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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: AdamB on November 25, 2007, 08:51:36 PM

Title: Cables....
Post by: AdamB on November 25, 2007, 08:51:36 PM
So, i've used planet waves cable for as long as i can remember, simply because, i get them for free, they're pretty high quality and never let me down (only had 2 in about 4 years, i lost one)

But i see alot of people on here bitching about them...

So, what's better?

New guitar, new pickup, soon to be new amp, why not new lead!?
Title: Cables....
Post by: Oli on November 25, 2007, 09:44:59 PM
In my experience with Planet Waves cables (3), i've noticed that the cables seem to perish and deteriorate just after the molded strain-relief. I can't see myself purchasing them again due to the cost:life ratio, so i'd rather buy a Van Damme cable that has superior connectors that i can salvage and re-use when the cable does fail eventually. I've also found that because the PW cables tend to succumb to noise and interference (both radio and mechanical) earlier than other cables, but that's due to the cable being thicker and therefore not being able to be bend so sharply.

That said, if you're getting them for free, then i don't see really why you should change.
Title: Cables....
Post by: MM-S MIKE on November 25, 2007, 09:48:25 PM
I've used Proel die hard cables for the past 12 months because they have good quality contacts so the sound transmission is excellent, plus they're not too expensive ...... might be worth a look. Probably too early to comment but they seem very reliable. I have a piranha cable as well which I used to use from time to time, but I don't honestly think there's a vast amount of difference between most brands so just like strings, find a brand that suits your needs and you're happy with and stick with it, and there's probably no need to spend a huge amount of money on them either. I just prefer my cables to other similar ones because of the high quality contacts plus I think they have a very slightly thicker tone than the piranha, which is just my perference.

Hope this is useful

Mike
Title: Cables....
Post by: AdamB on November 25, 2007, 09:49:13 PM
I don't mind paying for something else though.

It's not that much money if it's going to last me
Title: Cables....
Post by: AngusYoung01 on November 25, 2007, 09:52:03 PM
I use the Planet Waves cicuit breaker cables, and they are spot on. Been using same ones for about a year, no wear, no sound interferance, no breaking, nothing.

Although I hear good things about Goerge L's...
Title: Cables....
Post by: waves on November 25, 2007, 10:15:36 PM
Quote from: AngusYoung01
I use the Planet Waves cicuit breaker cables, and they are spot on. Been using same ones for about a year, no wear, no sound interferance, no breaking, nothing.

Although I hear good things about Goerge L's...



I had one of those (circuit breaker). It was awesome and i found the mute terribly useful and i could also do some tom morello stuff with it. It broke though and then i picked up some control ones cheap from a guitar show. But they seem to be failing now aswell, so i'm looking towards George L's. Can anyone recommend them?
Title: Cables....
Post by: Peter Antal on November 25, 2007, 10:16:17 PM
I've gone through several cables in the past year or two. Started with an old Proel cable then changed to Planet Waves. It was like pulling a wet blanket off my sound. Then I started to use TAD, I can't remember any significant difference between the two brands, though. Finally, I bought a Zaolla Silverline cable and was blown away. The TAD cables were very nice so I didn't know what to expect but wow! my sound became much clearer, especially the low-end. It's not brighter but more defined, much like your first BKP's vs. stock pickups so it's difficult to explain. It's one of the most expensive cables but the improvement is definitely audible.
Title: Cables....
Post by: Will on November 25, 2007, 10:19:32 PM
If I were to go into using cables lots, I would probably go for:
http://www.theleadsfactory.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=46&products_id=203
Seems alright.
Twinfan had a thread about a wireless thing, and I got annoyed at cables breaking, so I play guitar while walkies around the house now :D

Will get some patch cables from that place soon, and a few spare for the sake of it
Title: Cables....
Post by: waves on November 25, 2007, 10:29:34 PM
that zaolla cable is mighty expensive. £50 for 3m. Looks pretty damn good though.
Title: Cables....
Post by: Peter Antal on November 25, 2007, 10:35:52 PM
Quote from: waves
that zaolla cable is mighty expensive. £50 for 3m. Looks pretty damn good though.

It's much cheaper in the US. :)

Here's a good site with lots of brands: http://www.lavacable.com/
Title: Cables....
Post by: _tom_ on November 25, 2007, 10:39:44 PM
I use some that I got from an ebay seller called rapid-cables or something like that. Neutrik jacks with unbranded cable, they work great. Only cost about £6-7 each as well.
Title: Cables....
Post by: waves on November 25, 2007, 10:41:12 PM
off topic but thats a hot new picture tom
Title: Cables....
Post by: _tom_ on November 25, 2007, 11:02:33 PM
:) Took it with my sisters expensive camera, will be using the full size one as a part of one of my projects for uni, using photoshop to make a montage so I'll be doing a guitar magazine cover with that as the main image.
Title: Cables....
Post by: AdamB on November 25, 2007, 11:13:22 PM
Any UK sites that do those Zaolla cables?

Or anywhere at all i can get them from?
Title: Cables....
Post by: AdamB on November 25, 2007, 11:15:37 PM
Oh, and are there different versions of them? Which are the best?
Title: Cables....
Post by: Oli on November 25, 2007, 11:34:24 PM
With george Ls, personally, i don't think i'll be using them- i prefer my connections to be soldered!
Title: Cables....
Post by: waves on November 26, 2007, 07:26:32 AM
Quote from: adammato
Oh, and are there different versions of them? Which are the best?


Looks like the artist series is the best line. The purple ones. They seem to be the most expensive.
Title: Cables....
Post by: AdamB on November 26, 2007, 09:29:46 AM
Bloody hell! From looking at that site, theirs alot more to cables than i first thought!
Title: Cables....
Post by: Kesus T on November 26, 2007, 02:54:17 PM
Pete Cornish all the way lads!
If they are good enough for the likes of Maiden, Zeppelin and Dave Gilmour, then they are good enough for me!!!
Title: Cables....
Post by: viking on November 26, 2007, 04:24:51 PM
I have used so many brands...Guitar cables will always deteriorate at some point.If i would have the Planet Waves for free...i would not try to find something else.Anyway,the main thing is to replace them regularly.Even the best will deteriorate... :(
Title: Cables....
Post by: hunter on November 26, 2007, 05:40:56 PM
My 6m Vovox is the best I ever played, also very flexible and nice to touch. Expensive but I think it will last forever. Note: It's directional, always plug in so that the signal flows towards the Vovox badge.

People have different preferences. I tried George Ls, some like them, I find them trebly (Ok for use in a loop but not before the amp for me). Others like Monster or other hi-end brands, for me the Vovox has overall punch, good treble, bass and 3D-depth.

http://www.thomann.de/de/vovox_protect_a600_kliwikli.htm
Title: Cables....
Post by: DeanS on November 26, 2007, 05:56:58 PM
Started using Monsters some years ago and never looked back.
Title: Cables....
Post by: Peter Antal on November 26, 2007, 06:08:31 PM
Quote from: hunter
Note: It's directional, always plug in so that the signal flows towards the Vovox badge.

Do you hear any difference when using it in the opposite direction? Laboga cables - very nice brand - are also marketed as 'directional', which is probably nonsense - it's AC... :roll:
Title: Cables....
Post by: Twinfan on November 26, 2007, 06:36:49 PM
I use the ones the guy at Award Session sells.  Neutrik jacks and decent quality cable.  Reasonably priced too.

That's whan I'm not using the wireless of course  ;)