Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Mr Ed on December 05, 2007, 01:54:45 PM
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Are they as boneriffic as everyone says?
I'm hopefully looking at getting a new job as early in the new year as possible and something I would definately look at is a new guitar. I have tons in my head... some sort of 335-shape, some Ibanez S-type with a ZR trem, another Fernandes... but I always yearn for an Edwards because they seem to be rated so damn highly!
Problem is... all the ones I see are imports and so it's impossible to get my hands on one and, for example, see how the fat the neck is.
Ok... GO!
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Don't ask ... just get one ... NOW!
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yep. they're incredible.
Neck's like a nicer carved gibson '50s on mine.
They're all imports because they're only made for the japanese market.
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Indy I thought you had a Greco LP? Edwards as well?
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Don't ask ... just get one ... NOW!
:roll:
Yessir.
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yep. they're incredible.
Neck's like a nicer carved gibson '50s on mine.
They're all imports because they're only made for the japanese market.
Aahh, 50's necks are the uber-chunk ones aren't they? I don't think I get on so well with them... the neck on my old PRS Tremonti SE was $%&#ing huge and it just didn't suit me. My Ravelle's neck is quite chunky but not as much.
I think the 60's profile ones are more for me... I think...
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Indy I thought you had a Greco LP? Edwards as well?
Yep :)
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*dribbles on it*
Don't worry, that won't stain.
It'd have to be pretty special to stop me gas-ing after a Hagstrom Viking Deluxe.
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they're very nice guitars... it really depends on how much you want to spend, I guess. the electronics could do with an upgrade, too (needless to say i haven't got round to that yet).
basically, for around the £400-£500 mark, you'll struggle to get better, or even anything approaching the quality, new, in the UK.
if you can get up to £700-£800, gordon smiths, higher MIJ tokais, etc., would give them a run for their money, maybe even be slightly nicer. But then you are paying quite a bit more.
To me, basically an 80's rocker/metaller who plays a bit of the classic stuff, they're exactly what I want- the classic guitar styles, which are good quality, for a decent price. I'd rather have a £400 "good" les paul, than a £1500 "awesome" one- though of course if you played mainly classic rock etc., your opinion would likely be different.
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Aahh, 50's necks are the uber-chunk ones aren't they? I don't think I get on so well with them... the neck on my old PRS Tremonti SE was #$%!& huge and it just didn't suit me. My Ravelle's neck is quite chunky but not as much.
I think the 60's profile ones are more for me... I think...
Yeah it is very chunky more so than the tremonti se from memory, i got one off ebay (a black custom style) and it sounded fantastic and it is great quality but i didnt get on with the neck. An ESP EC-1000 is what you want, great slim but not too slim neck les paul style but with a little more comfort and 24 frets :twisted:
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You're daaaaaamn right I want an ESP EC! :D
Similar prices too, hrmmmmmmm.
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I have an ESP EC1000 and it rules, i find it comfier and easier to play than the traditional LP's, mostly due to the 24 frets, upper fret access cutaway on the back, slimmer neck, body contour etc.
Better tuning too with proper tone pros bridge and tailpiece, sperzel locking tuners, earvana nut and all that cool shizzle.
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Pfftsch it's a womans LP!!! :wink: :twisted:
On a serious note though, depends what you're after of course.
No point really comparing an ultra-modern high-gain, bells and whistles-filled glossy ESP EC series, with a vintage/traditional les paul.
From what everyone has said, if you do want a traditional les paul, and you have a low(ish) budget, then Edwards are definitely a very good option.
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ESP Eclipses are just LOVELY.
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Pfftsch it's a womans LP!!! :wink: :twisted:
Well then pass me a bra and point me to the rosé wine! 8)
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Pfftsch it's a womans LP!!! :wink: :twisted:
Well then pass me a bra and point me to the rosé wine! 8)
nothing girly about rose wine :oops:
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My Edwards 130 Relic is currently sitting in my local parcelforce depot...Ive driven past it at least 3 times, but have to wait for them to let me know my customs reference number to pay import duties so I can pick it up - hopefully that will arrive today and I can get it tomorrow...the suspense is killing me! :( From what I have read, the Edwards necks are medium, betwixt a 50's and 60's size..its the one thing Im worried about...whether I can get on with the neck.
