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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: hunter on December 11, 2007, 05:57:50 AM
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Well it seems they were playing in top form and were bringing on a top notch show. back in the business!
I am so hoping to be able to see them in case they follow up with a tour ...
http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/L/Led_Zeppelin/ConcertReviews/2007/12/10/4717249.html
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must have been quite a show!
i'd have been shouting for 'the immigrant song' if i'd have been there, my favourite led zep tune.
on the other hand, they did play this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZxukPZ0pjA
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I can't wait for the DVD
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:D Does anybody know what the set list was ?
The TV news are reporting that Zep have or are about to announce a tour ! :D
I read or heard somewhere that the band have been offered to do the tour somewhere in the region of £80, million per band member ! Yes thats pounds sterling not dollars. Just goes to show how much money the record company stands to make doesn`t it ? i mean if the band will recoup an estimated fortune of £32 million then how much in cash terms will the tour actually generate ? frightening really isn`t it :P
As for last night Plants voice has had it & he looks like Wurzel Cumage ! Page has aged better as has Jones but it did sound good & the British news media were showing clips of the gig last night [ Black Dog ] and i have to say although Plant couldn`t reach the notes he used to [ This is not a criticism as at the age of 60 + he cant be expected to hit those notes ] The band did sound great even the You tube clip posted here obviously taken with a mobile phone [ cell phone to our American cousins ! ] Kashmir still sounded great !!!!
:D 8)
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=bYGu1PWRPKc
jesus his voice really has had it
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I can't wait for the DVD
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As a singer I can tell you that at the age of 61 there is no way on earth he'll ever have the range he had 40 years ago. Even the legendary Pavarotti had been critisised for many years before his death this year that his voice had lost its edge, and opera singing is a lot better for your voice than the tortuous screaming of rock.
The older you get the more the edge comes off the voice culminating in losing up to tone and a half off the top of your range.
Those clips don't exactly show Plant off in the best light, but I have to admit that the clips on the BBC news this morning through my big TV rather than a wooly copy off Youtube sounded a lot better. Yes the voice hasn't the range, but it now has a mellowness to it that I feel almost suits the blues better than the ragged screech he used to have.
I'd pay to see them......simple as that :D
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They are old folks now, though it still sounds pretty damn good from the clips and it must have been magical actually being there.
Can't believe they didn't play the immigrant song!! :o
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Trampled underfoot was wicked
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I'd pay to see them......simple as that :D
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They were never going to be as good as they were 30 years ago- they are old men! But they are legends, and I'd give my right leg to see them.
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Dazed and confused was pretty cool as well page got the old violin bow out. He has these cool lazers going around him while he was slaping the guitar with the bow.
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Man they are sounding awesome, even if plants voice isn't quite what it used to be :D I so hope they decide to do a tour!
:D Does anybody know what the set list was ?
Heres the setlist they played:
Good Times, Bad Times
Ramble On
Black Dog
In My Time of Dying
For Your Life
Trampled Under Foot
Nobody’s Fault But Mine
No Quarter
Since I’ve Been Lovin’ You
Dazed and Confused
Stairway To Heaven
The Song Remains the Same
Misty Mountain Hop
Kashmir
Encore:
Whole Lotta Love
Rock and Roll
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Can't believe they didn't play the immigrant song!! :o
Wouldn't surprise me if that was a strategic decision to spare Plant's voice! ;)
Obviously I've only heard/seen the dodgy YouTube clips and read the reviews, but it sounded like the pulled it off ... honestly, better than I had expected/feared. Dunno if they'll tour, but I'd sure like to see the DVD. Seems only fair that us "normal" folks who couldn't get tickets or go to the show should get some kind of chance to share in the fun! 'Cause it sounds like it was fun! 8)
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there was a good picture of Jimmy Page in the free paper on the train, I was quite surprised to see he was using an engl cab, he also had a pair of old marshall amps (something pre jcm800) and another cab with no name on it, I'd guess it was a marshall
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I am such a non-Led Zep fan, this is the most coveted reunion in the world ever... and boy don't they know it. I've smelt a money rat since day one and now reports that they're set to earn £1Bn with a world tour just pours hot water all over this idea that they only got back together for the charity gig for that Atlantic Records guy.
John Bonham was amazing, one of the greatest drummers of all-time but as far as I'm concerned, Plant could never sing and Page is a sloppy, greatly over-rated guitar player.
