Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: ledzettervall on January 02, 2008, 04:26:16 AM
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Just equipped my 2001 Gibson R9 with unpotted Mules calibrated set with nickel covers. I made this clip with my marshall 1974x and the left channel is the les paul in middle position playing the chords with the amp tremolo. The right channel plays lead with the neck pickup.
Neither of the tracks has any EQ applied to it.
If this works I will try to post some more clips at different settings and pickup combinations. Enjoy!
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Thats really good. Beautiful tone. Great playing too.
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Welcome!
Great sound, great playing!
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Wow, that sounds amazing.
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This is awesome, you are making people here envious about the classic (and classy) tones you got going there.
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Just out of curiousity, which cab/speaker/mic did you use?
Just that it sounds awfully familiar :wink:
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Just out of curiousity, which cab/speaker/mic did you use?
Just that it sounds awfully familiar :wink:
It's the new reissue of the g12m that celestion provided marshall with for their 1974x combo (handwired reissue of the 18w combo from 1966-1968). I just mic'd the combo with a cheap condenser mic named oktava (forgot what model it is but it's in the 150-200£ price range). It's mic'd close with the -10dB switch activated. It's pretty much a classic sound yes, but that's what I'm going for :oops:
It's pretty easy to get other sounds though, the pickups/guitar/amp are very versatile and with some pedals I can get good high gain sounds too (although , 'course they'll be classic high-gain sounds) :lol:
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Thanks for the info, i have the 1962 model Bluesbreaker, so i guessed right then, allthough yours seems to break up alot easier then mine, i really need to crank it to get this kind of tone. Mine has 2x the 25w greenback which sound louder basically, but i have the older 20w version you have in a 4x12 cab.
Very nice tone, looking forward to hearing more.
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Awesome tone, song and playabillity! Top stuff!
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Smoooooooooth
When it comes to slow'n'dirty, nothing beats classic paf sounds.
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... I'm also thinking about replacing the g12m speaker for the g12h new reissue which I also have. I may do a few soundclips with that as well!
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You do that 8)
I have 20's pre rola(marshall 4x12 cab), 30's from rola(London city 4x12cab) and two modern 25's in my bluesbreaker. The 30's have a more open sound and are definately louder compared to the 20's IMO, so better have those earplugs ready :wink:
My 30's are G12H greenbacks though, but i think they are the same as the heritage reissues.
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the amp in the left channel is the nicest sounding marshall I've ever heard, it's the exact tone I'm after in an amp. Nice tone, very vintage.
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the amp in the left channel is the nicest sounding marshall I've ever heard, it's the exact tone I'm after in an amp. Nice tone, very vintage.
Thanks alot! I really love it.
I have 20's pre rola(marshall 4x12 cab), 30's from rola(London city 4x12cab) and two modern 25's in my bluesbreaker. The 30's have a more open sound and are definately louder compared to the 20's IMO, so better have those earplugs ready Wink
My 30's are G12H greenbacks though, but i think they are the same as the heritage reissues.
OK I switched the speaker from the g12m 20 watt heritage speaker that is stock in ghe 1974x to the g12h 30 watt heritage speaker that sits in the handwired series 4x12's and it didn't work out. It's not a good match, it turned out to get too "sterile" and stiff, especially on the clean sounds. It would probably be great if you have a muddy sounding guitar but I don't (thanks to bareknuckles, heh). So I like the grit of the g12m and it also gets to work harder in the 18watt since it's only 20 watt and that's the main reason I think i prefer the g12m. I know the g12h's sound fantastic in a 4x12 with the 100 watt head though!
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The stiffness you describe is from the speaker not being broken in yet, the cone does not yet give its full range or load. Rather a tedious process and i prefer just to get my speakers from used amps/cabs so i can hear how they sound immediately. The 30's i have do definately sound a bit more sterile or better said less organic then the 20's but not as much as the modern 25's. On the other hand i think all new speakers sound more sterile then the ones i have which have been played for so long, some greenbacks i have are even played for 4 decades!
Also a little tip on the greenbacks, if you see an old grey or TV size green London city cab and its not far away i would definately check it out, often they are dirt cheap and they were build originally in the late 60's untill the early 80's and were loaded with greenbacks . Youll need to make sure the greenbacks were not replaced offcourse......
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The stiffness you describe is from the speaker not being broken in yet, the cone does not yet give its full range or load. Rather a tedious process and i prefer just to get my speakers from used amps/cabs so i can hear how they sound immediately. The 30's i have do definately sound a bit more sterile or better said less organic then the 20's but not as much as the modern 25's. On the other hand i think all new speakers sound more sterile then the ones i have which have been played for so long, some greenbacks i have are even played for 4 decades!
Also a little tip on the greenbacks, if you see an old grey or TV size green London city cab and its not far away i would definately check it out, often they are dirt cheap and they were build originally in the late 60's untill the early 80's and were loaded with greenbacks . Youll need to make sure the greenbacks were not replaced offcourse......
I forgot to mention in this post that I've been using the g12h heritage before so it's definately broken in! I've been playing it for at least a couple of months so I guess it has at least 100 hours playtime. I just think it doesn't match my 18 watt very well, I also don't max my amp but play it on about half volume so it may not get to work enough. The g12m sounds much better in this particular amp, not saying that the g12h is bad - it might even sound better than a g12m in another 18watt.
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Allright, just thought your discription was quite like a new speaker, i must say it doesnt fit the way i would discribe my 30's though they do sound less organic and are considerably louder/more middy IMO.
Anyway, i wouldnt change that amp either if i had such a sound coming out :wink: