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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: maverickf1jockey on November 17, 2007, 11:39:22 PM
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Why is it so bloody difficult for me to form a band? I am seriously pissed off right now as I've tried a good many things; I've tried posters up at school, the internet (which is going pretty much nowhere) and actually telling people that I'd be interested in forming a band, asking if they'd know if anyone they knew would be interested. Is there some sort of social stigma associated with not listening to Indie/pop/American 'Punk' chart trash?
What am I asking?
For someone interested in slightly broader musical styles?
For someone who actually could give a flying toss about the music they play?
For someone who has an attention span of more than five minutes?
This is really doing my head in; I only want to start/join a good band but everybody I would be interested in forming up with is either taken or has a full compliment of musicians and no need of me. :evil:
Why can I not get anything together?
Sorry; this is just rant.
The point is that I'm upset about the whole thing and it's manly due to other people (mainly Simon Cowell but I think that's mainly because he's a talentless ####!! with the musical taste of a professional homosexual, Alan Carr being an example of such, and he and his cohorts have basically ruined music) as far as I can tell.
This is probably just offensive babble so I'll stop now.
It would be defamation but Mr Cowell is as described.
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I've got lucky and joined both my bands as the replacement guitarist. Right place, right time.
Are you trying to start something specialist, or more mainstream? If you widen the appeal you may get more people up for it...
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After a sort of intelligent music, similar to Rush, King Crimson, Dream Theater, Ozric Tentacles and The Mars Volta.
These band have HUGE nationwide fanbases so there should be no real reason for my difficulty except that my year seems to be the last year at my school who aren't all chavvy w**kers and all the older years have really left leaving shoegazers and other such shite above us.
I just want a format that goes beyond 'boy-meets-girl-girl-has-the-mind-of-a-blancmange-and-goes-for-his-distinctly-average-musicianship
Sort of thing.
I just want to be able to play the way I like in a band I like - is that too much?
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www.formingbands.co.uk
Where my current band found ME!
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The exact website I'm trying and getting nowhere.
Problem is that virtually all the listings are dead or not going to work. I wish people wouldn't leave their ads up when they haven't got any intention of using them. :evil:
I have gotten some responses but it isn't going very far because of email problems and I'm just getting frustrated as all I'd actually need to do would be to spend 10 minutes with them to get about a weeks worth of emailing people and such and such. It's driving me up the friggin' wall!
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this will hardly be encouragement, but i've been trying to get a band together for over ten years! (no, i'm not Jack Black!) every time i meet decent drummers/ bass players /guitarists/singers (all of which i can do but i'm mainly a guitarist/singer) they just want to do the same old shite, Sweet child 'o mine, summer of '69, maybe Enter Sandman. no-one has any interest in creating anything, even if it's derivative! never mind original! i'm coming very close to giving up and buying a F*****g keyboard!
my only salvation, such as it is. is traditional Irish Music. believe it or not, a couple of years ago we did a traditional arrangement of Creeping Death. acoustic guitar, Fiddle, and Flute. turned out remarkably well! even though we never completely finished it. still, maybe a direction for the future?...
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Well if i lived where you are Maverick, I'd love to join your prog band as an accomplished guitarist or keyboardist, which is exactly what I'd love where I am, but there just arent the players, and there isnt the interest in prog for that to work.
The only people who I'd consider joining a band with are 2 guitarists i'm mates with, but there are no bassists and no drummers, so I've basically decided to focus on solo piano - which i love - but i'd still like to get a group going.
I just can't wait until i'm in the conservatorium and there are great players everywhere!
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It's not just the 'Prog-Factor' it's that half of them have never heard a solo on their respective instruments and so haven't bothered to watch their chops and the other half are in bands already.
I'd be happy to be in a G'n'R-style band but I'd miss MY style.
I have a deep love of Blues music but it isn't the kind of thing I'd like to play all the time as it just isn't a stretch and the environment is too conservative to do anything different.
I like orchestral music but I can't join in with an orchestra unless I learn something like Yngwie Malmesteen's guitar concertos or work out how the arrangement of the Score DVD goes for those songs.
I think jazz could have been a good move but no-body plays that sort of jazz and I'm not going to learn a horn just to get into a school jazz band.
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I've signed up with four or five sites and you know what? I can't find any women! Never mind 'in my area' or 'wanting to play hard rock/classic metal' There aren't any. Which is a bit of a problem...
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There was one of those band programs like x factor on a few sundays ago, and there was a girl group on it.
The point I am trying to highlight is that they were all about 50 miles away from each other... Thats a lot of distance to travel just for the all girl factor :P
but despite only having one gig, and not rehearsing in months, they were extremely tight and on time.
There are just so many guitarists out there, its weird. I would think getting a drum machine / backing track with bass would be a good plan. local pub has a couple doing that, the woman sang. the old fogies didn't like the use of a computer though
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I've signed up with four or five sites and you know what? I can't find any women! Never mind 'in my area' or 'wanting to play hard rock/classic metal' There aren't any. Which is a bit of a problem...
why?
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I always rolled in as a replacement or i invited drummers for a jam. In most cases when all worked well with a drummer all falls into place really quick, the hardest part for me always was to find a half decent singer that didnt suffer from delusions of grandeur.
So basically, dont ask, just invite a drummer, or make a demo tape so people can listen to what your playing is about. Pretty usefull to make a demo by the way, if only for listening to yourself playing.