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I saw a part of Black Dog on the news. It took me 10 seconds to recognize the song. I thought it was sloppy and I didn't like Page's tone; too much compressed gain.
Don't flame me, I like Zep as much as the next guy and I can't judge a whole gig on a 30 second clip.
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I saw a part of Black Dog on the news. It took me 10 seconds to recognize the song. I thought it was sloppy and I didn't like Page's tone; too much compressed gain.
Don't flame me, I like Zep as much as the next guy and I can't judge a whole gig on a 30 second clip.
His tone was very modern sounding I thought. Wasn't bad, just not expecting it.
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I am such a non-Led Zep fan, this is the most coveted reunion in the world ever... and boy don't they know it. I've smelt a money rat since day one and now reports that they're set to earn £1Bn with a world tour just pours hot water all over this idea that they only got back together for the charity gig for that Atlantic Records guy.
Eh, I don't think any of them are hurting for money -- though not many would turn down a few million! :lol: Still, everyone knows Plant is the most reluctant (while, in contrast, I think Page would happy spend every moment remaining to him on stage with as much of Zeppelin as he can find ;)).
John Bonham was amazing, one of the greatest drummers of all-time but as far as I'm concerned, Plant could never sing and Page is a sloppy, greatly over-rated guitar player.
Plant's voice can certainly be an acquired taste. Similar to, if different than, Ozzy, I think of Plant's voice as being more distinctive than anything else (though distinctiveness can be a powerful thing in voices -- being recognizable can be better than being good!). As for Page, I always think of him as "the world's sloppiest guitar hero" :) yet ... there's something in his playing that gets to me. I also think Page's talents as a producer are perhaps more potent than his talents as a guitarist and often neglected.
Bonham, of course, was an untouchable god of drumming, and without the rhythm section of John Paul Jones (whose own talents are often forgotten) and Bonham, there's an argument to be made that Page and Plant would have never been more than a heavy-blues version of Donovan. ;) But they were all together, so that's all right. :) And like 'em or not, they made a hell of an impact on rock music -- even if they don't tour, it's nice to see the old bar-stewards summon up a "make 'em miss us" performance like that. Gives us all hope for when we're in our 60s! (if we're not there already ;))
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As for Page, I always think of him as "the world's sloppiest guitar hero"
I can dig that. I respect anyone who does something different at their time, and they did.
Bonham, of course, was an untouchable god of drumming, and without the rhythm section of John Paul Jones (whose own talents are often forgotten) and Bonham, there's an argument to be made that Page and Plant would have never been more than a heavy-blues version of Donovan.
Without a shadow of a doubt.
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I am such a non-Led Zep fan, this is the most coveted reunion in the world ever... and boy don't they know it. I've smelt a money rat since day one and now reports that they're set to earn £1Bn with a world tour just pours hot water all over this idea that they only got back together for the charity gig for that Atlantic Records guy.
John Bonham was amazing, one of the greatest drummers of all-time but as far as I'm concerned, Plant could never sing and Page is a sloppy, greatly over-rated guitar player.
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Oh excuse me, aren't I allowed to not like a band? Fine, I'll continue then - I also don't like The Beatles, Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones.
Chew on that.
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And conversely I'm allowed not to agree with a 'review'. I will now stomp my feet, run to my room slam the door, and stare angrily at wall with my arms crossed wishing ill will upon all those who do not agree with me.
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By all means, disagree... let's debate... but a string of rolleyes is hardly the most eloquent way of putting it across now is it?
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I'm not going to change your mind and your not going to change mine. It's like religion. Back to the topic 8)
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Don't get me started on religion. :lol:
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Oh dear oh dear.
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Too much caffeine Mr Ed?
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Too much caffeine Mr Ed?
Why?
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Well, let's hope there'll be some kinda recording available on DVD/mp3, I am looking forward to it - as I am looking forward to see the review and gear report in Guitarist Magazine - well I hope they will do it
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I was on business trip in London and on my flight back today read a quite nasty article in Daily Mail about Rock Dinosaurs that should stop gigging and stuiff - really stupid article man.
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Oh excuse me, aren't I allowed to not like a band? Fine, I'll continue then - I also don't like The Beatles, Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones.
Chew on that.
Now that's just silly.