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Pfftsch it's a womans LP!!! :wink: :twisted:
Well then pass me a bra and point me to the rosé wine! 8)
nothing girly about rose wine :oops:
Yeah, that's what I told myself when I first developed a taste for it a few months ago. Now I'm at peace with it being teh gayest/most feminine wine around. :p
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Pfftsch it's a womans LP!!! :wink: :twisted:
On a serious note though, depends what you're after of course.
No point really comparing an ultra-modern high-gain, bells and whistles-filled glossy ESP EC series, with a vintage/traditional les paul.
From what everyone has said, if you do want a traditional les paul, and you have a low(ish) budget, then Edwards are definitely a very good option.
:lol:
+1
it's not really a fair comparison.
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So, out of the EC's, are the 400's worth bothering with? Spec-wise, looks pretty good to me and not a million miles away from the 1000.
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the LTD series are the most overpriced guitars around! Why would anyone pay over £500 for a MIK guitar? They're ridiculous - even the super low end cr@ppy ones made of agathis are going for about the same as an edwards (i.e. the ec-200qm, the model one down from the one your looking at has an agathis body, cr@ppy own-brand pickups, and a nasty thin body, for £420!!!)
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Some of them are gash, yeah... but:
Spec for the EC-400:
Set-Neck / 24.75”
Mahogany w/ Flamed Maple Top
3-Pc. Mahogany / Rosewood
Earvana Compensated / 42mm
Thin U
Flags
22 XJ
Creme (B/N/H)
Chrome
Grover
Tune-o-matic w/ Stop Tailpiece
Seymour Duncan JB (B) / ’59 Set
Vol / Vol / Tone / Toggle
And the more expensive, EC-1000:
Set-Neck / 24.75”
Mahogany w/ Flamed Maple top
3-Pc. Mahogany / Rosewood
Earvana Compensated / 42mm
Thin U
Abalone Flags
24 XJ
White w/ Abalone Purfling (B/N/H)
Chrome
Schaller Locking
Tonepros T3B-T & T1Z Locking
Seymour Duncan JB (B) / 59 (N) Zebra
Vol / Vol / Tone / Toggle
The 1000 has two extra frets, abalone inlays and binding and locking Schaller tuners. Everything else is the same. Both look to be damn fine spec'd geetars.
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My Edwards 130 Relic is currently sitting in my local parcelforce depot...Ive driven past it at least 3 times, but have to wait for them to let me know my customs reference number to pay import duties so I can pick it up - hopefully that will arrive today and I can get it tomorrow...the suspense is killing me! :(
If you already know the tracking reference (as opposed to the 17-digit Customs reference) you can phone up the ParcelForce depot and pay the charge by credit card. I did that a few weeks ago because I knew the letter was going to be delayed (my local deliveries were really terrible after the post strike). The letter actually arrived about a week after I got the guitar. :)
From what I have read, the Edwards necks are medium, betwixt a 50's and 60's size..its the one thing Im worried about...whether I can get on with the neck.
I think it depends on the model. They seem to try quite hard to get close to the model they're "copying". My white V has a neck like a '70s Gibson, my sunburst V is a lot like a modern Gibson "59 rounded" (presumably similar to the Custom Shop model it's based on, though I'm never likely to try one to find out). My LP is based on Jeff Beck's modified '54 "oxblood" LP and has a huge neck.
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If you already know the tracking reference (as opposed to the 17-digit Customs reference) you can phone up the ParcelForce depot and pay the charge by credit card. I did that a few weeks ago because I knew the letter was going to be delayed (my local deliveries were really terrible after the post strike). The letter actually arrived about a week after I got the guitar. :)
I wish I had done that - letter arrived yesterday so I picked it up on way to work today...and its now in its box next to me as I dont want to leave it in the car! :( so gonna have to carry it round till home time...
