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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Wolfie on August 09, 2005, 09:31:30 PM

Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: Wolfie on August 09, 2005, 09:31:30 PM
First of all, hi to everyone

Bedroom noodler for about three years, love it, spent loads of money, but what the hell, im enjoying it.

Well heres the problem that I hope someone can help with.

I try to play a Peavey Wolfgand standard ( USA ) through a Matamp C7 Deluxe, the problem I'm experiencing id that I find the bridge PU far to Muddey / Bassy, Im told its a 17k PU, which I think is pretty hot and the neck is 12K.

Id prefer to change the set if thats the way to go.

What Im looking for is something a bit more cleaner, but sounds really sweet when driven, Im no expert, am I barking up the wrong tree ?.

The stock PUP's are direct mounted, 2 wire, with 2 joined together.

Will BKP fit straight in ?

Should I buy a LP.

You're opinions would be most welcome.

Phil
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: HJM on August 09, 2005, 10:40:10 PM
Matamp C7 good choice....

I use my PRS CE24 (mapltop one) with VHIIs when doing the R&D with Matamp, the C7 is actually voiced with them!
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: bucketshred on August 09, 2005, 11:28:09 PM
I'd say get what HJM uses in his PRS (I'm jealous, I want one of those), especially if the Matamp is voiced around that guitar...(which reminds me, I still need to check those bad boys out).

Andy!
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on August 10, 2005, 12:32:38 AM
Gotta go with that
If the amp is voiced using the VH2s then they will sound best

And what could be better for an EVH guitar- VH2s!!
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: March on August 10, 2005, 01:53:57 AM
Quote from: HJM
Matamp C7 good choice....

I use my PRS CE24 (mapltop one) with VHIIs when doing the R&D with Matamp, the C7 is actually voiced with them!


In a change to our regular schedule.... 'I really want a Matamp 1224 Mk. II'.

There, I feel much better now I have got that off my chest!  :)

Let normal service commence...
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: HJM on August 10, 2005, 07:29:04 AM
They (1224) were voiced originally with the HFS/Vintage Bass set, then tweaked with a Black Dog/Stormy monday set!
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: Wolfie on August 11, 2005, 10:32:43 AM
Cheers guys

Will the VHII just drop straight in, or will I have to mod something?

Regards

Phil
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: HJM on August 11, 2005, 01:21:44 PM
That I'm not 100% sure, best to measure up and check with BKP. BKP 'buckers are vintage standard size, some guitars have smaller holes!
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: Skybone on August 11, 2005, 03:56:10 PM
Just to be annoying, I second March.

"I REALLY WANT a 1224mkII".....

Sorry to hijack the thread with amp-lust, and now, back to your usual scheduled viewing...;)
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: _tom_ on August 17, 2005, 09:44:17 PM
Quote from: HJM
some guitars have smaller holes!


hahaha brings a whole new meaning to a "guitar porn" thread  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: HJM on August 17, 2005, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: _tom_
Quote from: HJM
some guitars have smaller holes!


hahaha brings a whole new meaning to a "guitar porn" thread  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



Raise eybroy and  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :o  :o
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: Custom79 on August 17, 2005, 10:33:50 PM
Phil doesn't need a pickup now, he traded his guitar for a Tyler Custom Classic, it's a beauty !!
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: chrisola on August 18, 2005, 11:03:48 AM
what the hells a Matamp?

some kind of £££++ hideously expensive boutique amp?
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: Custom79 on August 18, 2005, 11:41:34 AM
They're made in the UK, if I remember rightly they were canny big years ago and have started making stuff again.
Basically they'll make you whatever you want, any tones, any colour etc. I still haven't heard Phils amp but he had a few issues with it but it turns out it was the Peavey Wolfgang as his Tyler sounds great through it he says.
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: HJM on August 18, 2005, 12:21:26 PM
double post...oops...see below
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: HJM on August 18, 2005, 12:22:15 PM
Prices start at £550 ish, around £800-1000 for a head is the average. All handwired with high spec components. They've had two Guitarist Gold Awards in the last two years too! The 1224 is great, switch between 1 2 or 4 valves, triode/pentode, true class A or A/B, zero negative feedback, any octal valve you want to use. They're factory direct, so no shop markup.