If you jump into a thread about a band which is meant to be positive, and start in with how much you don't like em, you have to expect some heat.
Now you've gone from general trolling to just picking a fight.
Shame on you. PDT_008
Perhaps a "Why I don't like Led Zep" thread would be better, though I suspect it will be universally ignored.
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Oh excuse me, aren't I allowed to not like a band? Fine, I'll continue then - I also don't like The Beatles, Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones.
Chew on that.
Now that's just silly
I agree regarding the Stones though 8)
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Oh excuse me, aren't I allowed to not like a band? Fine, I'll continue then - I also don't like The Beatles, Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones.
Chew on that.
Now that's just silly
I agree regarding the Stones though 8)
I was referring to his approach, not what he said. (I don't like half the bands he mentioned, either) :sing1:
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Goddamn...........have I forgotten how damn good "Kashmir" is? Somehow or other I missed that off my iPod when I loaded it up again recently.
If nothing else the reunion has got me listening to all my old Led Zep again and reminding me how bloody good most of it is. I know there are going to be people out there who don't like Zep like Mr Ed, but that's cool........If everyone agreeded with everything everyone else said then it would be a seriously boring world. :D
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I like pretty much all Led Zep apart from Kashmir! I don't know why but it's that intro that just annoys me.
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I like pretty much all Led Zep
Pretty much all?!!! I'm sorry that's just not good enough.... :lol:
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apparently since Monday Led Zep cd sales have gone through the roof! i'm internally split on whether or not they should tour, maybe they should leave it at one show and preserve the mystique! but if they do, i'll still try to see them :wink:
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i'm internally split on whether or not they should tour, maybe they should leave it at one show and preserve the mystique! but if they do, i'll still try to see them :wink:
Likewise. I don't want them to end up like Black Sabbath, falling into mini-factions with different managers, dropping hints about new albums and never recording them.
I think they should probably call it a day after this one big UK show. Even though I didn't get to see them. It gives a nice sense of closure.
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I saw Page & Plant on both tours so if I miss out on this one I won't be too upset. I think they should tour if that's what they really want to do. If they still enjoy playing the songs and working together why not.... it's what musicians do.
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There are rumours that the band was heard post-show considering a string of dates and Madison Square Garden in NYC, though I've not heard anything very convincing yet. I feel pretty sure that they'll release a DVD though. It was definitely filmed, and I suspect it's just a matter of time to let Page pore through it, slicing and dicing and looking for bum notes to erase ... ;)
I think it would be a nice gesture to tour -- this is a band (more or less) with a lot of fans, young and old, who'd like the chance to see them. I don't expect it would do me much good, since they probably won't play Colombia :lol: but they'd probably do a credible job. Just so long as they didn't turn it into the Ozzy-fronted Sabbath reunion deal, wheeling out the same old set-list for several years of touring. I don't mind a quick nostalgia trip (insofar as I can claim nostalgia for a band that broke up just after my 9th birthday ;)), but without new material this would get boring quickly, whether I'd seen a show or not. I know Page has publicly hinted that he'd not just like to tour but do new recordings -- but that would surprise me a lot more than a tour of any size.
Though ... still .... After the Page/Plant thing in the '90s, I remember thinking that they should really get together with JPJ and work on new material, perhaps in collaboration with others, under some non-Zep or "post-Zep" moniker. Leave the existing LZ legacy as it is, but do something different that continues the theme. This is kind of what the "Heaven & Hell"/"Mob Rules line-up" Sabbathy contingent appear to be doing, with their tour under the H&H name and the apparent plans to record a new album next year under it as well. I think that's a good approach. It lets people who created great music together work together again without the dangers of backtracking over the legacy.
That's kind of one of the good things that can come out of the reunion things (dodgy though they can be). I mean, I love old Jethro Tull to death, but though the band never technically "broke up", it evolved more and more into the Ian Anderson Show than it even was to start, and the vibe of the recordings drifted farther and farther those of the more integrated line-ups. Now while the new "Heaven & Hell" songs (technically released as "Black Sabbath", I suppose) may not be the greatest things since sliced bread, they sound respectably like what I want from Dio-era Sabbath. Heck, I even have a soft spot for "Yallah" from the '90s Page & Plant reunion.
Well, a little stroll down memory lane is nice, but half-decent new material quickly becomes better. If the reunited LZ aren't going to pursue that route, then I don't think more than a brief tour to give a few more punters a shot at the nostalgia are worth the trouble.
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I wish I could have been at that show!
I think they should do one more show...in New Orleans in fact.
We can say they are helping to rebuild New Orleans. :wink:
I bought the remastered dvd The Song Remains the Same last Friday. It sounds amazing! The bass was rattling my walls and the drums were kicking me in the chest. I wish I had the original to compare sounds. This was the first time I ever watched it.
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bought the remastered dvd The Song Remains the Same last Friday. It sounds amazing! The bass was rattling my walls and the drums were kicking me in the chest. I wish I had the original to compare sounds.
Never owned the former DVD, but the former CD release didn't have the world's best sound (though I've always like the "No Quarter" perfomance). The tracks from those concerts on the DVD release from a few years back sound excellent, though, so I would certainly not expect the new Song Remains the Same DVD (or CD) to sound worse. :)
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bought the remastered dvd The Song Remains the Same last Friday. It sounds amazing! The bass was rattling my walls and the drums were kicking me in the chest. I wish I had the original to compare sounds.
Never owned the former DVD, but the former CD release didn't have the world's best sound (though I've always like the "No Quarter" perfomance). The tracks from those concerts on the DVD release from a few years back sound excellent, though, so I would certainly not expect the new Song Remains the Same DVD (or CD) to sound worse. :)
I'm gonna pickup the cd this weekend. Page said that he revamped it. I'm guilty of listening to alot of Zep over the weekend.
Since I've Been Loving You moves me every time I hear it.
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I mean, I love old Jethro Tull to death, but though the band never technically "broke up", it evolved more and more into the Ian Anderson Show than it even was to start, and the vibe of the recordings drifted farther and farther those of the more integrated line-ups.
That's precisely what I worry about with Zeppelin. OK, they split for non-musical reasons, but they already felt like they were winding down - longer gaps between albums etc. I think the split happened at the right time to leave a "complete" musical legacy (although TBH even In Through The Out Door lacked a certain something).
Too many bands carry on after the magic has gone. Look at the shitee Aerosmith have produced for the last 20 years, or Scorpions (to be fair, the new album is great, after a long string of duds). Maybe Led Zeppelin would come up with something fantastic, but if they didn't it would tarnish what went before.
At least they'd never go down the road of bringing in external songwriters or flavour-of-the-month producers.
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The Song remains The Same is an excellent DVD. The intro is a bit too 'Easy Rider acid trip' to me but the music is just fantastic. It has the best version of Whole Lotta Love I've ever seen.
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New Orleans tour played on Pontchatrain Beach
"When the Levee Breaks.....Again"
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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That's precisely what I worry about with Zeppelin. OK, they split for non-musical reasons, but they already felt like they were winding down - longer gaps between albums etc. I think the split happened at the right time to leave a "complete" musical legacy (although TBH even In Through The Out Door lacked a certain something).
Indeed -- and Sabbath were in this state, too, with the late-period Ozzy albums getting pretty iffy. The Heaven & Hell album might as well have been a different band. OK, not one that lasted long ;) but it was a shot in the arm for the music while it lasted (before getting iffy again ;)). Likewise, just before Dickinson left, Maiden were getting a bit dodgy; even though they carried on with Blaze, I think what they did after Bruce came back showed improvement. Things were better for Bruce -- and Adrian Smith -- going off and doing something else for a while.
Of course, "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love" aren't shining stars in the Beatles catalogue, though we could try making the excuse that the remaining Beatles were limited to working with leftover scr@ps that were perhaps not the greatest moments in John Lennon's song-writing career .....
But maybe the new H&H album will be cool, and I suspect that the surviving LZ members would produce more interesting material together than apart (which doesn't mean it would definitely work ;) just that they'd maybe have a better chance of doing something cool that way.) Otherwise ... well, I guess whatever riffs Page claims to have been storing up will remain in the closet!
Maybe Led Zeppelin would come up with something fantastic, but if they didn't it would tarnish what went before.
A different name for a slightly different project, perhaps, blending more recent influences from the various separate projects they've worked on (not that Page has done much on his own).
At least they'd never go down the road of bringing in external songwriters or flavour-of-the-month producers.