From what I have read, the Edwards necks are medium, betwixt a 50's and 60's size..its the one thing Im worried about...whether I can get on with the neck.
I think it depends on the model. They seem to try quite hard to get close to the model they're "copying". My white V has a neck like a '70s Gibson, my sunburst V is a lot like a modern Gibson "59 rounded" (presumably similar to the Custom Shop model it's based on, though I'm never likely to try one to find out). My LP is based on Jeff Beck's modified '54 "oxblood" LP and has a huge neck.
Sounds sensible - the spec for the 130 relic implies medium (i'm not sure if it is based on a particular guitar?) , but thats a 'japanulated' translation - i'm happy for it to be larger, skinny necks give me tendon trouble on the back of my hand. :cry:
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I wish I had done that - letter arrived yesterday so I picked it up on way to work today...and its now in its box next to me as I dont want to leave it in the car! :( so gonna have to carry it round till home time...
get it out and have a strum! they come with a nicely padded ESP gigbag so you can carry it around in that - easier than in a big box!
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Pfftsch it's a womans LP!!! :wink: :twisted:
Well then pass me a bra and point me to the rosé wine! 8)
I thought this was a womans LP. Although I've seen quite a few chaps playing this axe.
(http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/611a319f7e90b25829ae85de170495f0.jpg)
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Is that the ever-so-butch LP Goddess?
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It is indeed.
Not a guitar I would buy but this looks nice....
(http://www.gibson.com/Files//USA/2006products/LPGDSKCH1_p.jpg)
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I think the Goddess is a great idea:
Slimmer neck.
Lightweight body so no more spine-snapping.
But then it all falls apart with the reduced body size. It'll just look odd!
And the name too, sheesh, way to fem it up. They could've called it something a little more swish... Streamline or something.
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It is indeed.
Not a guitar I would buy but this looks nice....
(http://www.gibson.com/Files//USA/2006products/LPGDSKCH1_p.jpg)
I'd buy one in a second if it didn't have the skinny neck.
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get it out and have a strum! they come with a nicely padded ESP gigbag so you can carry it around in that - easier than in a big box!
you're talking up the edwards gig-bag? :?
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the LTD series are the most overpriced guitars around! Why would anyone pay over £500 for a MIK guitar? They're ridiculous - even the super low end cr@ppy ones made of agathis are going for about the same as an edwards (i.e. the ec-200qm, the model one down from the one your looking at has an agathis body, cr@ppy own-brand pickups, and a nasty thin body, for £420!!!)
I haven't tried the 400 series, but a localish shop had an ec1000... it's a nice guitar (especially for MIK), but at almost £900? that's twice what an edwards costs, and an edwards is nicer, IMO. :evil:
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the LTD series are the most overpriced guitars around! Why would anyone pay over £500 for a MIK guitar? They're ridiculous - even the super low end cr@ppy ones made of agathis are going for about the same as an edwards (i.e. the ec-200qm, the model one down from the one your looking at has an agathis body, cr@ppy own-brand pickups, and a nasty thin body, for £420!!!)
I haven't tried the 400 series, but a localish shop had an ec1000... it's a nice guitar (especially for MIK), but at almost £900? that's twice what an edwards costs, and an edwards is nicer, IMO. :evil:
I got my EC1000 mint condition for £400 including postage and hard case :twisted:
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the LTD series are the most overpriced guitars around! Why would anyone pay over £500 for a MIK guitar? They're ridiculous - even the super low end cr@ppy ones made of agathis are going for about the same as an edwards (i.e. the ec-200qm, the model one down from the one your looking at has an agathis body, cr@ppy own-brand pickups, and a nasty thin body, for £420!!!)
