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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: jules666 on January 03, 2008, 01:48:39 PM
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Hi first post here so hello to you all!
I need some help choosing a new rig.
Currently I am using a Maverick X1 into
ADA-MP1 - ART Multiverb Alpha in the effects loop
Marshall 8008 Poweramp
Currently just a Marshall 2x12 cab (did have 2 of them but one died)
I have had this set up now for around 13 years, I play METAL only thru it and gotta say the sound has always been great. But the rig is on its way out, ADA keeps cutting out and the ART unit has a display that does not stop flashing.
I thought about getting another ADA and effects unit, though I mainly use just the effects units EQ/Low pass filter/reverb only but figured it was time for a new setup.
The ADA without the ART doesn't sound at all METAL, so after browsing round the net and not seeing many replacement ART units like mine, I see there are loads of amps around, so I have no idea what I need.
Music shop in my area doesn't really stock decent amps. So if I can narrow my choice down to a few to look at I can maybe travel somewhere to try one.
My requirements are :
Cost - well would like a Head & Cab (4x12) for no more than £1200
Would consider rack gear though instead of a head.
(that's pretty much my budget as I want to get a new guitar as well soon)
Don't need really any of them 3/4 channel amps as I only use distortion, clean channel would be nice though but its sound is not as important.
Effects loop would be handy as well.
Was hoping for around 100w at least on output.
Sounds I am interested range from late 90's thrash/death to modern swedish death metal.
Anyone suggest a few set ups?..if a shop selling a particular model does interest free credit could possibly stretch a little further ;)
:twisted:
Cheers :)
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Modern Swedish Death Metal pretty much spells In Flames to me, Bjorn uses JCM900s and both him and Jesper use 5150s last time I checked.
A 5150 (6505 as they're known now) will give you the balls to the wall distortion, but the cleans cr@p. You should still have enough in your budget for a 4x12 with some ease.
Other things to look at - Framus Cobra/Dragon (Killswitch Engage) Engl Powerballs (pure awesome), perhaps a Mesa Single Rec (Not as good as the other amps named). Possibly something from VHT if you can stretch to it...
On the talk of rack amps - Look no further than ENGL, they make some of the best preamps and poweramps you can get tbh.
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I second the 5150 (now the 6505) or 5150-II (now the 6505+) motion.
I have a 5150-II (now the 6505+) and it is simply brilliant :)
I especially recommend it with a 4 x 12 loaded with 2 x G12K-100 and 2 x EVM12-L black label speakers. All told that might come to a touch more than 1200 new, but you should be able to find something second hand like I did which will come to about 1200 all told.
Good luck in your search!
Roo
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cant go wrong with the peavey 5150 or now as its called the 6505
if you really fell like pushing the budget (alot :P ) The Bognor Ubershall is the way forward for all metal heads.
Rob
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I'd say look into ENGL stuff. Specificly the Savage, Fireball or may be the Screamer.
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ENGL Fireball and cab. . . has to be with the ENGL cab though!
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ENGL Fireball and cab. . . has to be with the ENGL cab though!
Thats a 60w isn't?...don't think that would be loud enough to get over my drummer. :)
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ENGL Fireball and cab. . . has to be with the ENGL cab though!
Thats a 60w isn't?...don't think that would be loud enough to get over my drummer. :)
60w of valve is excrutiatingly loud!!
50w and 100w aren't that different volume wise, 100w just has more headroom and they usually have more bass. 50w have less headroom and usually sound squishy (good for leads). But there is only a small difference in volume I believe.
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I have a 5150-II (now the 6505+) and it is simply brilliant :)
Ditto!
Infact, i'm selling it in the next month or so for £600 with a full new set of valves (pre and power amp, and the ones in it don't need replacing yet, only about 4 months use)
Reason for selling, getting an Eganter mod 50
Let me know if you're interested mate, i can give you pics and all
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Your 8008 is solidstate if I remember right... Which means you'll be totally unprepared for how $%&#ing loud valve amps are. Trust me. 60 watts is more than enough.
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ENGL or Laney would be good bets.
Nice guitars them X-1s.
Is it pre-Wilkinson?
