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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: WezV on December 19, 2007, 08:14:44 PM

Title: My xmas present
Post by: WezV on December 19, 2007, 08:14:44 PM
.... to myself!!!

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Electronic_tuners/Peterson_VS-F_StroboFlip.html


seem to be doing more and more set-up work for people so i have been eyeing these up for a while..  

 Well i got payed today from the day job and my bank balance looked healthy.  That may be because i was payed a week earlier than usual but i am ignoring that for now.  Also ignoring that its 6 weeks till my next pay :(

at least i will be in tune when i am begging on the streets!!
Title: My xmas present
Post by: sambo on December 19, 2007, 08:17:15 PM
Wow it looks like it's from the future....  :o
Title: My xmas present
Post by: noodleplugerine on December 19, 2007, 08:27:21 PM
Awesome!

i want one :D
Title: My xmas present
Post by: Mr Ed on December 19, 2007, 08:29:19 PM
I want a Robostomp so badly.
Title: My xmas present
Post by: Ratrod on December 20, 2007, 11:53:06 AM
It looks like something from Star Trek.
Title: My xmas present
Post by: WezV on December 20, 2007, 12:14:14 PM
It should be good, apparently 30 times more accurate than a normal tuner and also offers 'sweetened' tunings - be interested to see how they sound.

the main advantage will be theoretically being able to set intonation to 1/1000th of a semitone.  As well as being able to tune bagpipes - that ones going to come in really handy  :wink:

i was tempted by the strobostomp but this makes more sense for my use,
Title: My xmas present
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on December 20, 2007, 01:25:12 PM
Phil King has a Peterson of some variety, I forget which one; I've used it several times. It's a wonderful tuner, and an essential piece of kit for setups!!
Title: My xmas present
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on December 20, 2007, 01:36:45 PM
looks like that'll be a cool present, you'll also be able to do indian tunings, with quarter tones! seems like the best tuner ever made.
Title: My xmas present
Post by: Scotty477 on December 20, 2007, 01:48:13 PM
That looks very nice.

I'm a tuning freak. My mate gets quite annoyed with the time I spend hearing a string 'out' by just a fraction.

I could be tempted to get one of these ... or a new Gibson LP Robot guitar  :)
Title: My xmas present
Post by: MDV on December 20, 2007, 02:44:33 PM
Looks snazzy, but can the human ear distinguish 1/1000th of a semitone, or a machinehead be turned by such a small degree?

I doubt it. I doubt it lots.
Title: My xmas present
Post by: Philly Q on December 20, 2007, 03:10:20 PM
Quote from: Machinehead
I could be tempted to get one of these ... or a new Gibson LP Robot guitar  :)

But the Gibson tunes itself - as a tuning freak, would you be prepared to relinquish control?  Could you trust it?
Title: My xmas present
Post by: WezV on December 20, 2007, 03:24:02 PM
i think one of the problems guitarist had with the gibson guitar is that it didn't have the sweetened tunings they were used to from a tuner like this.


It may be overkill having a tuner this accurate but what the hell!!
Title: My xmas present
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on December 20, 2007, 06:25:44 PM
Quote from: Ratrod
It looks like something from Star Trek.


Yeah - The Next Generation!

My old Conn Stobotuner look more like something off the old B&W Flash Gordon Episodes.

(http://www.guateque.net/MUSEO_4.jpg)
Title: My xmas present
Post by: sambo on December 20, 2007, 06:31:37 PM
Quote from: MDV
Looks snazzy, but can the human ear distinguish 1/1000th of a semitone, or a machinehead be turned by such a small degree?

I doubt it. I doubt it lots.


I share your many lots of doubting....

BUT IT HAS SO MANY LEDs WHO CARES?!
Title: My xmas present
Post by: WezV on December 20, 2007, 07:02:04 PM
wow - that old one looks so cool!!

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Looks snazzy, but can the human ear distinguish 1/1000th of a semitone, or a machinehead be turned by such a small degree?

I doubt it. I doubt it lots.


you may be right, who knows!!  the proof will be in the playing.  If the guitars i set up sound that little bit sweeter and more musical people will notice.

I should emphasize that i want it for getting intonation spot on. rather than being anal about being perfectly in tune at all times.  I do it with an ordinary tuner at the moment but i also use my ears and i didnt realise how much i relied on my ears till i got an infection the other week.  

i feel that guitars i set-up should be intonated as accurately as humanly possible, unfortunately the human ear is letting me down at the moment so the robot has to come in
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Post by: Underground_Player on December 20, 2007, 07:30:02 PM
I got a Peterson 'mk2' floor tuner a few months back and it's very good. I have to say I got it as much for the DI out and ability to run another pedal off its own battery -  I mean how useful can one pedal be?!! And as far as I know it's the only tuner that's true bypass!
It is really good for intonation too....problem is when you've got one it's hard not to pay too much attention to it! Put it this way I've not managed to adjust a single string absolutely in tune yet - you can waste so much time trying, it's almost too accurate!


PS I appreciate the Pete Cornish true bypass ethic, it's just that my old Korg floor tuner had another one of the 'bright sounding' buffers that really get to me!
Title: My xmas present
Post by: Henk on December 20, 2007, 07:37:49 PM
I allways found my fork to be the most acurate, still searched a bit for the best resonating factor, never though being too exact with 440 hz A tuning payed off.

However since you probably do intonation and such it is a very interesting tool to have.
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Post by: Underground_Player on December 20, 2007, 07:50:26 PM
I tend to tune the A slightly flat if anything...even perfectly intonated it's slightly sharp around the 5th to 10th on both my guitars. Also it seems to help tuning the top E, A and D to the frets 'in the middle' for me because that's where I play most! (btw can you tell I've got a night off? 3 forum posts in one night, shocker!!)
Tuning to a most-used open chord is useful too without a Buzz'd guitar. And tuning the G slightly flat works for most things. And the low E slightly flat sometimes so you don't 'hit it sharp'. Sh!t I'm in Peterson mode, ha!
Title: My xmas present
Post by: WezV on December 20, 2007, 08:03:29 PM
is your floor unit programmable.  Not sure its a feature i will use much on the flip but it sounds like you would!!
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Post by: Underground_Player on December 20, 2007, 08:21:51 PM
Yes it's programmable, although I haven't really used that funnily enough! Prob because being in a function band there's a pretty wide variety of songs and tuning needs if you see what I mean...eg for 'Good Times' I try and tune it to the third chord because that's the one that seems to sound slightly out otherwise - when it's the same four chords for 5 mins that matters! Then Land of 1000 Dances is pretty much two double stops for the whole thing so I tune to one of them!

Or even better, I try not to waste time/stare at my feet at all, ha!

I've heard really great things about the flip ones so I'm sure you'll get on with it whether you use the programming function or not.
Title: My xmas present
Post by: badgermark on December 20, 2007, 08:26:37 PM
Pah! I'm not so anal about tuning. As long as it doesn't sound out I'm ok. I always make sure myself and the guitarist and bassist in my band are in tune with each other though. Not enough band's tune to each other, and it shows.
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Post by: Underground_Player on December 20, 2007, 08:43:04 PM
All that anal-ness though is specifically to avoid sounding out of tune! As I said though I try to tune at gigs as little as possible because it looks very bad! All the above rubbish I've written is only for the '10secs spare and no-one's looking' moments!