I haven't tried the 400 series, but a localish shop had an ec1000... it's a nice guitar (especially for MIK), but at almost £900? that's twice what an edwards costs, and an edwards is nicer, IMO. :evil:
Dave - Ofcourse Edwards are cheaper, but think about how much effort you have to go through to get a hold of one.
I can walk down the street and find many LTD guitars.
Personally, I don't know why people give them so much slack - I've played the Horizon and the Eclipse in the Deluxe series, a 400 Viper, and a 400 Mirage.
All were perfectly good guitars for the price range. And my mate's 400 Viper is perfectly fine.
Not nearly as good as mine ofcourse, but mine is like 3 times the price.
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I got my EC1000 mint condition for £400 including postage and hard case :twisted:
yeah, but that was second-hand.
Dave - Ofcourse Edwards are cheaper, but think about how much effort you have to go through to get a hold of one.
I can walk down the street and find many LTD guitars.
Personally, I don't know why people give them so much slack - I've played the Horizon and the Eclipse in the Deluxe series, a 400 Viper, and a 400 Mirage.
All were perfectly good guitars for the price range. And my mate's 400 Viper is perfectly fine.
Not nearly as good as mine ofcourse, but mine is like 3 times the price.
haha, it's actually easier for me to order an edwards than to get a LTD... getting a LTD would involve a 100 mile round trip.
But I do get what you're saying- FWIW, I haven't tried the 400 series, they're quite a bit cheaper. I was just saying I didn't see why anyone would pay the guts of £900 for an ec1000 when you could get an edwards for half that. Which is a nicer guitar, IMO.
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But I do get what you're saying- FWIW, I haven't tried the 400 series, they're quite a bit cheaper. I was just saying I didn't see why anyone would pay the guts of £900 for an ec1000 when you could get an edwards for half that. Which is a nicer guitar, IMO.
I think comparing LTD and Edwards is a bit apples-and-oranges really, ESP seem to be carefully targeting them at different markets.
Edwards are mostly "copies" of older Gibsons and Fenders, with attention paid to fairly vintage-correct fatter neck shapes and other details (I know they also do some superstrats, sharkfins etc). LTD seems to be aimed more at the rock/metal market, with more modern designs and skinny necks.
For example, I have an Edwards Potbelly which is a fairly conservative-looking PRS-ish guitar with a chunky neck. You can get the same body shape in the LTD range (the PB 500), but with a more aggressive-looking headstock and the "Thin U" neck shape.
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duuuude when'd yu get the potbelly??? PICS! love that guitar
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I think comparing LTD and Edwards is a bit apples-and-oranges really, ESP seem to be carefully targeting them at different markets.
Edwards are mostly "copies" of older Gibsons and Fenders, with attention paid to fairly vintage-correct fatter neck shapes and other details (I know they also do some superstrats, sharkfins etc). LTD seems to be aimed more at the rock/metal market, with more modern designs and skinny necks.
For example, I have an Edwards Potbelly which is a fairly conservative-looking PRS-ish guitar with a chunky neck. You can get the same body shape in the LTD range (the PB 500), but with a more aggressive-looking headstock and the "Thin U" neck shape.
true, but edwards have models similar to the LTD eclipses too... like EMG's etc.
I thought edwards were for the japanese market, and LTD were for the non-japanese market? could be wrong though. :)
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duuuude when'd yu get the potbelly??? PICS! love that guitar
Usual place - eBay :D . Don't have any pics of my own PB yet, but it's exactly like this one (for now):
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/sub3-1.jpg)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/sub1-1.jpg)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/84541_b.gif)
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true, but edwards have models similar to the LTD eclipses too... like EMG's etc.
I thought edwards were for the japanese market, and LTD were for the non-japanese market? could be wrong though. :)
Yeah, you're right of course (although LTDs are available in Japan too).