I have a one-of-two prototype F/SF model and I don't see any incentive to get anything else (asides a copy by Feline or WezV maybe for downtuning or a seven string version). Got Warpigs in it and it sounds incredible.
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Either a 5150 or an Engl, maybe a Fireball, better a Powerball if you are in a band situation as the FB is quite scooped. Saying that if you pair it with a 4x12 that has Celestion V30's then I wouldn't worry too much. I'd probably run an EQ with the Fireball If I were to play live.
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ENGL or Laney would be good bets.
Nice guitars them X-1s.
Is it pre-Wilkinson?
I have a one-of-two prototype F/SF model and I don't see any incentive to get anything else (asides a copy by Feline or WezV maybe for downtuning or a seven string version). Got Warpigs in it and it sounds incredible.
Its a very early model - number 155 off the production line so assuming pre.
Been a good guitar, some tuning instability when I first got it, but a move to GHS boomers on the string front sorted it out, plus moving from C to D tuning helped loads ;)
My only gripe is it damn heavy! :)
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what's people thoughts on a randall V2 ??
Have a shop 30 minutes away has these so may give one a try., but would always be good to hear peoples thoughts.
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ENGL or Laney would be good bets.
Nice guitars them X-1s.
Is it pre-Wilkinson?
I have a one-of-two prototype F/SF model and I don't see any incentive to get anything else (asides a copy by Feline or WezV maybe for downtuning or a seven string version). Got Warpigs in it and it sounds incredible.
Its a very early model - number 155 off the production line so assuming pre.
Been a good guitar, some tuning instability when I first got it, but a move to GHS boomers on the string front sorted it out, plus moving from C to D tuning helped loads ;)
My only gripe is it damn heavy! :)
Nice one. How've you got it strung at? I use D'Addario .11s in standard.
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ENGL or Laney would be good bets.
Nice guitars them X-1s.
Is it pre-Wilkinson?
I have a one-of-two prototype F/SF model and I don't see any incentive to get anything else (asides a copy by Feline or WezV maybe for downtuning or a seven string version). Got Warpigs in it and it sounds incredible.
Its a very early model - number 155 off the production line so assuming pre.
Been a good guitar, some tuning instability when I first got it, but a move to GHS boomers on the string front sorted it out, plus moving from C to D tuning helped loads ;)
My only gripe is it damn heavy! :)
Nice one. How've you got it strung at? I use D'Addario .11s in standard.
GHS Boomers 11-50's
Tuned down a tone.
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Modern Swedish Death Metal pretty much spells In Flames to me
Ha! They are no longer Death Metal, nor have they been since the early 90's, so what the band members currently use is moot. Unless, of course, they used the exact same equipment then, which is doubtful.
I would second the ENGL rec.
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Modern Swedish Death Metal pretty much spells In Flames to me
Ha! They are no longer Death Metal, nor have they been since the early 90's, so what the band members currently use is moot. Unless, of course, they used the exact same equipment then, which is doubtful.
I would second the ENGL rec.
In Flames is the classic Gothenburg example, 90s trash + swedish death metal = gothenburg. Noodle knows his metal obviously :twisted:
I would second the Peavey option, engl or laney do not have as agressive heavy mids the peavey does have IMO. A good JCM900 or 800 head would do fine aswell, but will be more towards the trash side IMO.
I played in a gothenburg project years ago, i played a solid state Rath 130 head and made the second guitarist switch from his engl to solid state after a session or two because it was simply impossible to keep up with the huge wall of gore coming from my solid rig. We were trying pretty extreme sounds in the beginning though.
I played trough a multieffect into the Rath, if you keep playing trough the 8008 i would definately get a multieffect with some cab/amp emulation, i didnt need those because the Rath had a build in tube emulation which was perfect. On second though, im unsure about the 8008, could be it also has some sort of tube emulation.
Note though that i DO play tube amps allmost exclusively, but for really insane stuff, i prefer a solid rig.
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Modern Swedish Death Metal pretty much spells In Flames to me
Ha! They are no longer Death Metal, nor have they been since the early 90's, so what the band members currently use is moot. Unless, of course, they used the exact same equipment then, which is doubtful.
I would second the ENGL rec.
