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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: AdamB on November 04, 2007, 06:24:54 PM

Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: AdamB on November 04, 2007, 06:24:54 PM
So, if you were going to get a poweramp and pre amp instead of just a head, for something quite heavy, what would you get?

Also, how do the stereo inputs on your cab work with them? i heard you can split the highs and lows?

Any help would be great, thanks
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: Woogie on November 04, 2007, 09:04:13 PM
Mesa 20/20 or 50/50 power amp and maybe a Tech 21 PSA-1 or ADA MP-1.
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 04, 2007, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: Woogie
Mesa 20/20 or 50/50 power amp and maybe a Tech 21 PSA-1 or ADA MP-1.


+1
Or try the ENGL preamps or the Mesa ones, or Soldano etc

Peavey Rockmaster is a good cheap option too

Stereo power amps usually get used to allow separate left and right channels
Not that many players bi-amp for guitar unless using a powered sub like an ISP one
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: Stevepage on November 05, 2007, 02:47:30 PM
Probably a Mesa 50/50 with either a ENGL Preamp, Digitech 2101, Digitech GSP1101, Soldano SP-77 or Mesa Studio or Quad Preamp.
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: Orkestra on November 05, 2007, 05:15:39 PM
ADA mp-1 and a Marshall 9005 has been a hit in the studio...


that combo was used on our latest E.P, which *PLUG* is available in another forum on here... sounds $%&#ing great!
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 05, 2007, 06:07:43 PM
It's a good question about what gear will best suit but raises a few questions :

1) is it for playing at home or in a small studio setup?
If so then many bigger power amps have just too much power/volume available and you can rarely get them above 2-3 on the volume

2) Are you playing with a band or hope to join a band with your rig
Then you will need 50-100 watts per side
Also if you are wanting the same sound as big amps like Marshall, Mesa, Engl etc then you would be best to get a power amp that uses the same style of valves like EL34 or 6L6.
The power amps with the smaller EL84 valves sound really nice but the sound is sweeter and more compressed in my opinion and not sonically the same as  if it ran on EL34s, 6L6(or 5881s), 6550s etc
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: Bird on November 05, 2007, 07:54:09 PM
I posted something similar on sevenstring.org, here's the link

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/gear-equipment/29045-anyone-using-power-amps.html
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: AdamB on November 05, 2007, 08:20:23 PM
It's to replace my 5150 II

I'm looking to get an Egnater Mod 50, but just can't get in touch with them after sooooo many attempts, still my number one option though

But, the mesa 2:90 seems good for me as a poweramp, it's just the pre amp that i'm wondering about?!

Maybe a dual rectifier preamp? If i don't like it i can just replace one half instead of the whole thing
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: indysmith on November 05, 2007, 08:23:41 PM
I'd get an ENGL preamp and poweramp for metal
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: AdamB on November 05, 2007, 08:26:40 PM
It's not really for metal, i like my mids

Just need a massive sound

I only have my peaveys gain on 5
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: indysmith on November 05, 2007, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: adammato
It's not really for metal, i like my mids

Just need a massive sound

I only have my peaveys gain on 5

thats still a shedload of gain on a 5150! and who said you had to scoop the mids out for metal? Kerry king would floor ya.
As far as rack equipment goes; for anything from light rock to heavy metal i think ENGL will cope better than anything else, especially if you like your mids! which will be far better than a recto's mids (or lack of them)
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: AdamB on November 05, 2007, 09:17:11 PM
Fair enough.

Any ENGL preamps you can recommend?

Is there a better power amp than a Mesa 2:90?

Will it sound better than my 5150 II?
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: noodleplugerine on November 05, 2007, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: adammato
Fair enough.

Any ENGL preamps you can recommend?

Is there a better power amp than a Mesa 2:90?

Will it sound better than my 5150 II?


They rank in awesomeness according to price.

If you can afford an E580 - Then buy an E580.
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: Woogie on November 05, 2007, 09:29:03 PM
VHT poweramps?
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: AdamB on November 05, 2007, 09:39:30 PM
Egnater just got back to me and i'm line for my mod 50 :)
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: hamfist on November 06, 2007, 07:29:48 AM
Quote from: adammato
Egnater just got back to me and i'm line for my mod 50 :)


Yummy !!!! you lucky boy !
Title: Poweramp and preamp.....
Post by: NPH on November 06, 2007, 10:30:29 AM
I used to use a JMP 1 pre amp and a Marshall 20/20 power amp running through a stereo 4 x 12 - never ever had a problem being heard over the drummer or anything!

And I never had it anywhere near full volume.