Based near Huddersfield, Yorkshire. Been in business for 60 years this year, makes them teh oldest Brit amp company I think. Guitar amps were on the back burner for a while after the disco era, but back in full production for about the last 15 years I think. They designed and built the original Orange amps (pre Voice of the world).

They're reissuing the Peter Green amp - the Series 2000 amp and piggyback reverb unit. A 20w amp and reverb he used to record during the 'Albatross' era of Fleetwood Mac.
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: March on August 18, 2005, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from: chrisola
what the hells a Matamp?

some kind of £££++ hideously expensive boutique amp?


They are boutique, but they are certainly not hideously expensive. For example, a 28 watt (and a loud 28 watts at that) head that will make all almost every other amp you've heard seem redundant - how much would you pay? £2000 plus?

£820 pounds (approx!).

I tried out a new product of theirs yesterday called the 'Flexi' - it was simply stunning. It's a 15 watt amp available in head or combo - what can I say, the tones are more Marshall than Marshall - I've ordered one!

Also want a 1224 but I am going to discuss what features I want mine to have (a cross between a Mk.II and a Mk.V springs to mind, the clean and rythym sounds of the Mk.II but the insane but amazing lead sound of the Mk.V).

In a word - they are the best amps I have ever heard.  :D
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on August 18, 2005, 03:19:48 PM
Sorry to hijack the thread, but ... HJM, would you know where I could hear a Matamp in the NY area? If not, do you think I could visit the Matamp shop when I'm in the UK? (Planning on a visit in the somewhat-near future)
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: HJM on August 18, 2005, 05:03:51 PM
I'm sure Jeff and Dave would love to have you at the factory Ben! Matamp is about an 1 1/2 hours from Nottingham, where Laz Gajic is I believe? You should do a Tone Tour!

Matamp distribution in the US is going through some changes, I know there are a few dealers, but I think they're on the West coast.

The Flexi amp isn't quite right yet....nearly! The Series 2000 RI is my favorite, pure vintage tone - miles from the stoner amps like the GTO and GTL.

The thing with Matamps is they're lightning fast, no negative feedback means maximum response and dynamic range.  They also don't sound like many other amps, which is a refreshing change! That also means if you love Marshalls, or any other signature amp tone, they might not be for you, but great if you want an individual tone. BKPs sound great through them - I've been using BKPs for about two years while voicing Matamps....the amps can be very transpaant, you really hear the guitars true sound.

I've got a C7 at home, waiting for the three channel head which i still in the R&D phase:(

Prices are good at the moment because they sell direct, grab a bargain!  

I am not on commision....foolish me doesn't do it for the money!!
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on August 18, 2005, 07:02:55 PM
LOL, thanx for the thorough reply!

My curiosity is definitely piqued, tho ... you've heard my style, and I'm sure you wouldn't recommend something that wouldn't be a good fit.
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: Underground_Player on August 18, 2005, 07:36:42 PM
I heard that C7 on a recent Guitarist mag cd, and its the only amp I've ever liked the sound of on any Guitarist cd over the last 3 years.

HJM I can't exactly afford a Matamp right now - plus having awesome gear at my age is a bit wrong - but roughly how much would a custom 15 watt pentode/triode selectable Class A EL84 powered single channel Tone/Gain/Volume 1X12 be? Hell yes I've been thinking about it way too much!! Thanks a lot.  :)
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: HJM on August 18, 2005, 10:10:17 PM
Matamp don't usually build EL84 amps, but a 6v6 15w would be possible, parallel single ended class A. As to the price, custom builds are a little extra, but I'd guess around the £800 mark, I could be out though - it's best to talk to the guys - they love dealing with younger players!
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: HJM on August 18, 2005, 10:21:25 PM
It'd be under £800, I'd bet thinking about it......

Just got back from working on a 2 watt amp designed to work with twin pedals like the Fulldrive, it's got legs this project!
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: March on August 19, 2005, 12:05:14 AM
Quote from: HJM
It'd be under £800, I'd bet thinking about it......