In Flames is the classic Gothenburg example, 90s trash + swedish death metal = gothenburg. Noodle knows his metal obviously :twisted:
Indeed they are.
Oppro - If he asked me Death Metal, I might've suggested another band, however he didn't, he said "modern swedish death metal" - Where the hell else do you look other than Gothenberg? :D
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aye was thinking In flames /Dark Tranquillity / At the gates etc
Also like Children of Bodom sound, and still a sucker for old 80's thrash as well.
Just an amp that can produce a loud wall of distortion but maintaing good definition for riffing as well , I play rhythm guitar as well if that helps influence the choice. Was going around Youtube last night and the Engl fireball clips sounded quite good. Still a little wary about how a 60w amp is going to be loud enough....never had a tube power amp stage only solidstate/valvestate so may need to have a play on one.
The price looks good as well on the Fireball leaves me enough for a cab as well.....lucky I am not in a rush ;)
(Ordered a few more parts from the adadepot so hopefully be able to keep my rack running a little longer till I have made my mind up ;) )
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Just an amp that can produce a loud wall of distortion but maintaing good definition for riffing as well , I play rhythm guitar as well if that helps influence the choice
Check out my sig for the kind of thing I'm getting from my 5150-II. Might not be your cup of tea musically, but the wall-of-noise-with-good-definition thing is what I'm aiming for. Speaking of which, I've now nailed it with a speaker change in my cab, I need to get some more recording done to show of the sound.
Oh and trust me, a 60W fireball is DEFINITELY going to be loud enough, especially if you send it through some very high efficiency speakers (see my speaker change thread - no up-to-date sound files after breaking the speakers in, so you'll just have to take my word for it - those speakers are AWESOME!) (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10363). A 120W Peavey 5150-II is absolutely, without a doubt, categorically loud enough. And we play LOUD. :)
Roo
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Just an amp that can produce a loud wall of distortion but maintaing good definition for riffing as well , I play rhythm guitar as well if that helps influence the choice
Check out my sig for the kind of thing I'm getting from my 5150-II. Might not be your cup of tea musically, but the wall-of-noise-with-good-definition thing is what I'm aiming for. Speaking of which, I've now nailed it with a speaker change in my cab, I need to get some more recording done to show of the sound.
Oh and trust me, a 60W fireball is DEFINITELY going to be loud enough, especially if you send it through some very high efficiency speakers (see my speaker change thread - no up-to-date sound files after breaking the speakers in, so you'll just have to take my word for it - those speakers are AWESOME!) (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10363). A 120W Peavey 5150-II is absolutely, without a doubt, categorically loud enough. And we play LOUD. :)
Roo
currently my band are looking for a new lead guitarist our last one had to leave due to ill health, but he had a Mode Four and that was really loud, my rack had trouble keeping up with it. Hence my worry on the 60w level side.....Sorry if I come across as ignorant on the volume of a tube power amp, as I have always had solid state power amps.
Roo - If i was in your band with a Engl Fireball would i dissapear at normal gig levels or would you have to back off your volume, as your peavey is rated twice as loud?
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An 120watt head isn't that much LOUDER than a 60 watt head, the difference is in the headroom, ie, the clarity at those loud volumes.
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An 120watt head isn't that much LOUDER than a 60 watt head, the difference is in the headroom, ie, the clarity at those loud volumes.
just quite weird toget my head around as I have stereo 80watts a side power amp (solid state) which is pretty much cranked right to the top nearly to get over the drums, and keep up with our old guitarists mode four so 60watts is just hard to believe would cut thru in the overall mix.??? most perplexing ;) :P
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Alot depends on the cab, more speakers = more volume and for practive i have a cab of which the cloth is removed, makes alot of difference. The amp i used is 65w each channel and i used only 1 cab so 1 channel, didnt need to crank it above 2 oclock or thereabout.
The cab is greenback loaded and those can be insanely loud.
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plus don't forget that tube amps are (insert correct and generic number, such as 3 or 4, here) times louder than solid state amps. My 200W Randall RG200G3 (solid state) was loud, but I had to crank it to get anywhere near where my 120W 5150-II is (although to be fair, it did only have 2 speakers rather than the 4 I have now!).