Or the Santana thing of hauling in loads of younger guests! That woulda been OK if it had just been Supernatural, I suppose, but then he kept doing it! :P Iommi did the same on his 2000 solo album, with mixed results, I think, but then got back to business on his Fused album and then with H&H.
Hmmm. Page, Santana, Iommi .... all great guitarists in search of a band! ;)
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Too much caffeine Mr Ed?
Why?
I'm sure you don't need me to state the obvious.
You don't like them. Fine. Who gives a $%&#!
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The Song remains The Same is an excellent DVD. The intro is a bit too 'Easy Rider acid trip' to me but the music is just fantastic. It has the best version of Whole Lotta Love I've ever seen.
I went to see a cinema screening of the new version of the DVD the other day and it was brilliant :D I really love the live version of Going to California on it!
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Well, let's hope there'll be some kinda recording available on DVD/mp3, I am looking forward to it - as I am looking forward to see the review and gear report in Guitarist Magazine - well I hope they will do it
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I was on business trip in London and on my flight back today read a quite nasty article in Daily Mail about Rock Dinosaurs that should stop gigging and stuiff - really stupid article man.
I read some of that too. Well it is The Daily Mail after all, so it's not going to carry any weight. It seems to me that the critics of 'Rock Dinosaurs' are a bunch of bitter, twisted, jealous, sniveling little tossers. Like anyone cares what a Daily Mail journo's got to say for his sorry self! These muscians won't be around for ever, so I say enjoy them while you can folks cos' when their gone there gone for good.
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It seems to me that the critics of 'Rock Dinosaurs' are a bunch of bitter, twisted, jealous, sniveling little tossers. Like anyone cares what a Daily Mail journo's got to say for his sorry self! These muscians won't be around for ever, so I say enjoy them while you can folks cos' when their gone there gone for good.
+1
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Anyone's who's a "rock amoeba" now can only hope to last so long as to become a rock dinosaur some day! 8)
(I wonder if the writer of the article thinks he/she himself/herself should stop writing once they themselves reach a "certain age"? ;))
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Apparently once you're over 50 you're not allowed to have any passion for music.
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:D I`m all for LZ doing another album. I agree most bands run out of steam at some point but what they really need is a good break from the album, tour, album, tour, Routine & also a break from each other as well. Zep have had that. I`m not sure how relevant anything they might write may be in this day & age, but it would be worth hearing surely....
As for the argument of not using the Zep name. To be honest its rubbish & sounds like alot of people trying to be precious. Frankly Grow up ! just for the record JB was the drummer, to my knowledge he didn`t actually write a single song, So what difference is it going to make when writing the album now ?
As for a tour well as JM said there not going to be around for much longer so make the most of it while you can.
:D 8)
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At least they'd never go down the road of bringing in external songwriters or flavour-of-the-month producers.
Or the Santana thing of hauling in loads of younger guests! That woulda been OK if it had just been Supernatural, I suppose, but then he kept doing it! :P Iommi did the same on his 2000 solo album, with mixed results, I think, but then got back to business on his Fused album and then with H&H.
Hmmm. Page, Santana, Iommi .... all great guitarists in search of a band! ;)
Have you tried Arjen Anthony Lucassen's (as in Star One) Ayreon albums? I have The Human Equation and it's easily the best album I own (it even knocked Deloused in the Comatorium off the top perch (It also trounced Fear of a Blank Planet by Porcupine Tree which, apart from the title track, was a major disappointment to me. I feel I should get Deadwing or Live in Absentia as I know they can be good.). Listen to that and say that guest artists are a bad idea album to album (Devin Townsend's lyrics are trite though; WTF does 'Motion personified alpha' mean. :lol: Go Arjen!)
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Have you tried Arjen Anthony Lucassen's (as in Star One) Ayreon albums? I have The Human Equation and it's easily the best album I own (it even knocked Deloused in the Comatorium off the top perch [...].
Funny you should mention that -- I just stumbled across Ayreon the other week on MySpace and kind of dug what I heard! :) Haven't gotten any farther than that, though (I'm not sure the relatively small local Tower Records, which the best stocked shop I've found so far, carries the album! ;)).
Listen to that and say that guest artists are a bad idea album to album
:) I'm not saying they're a bad idea per se, just that when artists start repeating that formula it has tended to get old for me. I'll always be happy to be proved wrong, though! :)