler and Mule neck pickups, in this thread (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10090):

"are you aware that the Crawler neck pickup is just a Mule wound a tiny bit hotter? (only 400ohms Tim told me)."

Ignoring what I said, here's a quote from an older thread.  See Carlaz's post at the top of the second page (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2107&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=abraxas+crawler+neck&start=15):

"turns out the Abraxas and Crawler use the same neck, DC7.6K Alnico IV (Tims says)."

That was an old thread, so as I said before the specs may have changed.  We really need the updated specs on the site, especially for the neck models.  :wink:
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: wintersun on November 01, 2007, 01:30:19 AM
Quote from: Philly Q
We really need the updated specs on the site, especially for the neck models.  :wink:


I know! We're gonna hack into the site, and update it ourselves :D:D:D:D:D:D

Who's with me? :D
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: octavio_amzer on November 01, 2007, 04:39:18 AM
Quote from: wintersun
Quote from: Philly Q
We really need the updated specs on the site, especially for the neck models.  :wink:


I know! We're gonna hack into the site, and update it ourselves :D:D:D:D:D:D

Who's with me? :D


I'm with you!!

we should atleast make a sticky of the popular pickups with a description :?

I have been waiting ALOT for the "update" of the site
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: MDV on November 01, 2007, 01:59:28 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: wintersun
Quote from: octavio_amzer
but the Crawler is almost the same as the Abraxas?..

or what is the main difference?


I'm telling you: I heard they are THE SAME, just with a different name... lok here and search for Philly Qs post


Quote from: MDV
Clear it that they're the same with Tim first though (HTH said they are a few hundred ohms apart in another thread, and he knows his stuff, but its good to be certain)

That comment by HTH was a comparison between the Crawler and Mule neck pickups, in this thread (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10090):

"are you aware that the Crawler neck pickup is just a Mule wound a tiny bit hotter? (only 400ohms Tim told me)."

Ignoring what I said, here's a quote from an older thread.  See Carlaz's post at the top of the second page (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2107&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=abraxas+crawler+neck&start=15):

"turns out the Abraxas and Crawler use the same neck, DC7.6K Alnico IV (Tims says)."

That was an old thread, so as I said before the specs may have changed.  We really need the updated specs on the site, especially for the neck models.  :wink:


Ahhhhhhh! Thanks for clearing that up, phil, youre exceedingly right!

I'm interested to see what Tim says now...
Title: Cold Sweat Neck pickup alternative?
Post by: carlaz on November 01, 2007, 04:01:40 PM
My quote from Tim saying the Abraxas/Crawler neck pups are the same is from an email from him to me on 07 January 2006.  So, things might have changed since -- but it was true then, at least! :)

The site has been due for an upgrade with more info for some years now, no? ;)