Just got back from working on a 2 watt amp designed to work with twin pedals like the Fulldrive, it's got legs this project!


I tried it yesterday - fell in love with it immediately! That 2 watt amp has so many possibilities it's frightening, through my Fulltone it just sounded phenominal. Anybody want a drive tone at practice level volume's that does not sound like a wasp in a jam jar, that has dynamics and sounds expensive but does not break the bank or the windows? Well, that 2 watter will be the answer.  :)
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: Johnny Mac on August 19, 2005, 06:01:11 AM
Quote from: HJM
Matamp C7 good choice....

I use my PRS CE24 (mapltop one) with VHIIs when doing the R&D with Matamp, the C7 is actually voiced with them!


Woah! How bads that!! Your amp is voiced to VHII's :!:  :!:  :twisted:  8)  :D  :!:  :!:  :!:  What an entrance!!!!

Loving it :!:  8)
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: Johnny Mac on August 19, 2005, 06:14:31 AM
Quote from: Underground_Player

HJM I can't exactly afford a Matamp right now - plus having awesome gear at my age is a bit wrong


Don't worry about it! Having awesome gear will effect your feel and technique as well as sound incredible! Get some man! Don't do what I did and put up with the stuff you had in your teens and early 20's when you get to my age (40)!!

Oh, I don't want to go to work now! I want to stay at home and play my guitar :P
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: 38thBeatle on August 19, 2005, 07:41:47 AM
There is abosolutely no reason why you shouldn't have the best gear just because you are young. If you can afford it then get it and enjoy it. As Johnny says, getting great gear is in itself an inspiration to play and that can't be bad. I can asure you there is time to get more modest gear after you have  "settled down" and you do have to compromise because a carpet is somehow more important than "another bloody guitar"- not that I am bitter!
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Post by: Underground_Player on August 19, 2005, 06:00:55 PM
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There is abosolutely no reason why you shouldn't have the best gear just because you are young


It's just a lot of people think you're a snob or whatever....I think I forgot how tolerant everybody is on here!

I've just done a whole lot of research and playing to make me aware of exactly what I want, then got that and bought nothing else. The way I see it its probably cheaper in the long run; I've just got one good guitar, one good pedal and one half decent amp all of which I thought long and hard over. I went from a Yamaha Pacifica 112 to an Organic FFS! But that's a guitar for life - no need to spend years working up the price spectrum.

And btw my daddy didn't buy it for me!!



Doesn't stop me lusting after other stuff though  :)

Or tweaking stuff, actually.

Dammit this 'gear for life' theory isn't holding up too well is it!
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Post by: 38thBeatle on August 19, 2005, 07:34:22 PM
Doesn't matter what other people think and my Dad bought me my  first Fender as a gift because he was my Dad and I still have it. I couldn't sell it because he got it for me. Conversely I have bought stuff for my son only to see him promptly flog it off  and get something else( the bugger) but then he is a keyboard player and keyboards just aren't the same are they.

Golden rule- always get the very best you can and if anyone calls you a snob then they are envious cretins.
Title: Recommend some BKP for a Wolfie, Please.
Post by: _tom_ on August 19, 2005, 08:21:37 PM
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There is abosolutely no reason why you shouldn't have the best gear just because you are young


It's just a lot of people think you're a snob or whatever....I think I forgot how tolerant everybody is on here!

I've just done a whole lot of research and playing to make me aware of exactly what I want, then got that and bought nothing else. The way I see it its probably cheaper in the long run; I've just got one good guitar, one good pedal and one half decent amp all of which I thought long and hard over. I went from a Yamaha Pacifica 112 to an Organic FFS! But that's a guitar for life - no need to spend years working up the price spectrum.

And btw my daddy didn't buy it for me!!



Doesn't stop me lusting after other stuff though  :)

Or tweaking stuff, actually.

Dammit this 'gear for life' theory isn't holding up too well is it!


 :oops: my dad payed most of the money towards my amp and bought my guitar! I feel so spoilt  :lol: I payed him back for my bridge Mule though, and payed for the neck Mule, and I payed for all (3) of my pedals, so at least I payed for some of my tone  :lol: