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Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: Ted on December 31, 2007, 08:52:46 AM

Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: Ted on December 31, 2007, 08:52:46 AM
Hey guys,

I've read previous posts about speaker sensitivity and some speakers (12 inch ones) sounding better at low volumes. How do I work out speaker sensitivity by looking at the tech specifications?

Basically I am after a new cab and want speakers which sound good at fairly low volume at home.

Thanks, Ted
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: PhilKing on December 31, 2007, 10:50:11 AM
The sensitivity should be given in the specs.  Basically a speaker with a lower db rating will be quieter.  This is good for home use as you can crank the amp more without making everyone deaf.
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: Ted on December 31, 2007, 11:01:12 AM
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Basically a speaker with a lower db rating will be quieter


Yes thats the answer I was after. Cheers Phil.
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: Henk on December 31, 2007, 12:25:49 PM
I personally find low wattage speaker(usually have low DB rating) sound better and have a more senitive response and alot better highs aswell at lower volumes. The big maget speakers(100w>) usually sound very muddy unless cranked IMHO.
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: Ted on December 31, 2007, 02:09:44 PM
I might try the G12H heritage, always wanted one of those.
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: PhilKing on December 31, 2007, 02:32:26 PM
I have the G12M Heritage with my MiniMat and it sounds great.  The Eminence Blue Tick Hound also works really well with it.
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: sgmypod on December 31, 2007, 02:33:20 PM
G12h with my TT sounds great
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: Twinfan on December 31, 2007, 06:03:39 PM
Quote from: Henk
The big maget speakers(100w>) usually sound very muddy unless cranked IMHO.


I wouldn't say they sound muddy from my experience, just not as warm.  V30s sound hinky unless you crank them, for example.
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: HTH AMPS on December 31, 2007, 06:58:02 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Quote from: Henk
The big maget speakers(100w>) usually sound very muddy unless cranked IMHO.


I wouldn't say they sound muddy from my experience, just not as warm.  V30s sound hinky unless you crank them, for example.


I can't claim to have tried every speaker on the market, but I'm with Dave here - I find higher wattage speakers to be fairly bright unless you crank them.
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: Twinfan on December 31, 2007, 07:06:50 PM
Yep, they're bright too.  Oh, and I meant HONKY not hinky  :oops:
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: Henk on January 01, 2008, 11:39:52 AM
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
Quote from: Twinfan
Quote from: Henk
The big maget speakers(100w>) usually sound very muddy unless cranked IMHO.


I wouldn't say they sound muddy from my experience, just not as warm.  V30s sound hinky unless you crank them, for example.


I can't claim to have tried every speaker on the market, but I'm with Dave here - I find higher wattage speakers to be fairly bright unless you crank them.


Well OK, it is a long time ago and ill put it more specific. The old version black spiders(150w each i think) in my peavy 2x12 combo didnt even want to try sounding half decent untill i cranked the 120w amp past noon, at least to me they sounded hissy, muddy and dark so certainly NOT erhmmm..............

HENKY!  :lol:
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: HTH AMPS on January 01, 2008, 12:00:07 PM
Quote from: Henk
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
Quote from: Twinfan
Quote from: Henk
The big maget speakers(100w>) usually sound very muddy unless cranked IMHO.


I wouldn't say they sound muddy from my experience, just not as warm.  V30s sound hinky unless you crank them, for example.


I can't claim to have tried every speaker on the market, but I'm with Dave here - I find higher wattage speakers to be fairly bright unless you crank them.


Well OK, it is a long time ago and ill put it more specific. The old version black spiders(150w each i think) in my peavy 2x12 combo didnt even want to try sounding half decent untill i cranked the 120w amp past noon, at least to me they sounded hissy, muddy and dark so certainly NOT erhmmm..............

HENKY!  :lol:


maybe that was just the amp???  :wink:
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: Henk on January 01, 2008, 02:14:43 PM
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
Quote from: Henk
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
Quote from: Twinfan
Quote from: Henk
The big maget speakers(100w>) usually sound very muddy unless cranked IMHO.


I wouldn't say they sound muddy from my experience, just not as warm.  V30s sound hinky unless you crank them, for example.


I can't claim to have tried every speaker on the market, but I'm with Dave here - I find higher wattage speakers to be fairly bright unless you crank them.


Well OK, it is a long time ago and ill put it more specific. The old version black spiders(150w each i think) in my peavy 2x12 combo didnt even want to try sounding half decent untill i cranked the 120w amp past noon, at least to me they sounded hissy, muddy and dark so certainly NOT erhmmm..............

HENKY!  :lol:


maybe that was just the amp???  :wink:


Could be anything from effects to guitar, cables or what about my ears.....

Anyway we seem to agree on the part that high watt speakers dont sound very well at low volumes, fair enough for me at least.
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: gwEm on January 01, 2008, 06:30:19 PM
lower sensitivity, lower power rating... why not a G12M as Phil suggested.

G12H has a heavy magnet as your no doubt aware - that makes a more sensitive speaker - louder for the same input power.
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: Henk on January 02, 2008, 05:27:19 PM
Glad to hear anyone has heard of a greenback AT ALL around here, sometimes it seems im the only one getting into that godly tone  :P

Anyway, it took me several years to get the voicing on those right to my ears so i do understand it would not have instant appeal. They do however cover any vintage sound there is, especially the old, well broken in greenbacks just have so much righteous tone magic in them anyone giving them a true chance will get hooked for sure.
Title: Speaker sensitivity
Post by: Woogie on January 02, 2008, 07:35:34 PM
I`m scared of putting high powered speakers in my JCM800 now incase it gets EVEN brighter!!