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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Emory on December 05, 2007, 09:41:08 PM

Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Emory on December 05, 2007, 09:41:08 PM
So im almost ready to buy my new pickup(s) and im debateing on either probably warpig but maybe nailbomb or dimarzio drop sonic. I will be going back and forth from drop tuning and standard (playing rock/metal/experperimental/other). So im here asking the forum for your insight on what to get. If i can find a good combination I will buy a neck and bridge but if I only get one it will be a bridge pickup. Anyone that has acutually played on the drop sonic or anything like these other pickups let me know how you feel. Thanks

Im putting the new pickups in an Ibanez RG5EX1 by the way.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Roobubba on December 05, 2007, 09:53:21 PM
not sure what answer you're expecting, here...

but I'd say WARPIG :)

Roo
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Emory on December 05, 2007, 09:56:23 PM
well im not "expecting" any answer in particular. Im not very savvy on pickups yet. But im assuming BKP's are better than dimarzios because of the price difference
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Emory on December 05, 2007, 10:03:30 PM
or let me put it this way, what BKP combinations are good for what kind of sounds (staying in the rock and heavier categories). Also what about these Alnico V and Ceramic type pickups, whats the difference/what are they better for.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Mr Ed on December 05, 2007, 10:24:46 PM
Quote from: Emory
well im not "expecting" any answer in particular. Im not very savvy on pickups yet. But im assuming BKP's are better than dimarzios because of the price difference


Never assume that.

I like Dimarzio. I like Seymour Duncans.

However, most people will say that BKP's are highly rated not for price but because every single one is made to order, by hand. Overwound. Underwound. Custom housings. Custom pickups altogether.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: MDV on December 05, 2007, 10:30:22 PM
You cannot possibly put enough ">"'s between any BK and any dimarzio.

And thats not because of price. Thats because of ears.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: gwEm on December 05, 2007, 11:15:24 PM
its a price/performance trade-off..

i think dimarzios have a great price point and their range is interesting.

but these days i'll fit them, and be happy enough, but always thinking of BKPs. they just have that certain extra clarity and life to them.

my steinberger has a miracle man bridge and a SD '59 neck. the difference is quality is obvious - i'm never touching that SD, even for clean. in isolation, that '59 still sounds absolutely fine though.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: MDV on December 05, 2007, 11:33:51 PM
Word.

BK's have a huge 'Never Go Back' factor.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Emory on December 05, 2007, 11:53:11 PM
How smart would a warpig bridge with a painkiller or nailbomb neck be?
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: il˙ti on December 06, 2007, 12:21:08 AM
Depends on the kind of sound you want. Particularly from the neck I mean.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Emory on December 06, 2007, 01:53:41 AM
The sound im trying to get in general is something low and kind of deathy. I want the bridge to play the heavy chords and i guess the neck would be what i want to play the slightly less heavy notes. Id like it to be a bit bassy too.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: il˙ti on December 06, 2007, 02:46:17 AM
To be honest (and this is probably not a popular opinion here), you should wait with changing your pickups till you know more about what kind of sound you want. Things like how high an output you want compared to the ones you're currently using, if you want a brighter or warmer tone, if you want it very tight or less tight, if you want lots of mids or a more scooped sound, etc.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: dave_mc on December 06, 2007, 03:13:34 PM
Quote from: gwEm
my steinberger has a miracle man bridge and a SD '59 neck. the difference is quality is obvious - i'm never touching that SD, even for clean. in isolation, that '59 still sounds absolutely fine though.

agreed. I haven't played my legra for a couple of days, and my duncans in my edwards are actually starting to sound quite nice. once i go back to the legra, though, and then go back to the edwards, it's like "arg, they really aren't as nice, are they?"...
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Ted on December 06, 2007, 04:31:22 PM
Warpig & MQ

I love that combo.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: JamesHealey on December 07, 2007, 08:33:40 AM
Theres a lot of brand humping that goes on in this forum, the Dimarzio pickups are better than stock pickups, they have a great tone and are used by many, priced accordingly.

BKP's have more harmonic detail and a are a lot more dynamic, if you're after a really compressed shred sound the DiMarzio stuff is fantastic!

I'd like to say BKP sound superior in everyway but it depends on the application, I've owned virtually every aftermarket pickup and a huge variety of guitars and I know what works with what..

Im all for BKP im currently using mules and have previously used the VHII, Miracle Man, Cold Sweat, Warpig, Ceramic Warpig, Nailbomb and Irish Tours..

Each having there own merits, find a sound you really want and speak to tim he'll help you find the right pickups if your budget allows for BKPs.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Alex on December 08, 2007, 12:43:10 PM
I've only played the D-Sonic, not the Warpig, but I'd bet my ass from what I'm reading/hearing about the Warpig that those two pickups sounds totally different!

The Warpig apparently has a huge bottom end and a lot of warmth to its sound, also it should be quite dark (am I correct there?).
The D-Sonic is kind of the opposite, the bottom end is very tight and it has a lot of presence and is not dark at all. It also has a quite interesting clean sound.

That said, I really think only one of them would sound good in any given guitar - because one is either too dark and the other too bright. So you first need to find out more what your guitar really needs.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Emory on December 08, 2007, 01:46:15 PM
finally someone who has played a D Sonic... thanks for that info. I was about to buy that D sonic thinking i could get a dark type of sound out of it
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: HTH AMPS on December 08, 2007, 05:53:28 PM
I've played some Duncan and DiMarzio pickups I've liked, but BKP have all been in a different class.

I've also tried some other 'boutique' stuff like Fralin, WCR, High Order and some pickups wound by a guy on the LPF which he simply calls Timbuckers (he's called Tim too).  They had a definate PAF voice, but on the hotter side.  

I like my Mules better, but purely because the Mules evoke the sounds I've heard on those old records I love so much and no other PAF repro does that for me.  

 :twisted:
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: Ted on December 08, 2007, 07:08:46 PM
My warpigs are excellent. Absolutely everything I had hoped for. I only bought them as I was so impressed with my miracle men set and now BKP's all the way.

I have had VHII's in a Les Paul before and I really did not like those or the guitar for that matter.

I'd go for the Warpigs and if you don't like them you can sell them fairly easily on flea bay and then try our dimarzios.
Title: warpig vs. dimarzio
Post by: AdamB on December 09, 2007, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: Alex
I've only played the D-Sonic, not the Warpig, but I'd bet my ass from what I'm reading/hearing about the Warpig that those two pickups sounds totally different!

The Warpig apparently has a huge bottom end and a lot of warmth to its sound, also it should be quite dark (am I correct there?).
The D-Sonic is kind of the opposite, the bottom end is very tight and it has a lot of presence and is not dark at all. It also has a quite interesting clean sound. .


The ceramic warpig has a tighter bottom end than the alnico one if that helps