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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: CJ on November 01, 2007, 03:38:49 PM

Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: CJ on November 01, 2007, 03:38:49 PM
well, i really don't play this guitar all that much, i don't quite like the feel of it. Anyway, for fun i listed it on craigslist with a selling price of $1000. after one day i got 2 responses. Now, i bought this guitar for $750 off of craigslist. Is this guitar more valuable than i thought? or should i hurry up and sell this bitch?
Title: Re: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: Antag on November 01, 2007, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: callme.nasty
should i hurry up and sell this bitch?

You don't really like it & have the opportunity to make a small profit on it.  Do you even need to ask? ;)
Title: Re: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: CJ on November 01, 2007, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: Antag
Quote from: callme.nasty
should i hurry up and sell this bitch?

You don't really like it & have the opportunity to make a small profit on it.  Do you even need to ask? ;)


i'd say no. but you never know, if you can make more, do it. just wondering if i could be getting even more.
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: indysmith on November 01, 2007, 06:01:26 PM
i'd sell it, people on Harmony Central reviews have been paying about $400-700 lately for em.
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: badgermark on November 01, 2007, 06:06:22 PM
Check the ebay completed listings too, usually pretty good indicator of how much things are worth.
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: CJ on November 01, 2007, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: badgermark
Check the ebay completed listings too, usually pretty good indicator of how much things are worth.


how do i check the completed listings?
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: CJ on November 01, 2007, 06:41:01 PM
here's a response i got from someone i've been talking with about buying:

    Thanks for your response,am ok with the price and
    the conditions..I would have love to come and look at it
    its just that time wont permit me cos am very busy
    man... .i will be paying through a certified cashier check
    and i will be responsible for the shippment ok and the
    pickup.As soon as you receive the payment and it clears
    in your bank you will be deducting your actual fund and
    send the remaining amount to my shipping agent via
    money gram or western union money transfer.They will be the one to do
    the pick-up at your place ok..I hope i can trust you
    with my balance.
    Do get back to me with the following detailson the
    payment ( Cashiers Check):
    1.Name to be issue to...
    2.Contact Address(City,State,Zip code,Country):
    3.Contact telephone numberhome,cell or work...)
    Do get back to me as soon as posible with this details for
    payment to be made out to you immediately..
    Thanks hope to hear back from you soon



what the hell does all that nonsense mean, and does it sound fishy? i'm not planning on getting scammed here. i've heard about fraudulent checks and transfers on craigslist.
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: 99_not_out on November 01, 2007, 07:36:00 PM
Dude, that does sound a bit fishy ... somewhat too-good-to-be-true whilst also being over complicated.

A quick google on the most suspicious phrase "i will be paying through a certified cashier check and i will be responsible for the shippment" turfed up this (top match):

http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

I'd be very wary of that request, and TBH if I were you I would ignore it.
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: CJ on November 01, 2007, 07:45:49 PM
Quote from: 99_not_out
Dude, that does sound a bit fishy ... somewhat too-good-to-be-true whilst also being over complicated.

A quick google on the most suspicious phrase "i will be paying through a certified cashier check and i will be responsible for the shippment" turfed up this (top match):

http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

I'd be very wary of that request, and TBH if I were you I would ignore it.


i told him to pay with paypal. i'm sure he probably won't respond.
i still have someone else that was inquiring though.
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: CJ on November 01, 2007, 08:00:06 PM
yep, its a scam:

from criagslist about scams:

# you receive an email (examples below) offering to buy your item, or rent your apartment, sight unseen.
# cashier's check is offered for your sale item, as a deposit for an apartment, or for just about anything else of value.
# value of cashier's check often far exceeds your item - scammer offers to "trust" you, and asks you to wire the balance via money transfer service
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: Jonesy76 on November 01, 2007, 08:18:07 PM
That's a typical Nigerian Scam.........

They try doing it to me at any time I've tried selling one of my guitars via on-line sales websites.  For every properly interested buyer I get about 20+ e-mails from Nigerian scamsters.

The trick is that they pay you via an EXCEEDINGLY good forged cheque, and you then cash that cheque into your account.  The cheque is a very good forgery so it'll clear into your account.  They then say that they will handle the shippment (Why?  FedEx, UPS, DHL etc etc are exceedingly good at delivering things worldwide) and the cheque they've sent you is always for more than you wanted for the item.  This difference is to be paid via cheque to the person who comes to collect the item from you.

What then happens is that the person who's bank account has been debited with the forged cheque complains to their bank that they never signed the cheque.  The bank then refunds their cash and goes looking for where the money got to, and therefore takes the money back from your account.  You've actually signed the cheque you gave to the scam artists, and as this whole process with the bank reclaiming the money takes so long your cheque will have been cashed, and the money taken out of whatever account it was paid into.

