Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: Alpo on November 01, 2007, 03:54:51 PM
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I got my BKP's in the mail today. I took my 1527 to the shop to have them installed. The guy just called me and said that the BKP's won't fit in the guitar, and he won't route it because there's not enough wood. I'm picking up the guitar tomorrow, and I thought I'd check for myself to see if they fit (just to be sure). I already sent an email to Tim, but I thought I'd ask here, too. If they have to be routed, I guess I'll have to return the pups. I don't know anyone who I'd trust to do it. :(
So, have you Ibanez 7 owners had to route your pup cavities to fit BKP's?
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Hi! Welcome to the forum!
I have the same guitar as you do, and my BKPs work just fine :) But I'm afraid not much into the technical stuff, so I really don't know how to explain it to you. My friend did the job, and I remember him having some problems as well. But later it turned up to be quite easy. It's just that none of us had installed a pickup before lol.
I'm sure someone will give you more info than me, so stay put, and don't you sell those BKPs, you might regret it :D
What BKP's are they anyways?
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They're a Nailbomb bridge/Cold Sweat neck combo. I really, really don't want to return them, so I'd really love to find a solution. Do you know if your pickups fit into the cavities or did your friend have to modify the guitar to fit them?
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...he won't route it because there's not enough wood
Those words imply that the existing rout isn't deep enough rather than long/wide enough.
Looking at some pics of a 1527 (don't have one myself), I guess you needed to order short legs & triangular feet...
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By the way, Wintersun, are you a member at sevenstring.org? I hang around there a lot.
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...he won't route it because there's not enough wood
Those words imply that the existing rout isn't deep enough rather than long/wide enough.
Looking at some pics of a 1527 (don't have one myself), I guess you needed to order short legs & triangular feet...
I believe the box had the "short legs" box ticked, and the feet looked like a perfect fit for the routes.
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They're a Nailbomb bridge/Cold Sweat neck combo. I really, really don't want to return them, so I'd really love to find a solution. Do you know if your pickups fit into the cavities or did your friend have to modify the guitar to fit them?
They fit perfectly. You just need to use your screws from your stock pickups. and improvise with the springs, to be able to adjust the hight. I just cut the springs I got to a 5 mm, and placed them with those stock screws. Works great
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And yes, I am a member at sevenstring.org :)
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They fit perfectly. You just need to use your screws from your stock pickups. and improvise with the springs, to be able to adjust the hight. I just cut the springs I got to a 5 mm, and placed them with those stock screws. Works great
Thanks. I'll take a look at them when I get my guitar back tomorrow. This whole thing has me kinda confused. Maybe the guys at the shop just want me to buy Dimarzio's from them, the guy actually said over the phone that I could order Dimarzio's that fit perfectly. :roll:
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They're a Nailbomb bridge/Cold Sweat neck combo. I really, really don't want to return them, so I'd really love to find a solution. Do you know if your pickups fit into the cavities or did your friend have to modify the guitar to fit them?
They fit perfectly. You just need to use your screws from your stock pickups. and improvise with the springs, to be able to adjust the hight. I just cut the springs I got to a 5 mm, and placed them with those stock screws. Works great
Here's what I had in mind, lol (those paint pics are getting quite popular around here :D):
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Thanks for the help! What year was your 1527 built?
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Thanks for the help! What year was your 1527 built?
2006, straight from japan, ahahaha :D
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Thanks for the help! What year was your 1527 built?
2006, straight from japan, ahahaha :D
Mine was made the same year. Had to wait 2 months to get it! Unless they suddenly changed the depth of the routes during 2006, I should be okay then. :D
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Well I had to wait almost 9 months ahahahahahaa
Well I hope you figure it out :D Good luck
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Just got an email back from Tim. He said he has an RG1527 and that the pickups fit fine. :D I don't know what the guys at the store are smoking then!
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Just got an email back from Tim. He said he has an RG1527 and that the pickups fit fine. :D I don't know what the guys at the store are smoking then!
Ahahhahaha, f*** them! :D Find a frend who is into electronics, and let him do it for you....
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I think I'll do it myself. I have to learn someday! I've done some work on the electronics in my guitars before and installed an EMG. I'll just take it slowly, and it shouldn't be a problem.
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I think I'll do it myself. I have to learn someday! I've done some work on the electronics in my guitars before and installed an EMG. I'll just take it slowly, and it shouldn't be a problem.
It isn't brain surgery, & concerns about the pickup physically fitting in the rout aside (you'll soon see if it will or won't), there shouldn't be any cutting/sanding/drilling/routing involved - i.e. everything you do should be reversible.
The only thing you can possibly "break" is the pot if you heat it too much with the soldering iron, but even that's hardly a disaster - new pots cost peanuts....
Good luck! :)
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i got the short leg ones , they fit fine in my rg7620
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I got my guitar back, and they said the mounting "ears" (?) are the problem. Here's a pic of the IBZ pup:
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5963/ibzv7ev3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
And here's one of the BK's:
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7721/bkpgr6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
I put the Nailbomb in the cavity, and it looks to me like it fits guite well (this is about the same height I had my IBZ pups):
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3037/bkpheightwt3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
I'm going to email Tim and ask him if that's a problem.
I measured them, and the BKP is slightly (~3mm) taller when measured from the polepieces than the IBZ. But the IBZ has some kinda foam on it which makes it about the same height as the BKP. The guy had put the IBZ pups back about as far in as they go, and they were far lower than I used to have them. SO I don't think the BKP's should be a problem.
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That looks fine - it fits!!
be nice to have the bit more adjustment room you would get from having the ends of the pickup route slightly deeper but i dont think it will be needed.
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Tim said they should be fine. Though the neck pickup is a little high. The high e barely clears it on the 24th fret. But my dad's got some good tools if I need to route a few mm's, so all should be well. :D
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The pickups are in but not wired yet. They fit fine, although the neck pickup is pretty damn close to the strings.
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I always imagined that it would be the polepiece screws sticking out the back of the pickup that might be the problem.
Dimarzios dont have the pole screws going far through and the BKPs do stick out a bit more- this is where you would need to rout the cavity more
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and the leg section might need to go a bit lower - its not a difficult job for someone who knows how to use a router. Probably best not to let that guitar tech see it again if this was an issue for him
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Yeah, I doubt I'll be taking my guitar there anymore. This really put a bad taste in my mouth. If I can put the pups in with very little work, I don't know why a tech couldn't do it. The only cavity that might need a little bit of routing is the neck one. And there's plenty of wood under there. The bridge pup is almost perfect now. I just have to wire them in. :D