I'm oversimplifying the argument, the Edwards range is broader than I implied so they do overlap with LTD to an extent. But everything in the LTD range seems to be aimed at the metal/shred market, there's nothing of more traditional design. Even their LP-types have 24 frets (with 1 or 2 exceptions), flag inlays and pointy bits. :)
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That Potbelly is really nice :D I want one now :P Do they do them in any other colours than blue?
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yep
(http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/original/E-PO-96D_ACSB.jpg)
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:o That looks perfect. Why dont Ishibashi sell them? Or am I just cr@p at navigating their website?
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That Potbelly is really nice :D I want one now :P Do they do them in any other colours than blue?
It's also available in Amber Cherry Sunburst - although it's not very cherry and not very burst, if you see what I mean. It's a nice subtle colour, reminds me of a redder version of the Ibanez Antique Violin sunburst.
(Edit: Indy beat me to it! Pictures speak louder than words. :lol: )
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Do they have carved maple top or just veneer? I think I was considering one a while back but decided against it on the basis that it didn't have a carved top. But that was just the Ikebe spec so they could have just missed it out. Could you check Philly?
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It most definitely has a carved top, so I guess that rules out a veneer. It could be some kind of foto-flame film layer, I guess. And it appears to be a 2-piece top, centre jointed. I haven't looked in the pickup cavities yet, I'm not ready for a string change.
I have to admit I'm no expert on flamed maple. Most of my guitars have been mahogany, alder or solid colours. I did own a maple topped Hamer years ago, and you could see a lot of "depth" in the flame, and "movement" when you held the guitar at different angles. There's some of that on the Potbelly, but it's not as pronounced as the Hamer. Should there be any "movement" at all in a foto-flame top?
Also, the guitar has unstained maple "binding" like a PRS. The flame doesn't seem to continue into the edges of the maple visible here, which seems a little odd.
To be honest, at the price I wouldn't expect highly flamed maple, so if it is a "fake" top I'm really not bothered. Then again, the main body of the guitar is one piece of mahogany, so they haven't skimped there.
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Photo flame won't shimmer like a real piece of wood - it'll look less 3D.
You can veneer a carved top by the way, the Tokai LPs have maple caps and sycamore veneers.....
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Sorry I meant carved maple top. I was wondering if it was mahogany carved top+veneer or maple carved top+veneer. You can tell if you take one of the pups off; the maple should be a lot lighter in colour.
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Sorry I meant carved maple top. I was wondering if it was mahogany carved top+veneer or maple carved top+veneer. You can tell if you take one of the pups off; the maple should be a lot lighter in colour.
It's definitely a carved maple top, no doubt about that. It's at least 1/2" thick at the deepest part. The only question mark is whether the flame is genuine.
You can veneer a carved top by the way, the Tokai LPs have maple caps and sycamore veneers.....
That's interesting. I knew people like Tom Anderson and Warmoth did bent maple tops over the forearm contour of Strat bodies, but I didn't think you could veneer something as complex as a carved LP top.
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I've read that the Edwards have a flame veneers over a plain top.
Loads of folks on here seem to have Edwards's lately, but they're all Gibson copies (or a gorgeous Potbelly - which is still humbucker stylee).
Does anyone own a strat or tele flavoured edwards? I'd love to have a go on their tele. I suppose people but the fendery ones too - just not so much on this gibson-biased forum...
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They do Strat and Tele types. They also do relic and 'tribute' versions, but they tend to not have the Edwards logo on the headstocks of those.
Here's a link to some of the relics/tributes (http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/shopping_20.php?cate=1&brand=39&shop=&c_time=&h_price1=&h_price2=&fair=&keyword=&u_time=2007-03-09+21%3A04%3A18&state=1&s_cate=1&state2=&img_flg=1&order=1&page_cnt=24)
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i love the look of edwards guitars, theyre quality looks amazing for what they cost.
And i like them just cos theyre a little bit different and theyre not as common as ltds in the UK :P
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Yeah, you're right of course (although LTDs are available in Japan too).
I'm oversimplifying the argument, the Edwards range is broader than I implied so they do overlap with LTD to an extent. But everything in the LTD range seems to be aimed at the metal/shred market, there's nothing of more traditional design. Even their LP-types have 24 frets (with 1 or 2 exceptions), flag inlays and pointy bits. :)
true. :)
and that pb looks awesome. :twisted:
I've read that the Edwards have a flame veneers over a plain top.
Loads of folks on here seem to have Edwards's lately, but they're all Gibson copies (or a gorgeous Potbelly - which is still humbucker stylee).
Does anyone own a strat or tele flavoured edwards? I'd love to have a go on their tele. I suppose people but the fendery ones too - just not so much on this gibson-biased forum...
i'm considering ordering an edwards tele/strat. Don't hold you breath, though, as (a) you know how slow I normally am and (b) last time I enquired about them there was a several month wait- that's what basically twisted my arm into going for the LP instead.
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They do Strat and Tele types. They also do relic and 'tribute' versions, but they tend to not have the Edwards logo on the headstocks of those.
Here's a link to some of the relics/tributes (http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/shopping_20.php?cate=1&brand=39&shop=&c_time=&h_price1=&h_price2=&fair=&keyword=&u_time=2007-03-09+21%3A04%3A18&state=1&s_cate=1&state2=&img_flg=1&order=1&page_cnt=24)
(http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/img/goods/1/1/63028_b.gif)
That looks so nice :D
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They do Strat and Tele types. They also do relic and 'tribute' versions, but they tend to not have the Edwards logo on the headstocks of those.
Here's a link to some of the relics/tributes (http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/shopping_20.php?cate=1&brand=39&shop=&c_time=&h_price1=&h_price2=&fair=&keyword=&u_time=2007-03-09+21%3A04%3A18&state=1&s_cate=1&state2=&img_flg=1&order=1&page_cnt=24)
(http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/img/goods/1/1/63028_b.gif)
That looks so nice :D
Are you sure?! lol
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That looks so nice :D
Are you sure?! lol
I like the look of the Blackmore Strat, but not sure I'd get on with the scalloped fretboard. And you'd have to get a F**der decal from somewhere for the headstock.
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That's the Richie Blackmore tribute, it's got Blackmore style scalloped frets (different to the Yngwie type).
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ok its a little bit too yellowy but apart from that I think it looks good. Didnt realise it had scalloped board :oops:
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(http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/img/goods/1/1/88614_b.gif)
SEXY.
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Shame about the cr@p relic'ing on that one really, it looks way too fake. Other than that it is nice though, even if people would call a HH tele blasphemy :P
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AN HH TELE IS BLASPHEMY!!!
If it had the propper pickups i'd hit it
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To be fair, it is based on the "Tele-Gib" Seymour Duncan built for Jeff Beck - so it's not just any old HH Tele.
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That tele is cool, i like hh teles. Though would be better with a decal and un-reliced imo.
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To be fair, it is based on the "Tele-Gib" Seymour Duncan built for Jeff Beck - so it's not just any old HH Tele.
ohhh Jeff Beck played a disgusting tele like that did he? ohhh well now i want one! :P
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To be fair, it is based on the "Tele-Gib" Seymour Duncan built for Jeff Beck - so it's not just any old HH Tele.
ohhh Jeff Beck played a disgusting tele like that did he? ohhh well now i want one! :P
Here he is playing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZBeerUD-zc
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I got my EC1000 mint condition for £400 including postage and hard case :twisted:
You thief! That's such a good bargain, you must've mugged the guy.
(http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/img/goods/1/1/88614_b.gif)
SEXY.
That's basically my dream Tele - blonde, pair of humbuckers. FITNESS.
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AN HH TELE IS BLASPHEMY!!!
If it had the propper pickups i'd hit it
there's an edwards tele in blonde, surely?
http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/webshop/guitar/esp/edwards/ete86mlt.htm
(not exactly the same colour, but close... ish...)
