Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: wintersun on November 12, 2007, 08:57:13 PM
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Hi guys!
Getting my custom guitar soon! And I need a good floyd! I want the best! I heard Kahlers are the best, but They are not for a necks with radius 16'', and I really want at least 16''! I want to have that ibanezish wizard neck playability.
Any sugestions? Price doesn't matter, it has to be the best!
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OFR
Gotoh (my maverick has a brand-specific pressing of one and it is unshakeable (in tuning that is) once set up)
Avoid Wilkinson unless you are going for Wilkinson inventions as Wilko Floyds, in my experience, are really cheap and nasty.
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Original EDGE or Lo-Pro EDGE??
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Back when I had a floyd guitar (Ibanez Radius - the Satch model before it was his signature model) it used to piss me of with the lack of bass end, that trem just killed it.
The Ibanez lo-pro trem stayed in tune great, but surely there is something with more mass and doesn't effect the tone quite so much.
I always loved Slayer's tone so I'd be tempted to go with a Khaler if I got another whammy-bar metal machine.
:twisted:
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Original Floyd Rose. Can't be beat.
I do like the Kahler alot, but you have said it's not an option
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Can you not adjust the Kahler with the individual string heights enough?
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The one, the only, .... Original Floyd Rose
http://www.floydrose.co.uk/
In stock and ready to go.. :wink:
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I think the OFR is designed for a 10" radius but most people seem to use them ok on flatter fretboards.
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no regrets about upgrading to an OFR. tone is great even if you dont use the thing.
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Kahler ftw.
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Can anyone give me the OFR website link. Cant find it, lol :D
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The Kahler flatmount trem whilst very good is not a Floyd
They more than any other trem were accused of robbing tone and sustain if poorly fitted.
I do wonder how many of the players suggesting them have actually had a guitar with one on ( the "if its good enough for Kerry King" arguement does not count as personal experience)
As far as Floyds go there are only about 3 worth looking at
1) Floyd Rose Original - still the best IMO
2) Ibanez Edge/Lo-pro Edge
3) Gotoh Floyd Licensed unit
I dont know what you mean about the Trev Wilkinson stuff
Trev is nothing short of a genius and this industry owes him a lot for his work
If you mean the cheap Floyd that the Maverick company went with to keep costs down - that is not down to Trev himself but rather due to the limitations of cost that were imposed to sell the Maverick guitars at a certain price point.
There are some shims available to alter the radius of the Floyd original to a flatter radius if need be
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Thanks! Whats the Floyd rose 7 string price?
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Can anyone give me the OFR website link. Cant find it, lol :D
Sorry, didn't see the previous post.
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Schallers are good too. slightly different tone than an OFR, but great. though i am not sure if you can buy them retail as easy as an OFR. most companies that use thhem (well, Vigier only, from what i can remember) get them factory direct, with their logo stamped on
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The Kahler flatmount trem whilst very good is not a Floyd
They more than any other trem were accused of robbing tone and sustain if poorly fitted.
I do wonder how many of the players suggesting them have actually had a guitar with one on ( the "if its good enough for Kerry King" arguement does not count as personal experience)
As far as Floyds go there are only about 3 worth looking at
1) Floyd Rose Original - still the best IMO
2) Ibanez Edge/Lo-pro Edge
3) Gotoh Floyd Licensed unit
I dont know what you mean about the Trev Wilkinson stuff
Trev is nothing short of a genius and this industry owes him a lot for his work
If you mean the cheap Floyd that the Maverick company went with to keep costs down - that is not down to Trev himself but rather due to the limitations of cost that were imposed to sell the Maverick guitars at a certain price point.
There are some shims available to alter the radius of the Floyd original to a flatter radius if need be
I'm on about the piece of cr@p that was attached to my Vintage Metal Axxe. Perhaps his other floyds are good but that one was just awful...
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OFR, by far.
The edge is nice but tonally it's a bit weak compared to the OFR, stays in tune well though but so does the OFR.
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Sorry for the hijack guys. How about the Ibanez ZR? You know the one with the bearing pieces.
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The ZR trem's are really good fairly expensive though.
The OFR Schaller Floyd, or Gotoh Floyd's are really good trems...
Gotoh's can be bought from WD music, allparts who also sell te schaller FR, as do touchstone tonewoods...
sites are www.wdmusic.co.uk
www.allparts.co.uk
www.touchstonetonewoods.co.uk
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OFR, by far.
The edge is nice but tonally it's a bit weak compared to the OFR, stays in tune well though but so does the OFR.
I think the Edge's main weak point is it's alloy (or maybe zinc) block. I'm surprised there aren't any 3rd party brass or steel replacements available like there are for OFRs.
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Can I buy only the Ibanez ZR bridge? I've never saw it to sell... neither in google search...