You've then lost your guitar, your cheque for the item, and you have no record of where anything went because you didn't ship the item yourself to a recognised address.  All you have is an e-mail address which will always be a webmail address, and will always die straight after they get your guitar.

They're scum and they've taken a lot of money from a lot of people, and I only avoided a similar scam on a racing bike I tried to sell via the sales part of the British Cycling Federations webpages because of one of my firends who works for the local plod.  He tipped me off, and we tried to keep the scammer on the end of the hook by pretending to go along with him, only to find nothing to get them on in the end.
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: CJ on November 01, 2007, 08:54:17 PM
damn, it appears both replies were scams. The second inquiry was sent at the exact same time as the first, so i'm assuming they're both scams. It sure would've been nice to have that money...
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: 38thBeatle on November 01, 2007, 11:41:45 PM
You had a lucky escape there, I have just seen this thread and as I was reading it I was saying nooooooooooo. As Jonesy says, a lot of these originate in Nigeria. Google scambait  and you will find a great website all about scammers.
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 01, 2007, 11:55:13 PM
It's always a double whammy
You end up not getting paid for the item AND you end up paying the carriage too- with no way of tracing it!

If it sounds too good to be true - guess what?

It probably is!!
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: CJ on November 02, 2007, 12:38:03 AM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
It's always a double whammy
You end up not getting paid for the item AND you end up paying the carriage too- with no way of tracing it!

If it sounds too good to be true - guess what?

It probably is!!


yeah i thought it sounded too good to be true, but when you think of that, you usually think of scams when you're buying stuff, not selling it.

well if anyone wants this guitar, let me know!
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: CJ on November 04, 2007, 06:18:10 PM
any of this stuff worth anything?
Black Gibson Melody Maker
2. White Gibson Melody Maker
3. Fender Jazz bass made in U.S.A.,sunburst, 60th anniversary w/ hardshell case
4. Eddie Van Halen Kramer 5150 red,white,black stripe project guitar...pretty cool
5. Hartke HA3500 bass amp (rack mount) with case
6. Ampeg PR15H heavy duty bass cabinet with a 15" speaker handles 800 watts
7. 1973 Fender Twin Reverb 2x12 100 watts, Silverface, all tube
8. 1972 Fender Musicmaster amp 12 watts, 12" speaker, all tube
9. Pedals. Ibanez TS 9, Boss DS1, Boss Blues driver, Boss Compression, Boss,GE7 EQ.
    Boss Flanger, Boss Digital tuner, Digitech Tone driver, Ibanez Flanger/chorus, Ibanez Smashbox distorsion. Digitech RP 100 effects prossessor, Zoom Bass pedal effects.
10. 5 guitar stand/rack
11.  Tascam 4 track recorder. Cassette tape
12.  1975 Fender Deluxe reverb All tube, 22 watts,  single 12" speaker
13.  Shure sm 57 mic w/ cable
14. Shure sm 58 mic w/ cable
15. 2 supralux mics w/ cable
16. 1 Memorex mic w/ cable
17. 2 mic stands, one straight, one boom type
18. Ampeg 1980,  GA115 guitar amp with a single 15" speaker 150 watts, solid state

this guy wants to know if i want to make any trades. i don't particularly want any of this stuff, but if i can get something worth more i could always sell. I'm interested in the EVH guitar, but it could very well be a piece of cr@p.
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: Will on November 04, 2007, 06:31:05 PM
personally I would value my XR1 over any of that stuff. I'm sure you could trade for most of that stuff, and then sell it on, then make a profit though.
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: CJ on November 04, 2007, 06:48:50 PM
Quote from: Will
personally I would value my XR1 over any of that stuff. I'm sure you could trade for most of that stuff, and then sell it on, then make a profit though.


i asked him how much cash he would offer. i may take a good bit of money plus a few things i liked there. he said he had some other stuff to offer to. I definitely won't sell this unless i get a good bit for it. i don't need to sell it and i know its fairly rare. i just don't see the point in having it if i don't really play it.

you want another one will?
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: Will on November 04, 2007, 07:48:35 PM
Its very tempting, but funds at the moment don't favour another one  :(
Title: gibson xr-1, whats it worth?
Post by: noodleplugerine on November 04, 2007, 08:08:38 PM
Trading guitars can be very enjoyable - You get a new guitar to muck around on, experience on many different styles of guitars, and then if you don't like it, just trade it on.

And it's all essentially free.
Title: Gibson XR1
Post by: skip on November 24, 2007, 08:49:38 AM
Im interested in the XR-1 if its in really good condition...I just sent a message to your message board account....Im no Nigerian Scammer just a redneck from Texas.  I can pay by PayPal if a price can be agreed upon.  I need some detail pictures...thanks