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I've signed up with four or five sites and you know what? I can't find any women! Never mind 'in my area' or 'wanting to play hard rock/classic metal' There aren't any. Which is a bit of a problem...
why?
Sarcasm..... :roll:
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I always rolled in as a replacement or i invited drummers for a jam. In most cases when all worked well with a drummer all falls into place really quick, the hardest part for me always was to find a half decent singer that didnt suffer from delusions of grandeur.
So basically, dont ask, just invite a drummer, or make a demo tape so people can listen to what your playing is about. Pretty usefull to make a demo by the way, if only for listening to yourself playing.
Not really an option as I'd have to drag my whole (reasonably portable) rig down to school and book out the studio without hope of rehearsal during the day as all the practice rooms are filled with freelance music teachers and set everything up in two rooms at once. After that I'd have to warm up to a performable standard and then I have to go home as it's about 5:00 and the schools going to be locked up. Apart from that it'd be a piece of piss...
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Like Twinfan stated, it has alot to do with right place, right time.
Although I've played in various bands, it took me years to form my 'dream band'. Trying to find an upright bass player in these parts wasn't easy. We just happened to stumble across him. We got more than we could have hoped for, 'cause this guy also happened to have a good network with other musicians, sound techs and people interested in hiring bands.
You need a bit of luck and PATIENCE.
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Not really an option as I'd have to drag my whole (reasonably portable) rig down to school and book out the studio without hope of rehearsal during the day as all the practice rooms are filled with freelance music teachers and set everything up in two rooms at once. After that I'd have to warm up to a performable standard and then I have to go home as it's about 5:00 and the schools going to be locked up. Apart from that it'd be a piece of piss...
When i started out(i was 14 or 15) we practiced in a barn at a farm, i started just with a bass player though and we just started making songs, me even doing the vocals aswell :oops:
It does take a fair amount of will-power to stand there freezing you nuts off wile playing in the winter. Still i couldnt imagine not to practice, even in sub zero temperature, riding my bike for 30 minuted with my guitar on my back and my amp on the back of the bike.
It took us a few months looking for a drummer, by then we had a couple of songs and within a years time we had our first gig in a community centre. Maybe nothing to brag about, but man did i get my fair share of adrenalin that day.
Im sorry, but if you really want to play in a band youll find a way, no question.
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I'm very happy in my current band... but I wish I could find a female-fronted band with a similar sound in the area. I've always wanted to be in a band with a female singer.
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I've signed up with four or five sites and you know what? I can't find any women! Never mind 'in my area' or 'wanting to play hard rock/classic metal' There aren't any. Which is a bit of a problem...
why?
Well, if you're trying to form an all-female band (which I am). Having worked as a computer programmer for years and been surrounded by men, I'm not keen on being the only woman in the band as well.
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Finding an all-female band in those genres is always going to be a challenge. Those styles of music are still associated too much with sweaty men and testosterone that could be collected by placing a jar on the nearest surface with an ice cube inside. Its, I imagine, very intimidating for the average girl in that environment (which doesn't really exist and never has done it's just several people who perpetuate the stereotype) and so they tend to go for 'safer' options like chart music :wallbash: .
In short; it's not your fault as a gender - it's the media.
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I'm currently looking for a new band at the minute.
In my current 1 the singer and drummer are on about going more electronic with less guitars, because they think it'll 'give them an edge over practically every other band that's just about guitars' :roll:
I'm currently looking for a 'bog standard' covers band doing music I love, or maybe even a tribute act. It's proving difficult to think of a band for which I could play JUST their music though :lol:
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:D Forming bands is a nightmare always was always will be !
I`m afraid it comes down to right place right time & a F**k load of patience. It can take years to get it together. As a long time player i gave up the whole band thing as it became more work than it was worth. I now play in a duo. We use backing tracks & play & sing along to `em. We have an agent & i`m gigging every week. When trying to get other muscians involved i have an advantage....i`m talking about payed work about me & the other band members making money that tends to draw alot of people in. The problem as has been pointed out is trying to get a covers band together that wont play Sweet Child`o mine or Summer 69 etc so many bands are doing `em its getting boring. I`m also struggerling to think of a band i`d like to tribute.
:D 8)
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Forming a proper band is a bitch, cuz it's easy enough to throw together a guy who can bang on the skins, another chap who can finger the bass right, and another who can tickle the keys on a synth, while you blast away on your guitar... but then there's the hard bit;
1 - You all have to want to play the same type of music (rare)
2 - You all have to be available to jam at the same time (very rare)
3 - And I dunno about you guys, but every drummer I've ever had has suffered from what appears to be A.D.D.
So far I've played like 10 gigs with my full band, and about 20 with only parts of my band. I got my bass player to play drums a few times (I taught him both instruments so he did a fine job :oops: ) when the drummer disappeared, and somehow managed to convince my synth player to do the bass on the keyboard (she felt very slighted at that... dunno why). Often enough, I've showed up to a gig and played a solo acoustic set because I couldn't get anyone else to show. B a s t a r d s, the lot of them :twisted:
All you can do, really, is just be VERY patient, and ALWAYS be on the lookout for players. Eventually the odds are that you'll find people who WILL be available and like playing the same jams you do.
I'm done rambling now :D
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1 - You all have to want to play the same type of music (rare)
2 - You all have to be available to jam at the same time (very rare)
3 - And I dunno about you guys, but every drummer I've ever had has suffered from what appears to be A.D.D.
+ all band members have to be able to get along.
I've seen very skilled musicians but they can't play in a band because they're total arseholes.