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Can I buy only the Ibanez ZR bridge? I've never saw it to sell... neither in google search...
there is somewhere selling them taken off ibanez guitars... but for it to fit you'd have to re-route your guitar. it's not a standard sized bridge, and it doesn't use a standard pivot mechanism
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I knowed this in some deep space in my brain...
but does it worthwhile? is this bridge as good as the Guitar Player Magazine said it is???
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I knowed this in some deep space in my brain...
but does it worthwhile? is this bridge as good as the Guitar Player Magazine said it is???
better. lol.
It's incredible if you want a do-everything super-bridge, that feels perfect and NEVER loses tune.
The downside is that it's insanely technical (even more so than a regular floyd) - an engineering masterpiece, but it can take a while to set up after a string guage change or a change of tuning.
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And sorry for my mistake: Knowed.... should be knew... I worked all night long and didn't sleep, sum it to I'm not the smartest guy in the world = freak slow motion
Huuummmmm looks like I'll have to try someday this bridge... I don't like F.R. because it's a pain in the ass to change strings and when it brakes, but.... I like the noises that it does :D
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As I know, you can order it directly from Ibanez: https://cs.hoshinogakki.co.jp/i-public/faces/Login00.jsp or from here: http://www.ibanezrules.com/parts.htm#Parts The latter is in the US.
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The Kahler flatmount trem whilst very good is not a Floyd
They more than any other trem were accused of robbing tone and sustain if poorly fitted.
I do wonder how many of the players suggesting them have actually had a guitar with one on ( the "if its good enough for Kerry King" arguement does not count as personal experience)
As far as Floyds go there are only about 3 worth looking at
1) Floyd Rose Original - still the best IMO
2) Ibanez Edge/Lo-pro Edge
3) Gotoh Floyd Licensed unit
I dont know what you mean about the Trev Wilkinson stuff
Trev is nothing short of a genius and this industry owes him a lot for his work
If you mean the cheap Floyd that the Maverick company went with to keep costs down - that is not down to Trev himself but rather due to the limitations of cost that were imposed to sell the Maverick guitars at a certain price point.
There are some shims available to alter the radius of the Floyd original to a flatter radius if need be
I'm on about the piece of cr@p that was attached to my Vintage Metal Axxe. Perhaps his other floyds are good but that one was just awful...
Ok- the same point about price applies - but only more so !
Suspect that Trev has had to put his name to something that he had no real input onbecause of his ongoing involvement with JHS and their Vintage guitar range
The Original Floyd Rose is by far the best (which is why we stock them)
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/FELINE-GUITARS-CUSTOM-GUITAR-SHOP_Guitar-bridges-and-tuners_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ6QQftidZ2QQtZkm
The Ibanez Edges and the Gotoh are pretty good though
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The Kahler flatmount trem whilst very good is not a Floyd
They more than any other trem were accused of robbing tone and sustain if poorly fitted.
I do wonder how many of the players suggesting them have actually had a guitar with one on ( the "if its good enough for Kerry King" arguement does not count as personal experience)
As far as Floyds go there are only about 3 worth looking at
1) Floyd Rose Original - still the best IMO
2) Ibanez Edge/Lo-pro Edge
3) Gotoh Floyd Licensed unit
I dont know what you mean about the Trev Wilkinson stuff
Trev is nothing short of a genius and this industry owes him a lot for his work
If you mean the cheap Floyd that the Maverick company went with to keep costs down - that is not down to Trev himself but rather due to the limitations of cost that were imposed to sell the Maverick guitars at a certain price point.
There are some shims available to alter the radius of the Floyd original to a flatter radius if need be
I'm on about the piece of cr@p that was attached to my Vintage Metal Axxe. Perhaps his other floyds are good but that one was just awful...
Ok- the same point about price applies - but only more so !
Suspect that Trev has had to put his name to something that he had no real input onbecause of his ongoing involvement with JHS and their Vintage guitar rnge
The Original Floyd Rose is by far the best (which is why we stock them)
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/FELINE-GUITARS-CUSTOM-GUITAR-SHOP_Guitar-bridges-and-tuners_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ6QQftidZ2QQtZkm
The Ibanez Edges and the Gotoh are pretty good though
Well it was all branded as his stuff...
I'd still feel more comfortable only going for the Wilkinson bridge than another WilkoFloyd.
If OFR are better than Gotoh that's some pretty amazing stuff though. I am, however, not in any position to replace my Gotoh without seriously re-doing the route (The Maverick/Gotoh bridges have a different position for the allen screws; the Maverick is more like an Ibanez EDGE, that keep the strings in place meaning that it's not as long as an OFR. Anyway I love the shorter arm on the mavericks; it feels almost like a strat in that it gives more resistance than other Floyds.) I think I wouldn't be jumping for joy if I went for a more conventional 'spongy' one. When it wears out (it's been going strong since at least 2003) I know where I can get the replacement easily.