That tele is cool, i like hh teles. Though would be better with a decal and un-reliced imo.
yeah, i can't stand relics. it's really annoying how the higher quality (allegedly) edwardses only come relic-ed.
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yeah, i can't stand relics. it's really annoying how the higher quality (allegedly) edwardses only come relic-ed.
Isn't it only the artist-inspired range that's relic'd? (Page LP, Johnny Thunders Junior, Beck Tele, SRV, Blackmore, Clapton and Frusciante Strats etc)
The double-cutaway Junior in the standard range is identical to the Thunders one. I don't think there's any difference in quality, apart from the relic treatment adding to the price.
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yeah, i can't stand relics. it's really annoying how the higher quality (allegedly) edwardses only come relic-ed.
Isn't it only the artist-inspired range that's relic'd? (Page LP, Johnny Thunders Junior, Beck Tele, SRV, Blackmore, Clapton and Frusciante Strats etc)
The double-cutaway Junior in the standard range is identical to the Thunders one. I don't think there's any difference in quality, apart from the relic treatment adding to the price.
Relic treatment hmm. I don't see the point. But then again I like new shiny guitars.
That Jeff Beck tele is the tits. Apart from the relic treatment of course.
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Isn't it only the artist-inspired range that's relic'd? (Page LP, Johnny Thunders Junior, Beck Tele, SRV, Blackmore, Clapton and Frusciante Strats etc)
The double-cutaway Junior in the standard range is identical to the Thunders one. I don't think there's any difference in quality, apart from the relic treatment adding to the price.
i have no idea. I heard they were higher quality, but that could of course be internet forum BS. They do generally have nicer pickups, though, and I *think* (not certain) someone with one of the relics posted the electronics, and they looked higher quality than the non-relics were meant to be (yes, my procrastination means I haven't taken off the electronics back plate yet)...
of course, this post could just be more internet forum BS...
:lol:
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I have to admit I'm no expert on flamed maple. Most of my guitars have been mahogany, alder or solid colours. I did own a maple topped Hamer years ago, and you could see a lot of "depth" in the flame, and "movement" when you held the guitar at different angles. There's some of that on the Potbelly, but it's not as pronounced as the Hamer. Should there be any "movement" at all in a foto-flame top?
Sorry to chip in late here, apparently it is possible to get the photo flame to react to light according to this http://www.guitargonauts.com/pick-31.html but it could be different for smaller areas such as the neck.
BTW love the potbelly (that just sounds so wrong)
Rob...
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Yeah, I just don't know about the top of the Potbelly. I think veneer's more likely than foto-flame, because the flame pattern doesn't seem to repeat (from what I've read of Fender foto-flames, the film was almost like wallpaper, with the pattern repeating every few inches). And the flame on mine isn't identical to ones I've seen in photos (although it's not wildly different either).
When I change the pickups I'll scr@pe a bit of paint out of the cavity and try to spot the veneer.
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I didn't know the pattern repeated over such a short distance in the photo flame jobbies, I suppose you would het away with tha on the neck.
As long as the guitar sounds, plays and looks good thats all that matters nayway, but it is interesting. I'd never heard of the potbelly till this thread and they sure look nice.
Rob...
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I didn't know the pattern repeated over such a short distance in the photo flame jobbies, I suppose you would het away with tha on the neck.
Well, maybe it doesn't repeat over a relatively small body, I'm not sure.
But have you seen the story of the Hamburglar on Fender foto-flame necks?
http://www.xhefriguitars.com/page7.html
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Well, maybe it doesn't repeat over a relatively small body, I'm not sure.
But have you seen the story of the Hamburglar on Fender foto-flame necks?
Excellent web page I wonder why they dropped the fotoflame (certainly they look excellent from almost every account I have read,) possibly it dosn't wear very well
Damn that page has mde my desire for a double bound Tele even worse, I wonder if Edwards do one <sigh>
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i think the rosewood-fretboard edwards teles are double bound, rob.
they're certainly bound at the front.
:)