I would guestimate that a 60W Fireball would keep up EASILY in the band mix - especially if you're putting it through a 4 x 12" cab of high efficiency speakers, as I mentioned above: 60W of tube power is a LOT :)
Also don't get misled into thinking that, all other things being equal, 60W is half as loud as 120W. It isn't, and besides, all other things are rarely equal.
My advice is still to go for the 5150-II (6505+), though, but I'm biased because I want to have my amp's children.
Roo
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Modern Swedish Death Metal pretty much spells In Flames to me
Ha! They are no longer Death Metal, nor have they been since the early 90's, so what the band members currently use is moot. Unless, of course, they used the exact same equipment then, which is doubtful.
I would second the ENGL rec.
In Flames is the classic Gothenburg example, 90s trash + swedish death metal = gothenburg. Noodle knows his metal obviously :twisted:
You are quite obviously missing my point. Death Metal In Flames has not been modern since '96, that distinction is now antiquated and the band THEN belonged to a tradition not only seen in Gothenburg Death, but most Swedish Metal, which is the tradition of melody line infusion, or more specifically, RELIANCE. This ranges from the saccharine Gothenburg to the melodically driven Swedish Black/Death such as Dissection and Sacramentum. This was a progression of the trend spawned by NWOBHM and later Heavy and Speed Metal - Key example (and one huge influence on the Gothenburg persuasion in particular) being Iron Maiden among many of their contemporaries.
The structure of much of the Gothenburg style rode on a much more loosely based Death Metal construction and a ball-less adaptation of Thrash - with the exception of early At the Gates and possibly a few others. Today, Sweden continues to spew forth more and more melodically driven METAL bands (but not In Flames - metal being the key word there), Black Metal and Death Metal alike - a great one being the old school revival band Bloodbath (can't go wrong with a bit of Dan Swano). So no, In Flames is not modern Death Metal, and their current output is not even Metal, so as i said before whatever the band currently uses is moot unless it is the exact same equipment that they used to record Lunar Strain and The Jester Race (though the latter is wandering outside of the Death Metal arena already).
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Just an amp that can produce a loud wall of distortion but maintaing good definition for riffing as well , I play rhythm guitar as well if that helps influence the choice
Check out my sig for the kind of thing I'm getting from my 5150-II. Might not be your cup of tea musically, but the wall-of-noise-with-good-definition thing is what I'm aiming for. Speaking of which, I've now nailed it with a speaker change in my cab, I need to get some more recording done to show of the sound.
Oh and trust me, a 60W fireball is DEFINITELY going to be loud enough, especially if you send it through some very high efficiency speakers (see my speaker change thread - no up-to-date sound files after breaking the speakers in, so you'll just have to take my word for it - those speakers are AWESOME!) (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10363). A 120W Peavey 5150-II is absolutely, without a doubt, categorically loud enough. And we play LOUD. :)
Roo
currently my band are looking for a new lead guitarist our last one had to leave due to ill health, but he had a Mode Four and that was really loud, my rack had trouble keeping up with it. Hence my worry on the 60w level side.....Sorry if I come across as ignorant on the volume of a tube power amp, as I have always had solid state power amps.
Roo - If i was in your band with a Engl Fireball would i dissapear at normal gig levels or would you have to back off your volume, as your peavey is rated twice as loud?
Were are you? Seeing as you are on a music site you may as well have a shout out.
That and I need to get into a band situation...
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Modern Swedish Death Metal pretty much spells In Flames to me
Ha! They are no longer Death Metal, nor have they been since the early 90's, so what the band members currently use is moot. Unless, of course, they used the exact same equipment then, which is doubtful.
I would second the ENGL rec.
In Flames is the classic Gothenburg example, 90s trash + swedish death metal = gothenburg. Noodle knows his metal obviously :twisted:
You are quite obviously missing my point. Death Metal In Flames has not been modern since '96, that distinction is now antiquated and the band THEN belonged to a tradition not only seen in Gothenburg Death, but most Swedish Metal, which is the tradition of melody line infusion, or more specifically, RELIANCE. This ranges from the saccharine Gothenburg to the melodically driven Swedish Black/Death such as Dissection and Sacramentum. This was a progression of the trend spawned by NWOBHM and later Heavy and Speed Metal - Key example (and one huge influence on the Gothenburg persuasion in particular) being Iron Maiden among many of their contemporaries.
The structure of much of the Gothenburg style rode on a much more loosely based Death Metal construction and a ball-less adaptation of Thrash - with the exception of early At the Gates and possibly a few others. Today, Sweden continues to spew forth more and more melodically driven METAL bands (but not In Flames - metal being the key word there), Black Metal and Death Metal alike - a great one being the old school revival band Bloodbath (can't go wrong with a bit of Dan Swano). So no, In Flames is not modern Death Metal, and their current output is not even Metal, so as i said before whatever the band currently uses is moot unless it is the exact same equipment that they used to record Lunar Strain and The Jester Race (though the latter is wandering outside of the Death Metal arena already).
What the hell are you on about?
The guy even said himself he's asking for In Flames, and Dark Tranquility tones.
Don't give some load of bullshitee about genres, who is to say your definition is right, and mine wrong?
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Were are you? Seeing as you are on a music site you may as well have a shout out.
That and I need to get into a band situation...
In Basingstoke, Hampshire.
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An 120watt head isn't that much LOUDER than a 60 watt head, the difference is in the headroom, ie, the clarity at those loud volumes.
just quite weird toget my head around as I have stereo 80watts a side power amp (solid state) which is pretty much cranked right to the top nearly to get over the drums, and keep up with our old guitarists mode four so 60watts is just hard to believe would cut thru in the overall mix.??? most perplexing ;) :P
Here's some proof for you that tube is louder than solid state. Keep watching for when he gets to the tiny terror(5:20). Then keep in mind it's only 15 watts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-PHqs4zBAc
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jcm900 wont get you into heavy territories without loud volume and a boost, that, and they're fizzy and not very nice sounding unless you mod it to take out the transistors and opamps. However, at ear bleeding loud volumes, they kick ass. Boost optional here--> i'd recommend a RAT or a TS808
Jcm800 can get you into heavy territories but NEEDS a boost. Again RAT or ts808. Rat will get you close to deicide metalzz, ts808 along the lines of Mastodon --> mind you mastodon also has ALOT of poweramp distortion.
5150/6505 is a good choice, but you'll have 600 quid left over. Also, very very sad cleans. I'd take one if i wanted tight, raw, sterile grit, think Immortal, dark tranquillity, inflames... that fizzy grit they have. Get a bias mod done so you can run the tubes at optimal values, stock 5150's typically come with VERY cold powertubes.
fireball is another good choice, but its SUPER sensitive to pickups, so expect drastically different tones between guitars. Mid scoopy ish and has all the basic controls you need.
Powerball is like a fireball on steroids. Brewtalz brewtazls tight grind grind brewtalz. I think the best example of its tone can be found with Job for a Cowboy (they use powerballs and uberschalls --> the powerball is the more grindy one). Mind you, its hard to mic up because its mids sound scooped, is best matched with an engl cab. Super rediculously tight. Great cleans.
Savage is looser in feel to a powerball, and more versatile. It can do rock, hard rock, metal, and sweet cleans whereas the powerball is just METULLZZ and sweet cleans. Good example of this tone can be found on Dimmu Borgir's Death Cult Armageddon album.
I'd personally avoid randall's and kranks. Randall's have those hybrid poweramps which dont cut as well and dont sound as fat as a full blown tube amp. Kranks are also way overpriced for something only half decent, and you could do MUCH better for the same price.
My vote would be the savage, 6l6 version. I'm sure you can find one used within your budget, and engl users dont abuse their amps so finding a good quality used one shouldnt be hard. :) :)
hope i helped.
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Wow,you can really find everything around here....Jules666,if you are looking for another ART Multiverb 2,i got one in perfect condition but i will check the exact model's name first,because i don't remember any "Alpha" in it. EDIT:it's a ART Multiverb.
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I know.
Even though I've only owned a 30w carlsboro combo, I feel like I know so much about tones just by reading up on these here forums. :D
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Cheers for all the input guys....thinking about the following now based on suggestions here
Engl Fireball
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Peavey 6505
Would prefer the Engl Powerball I think but based on the price and needing a Cab as well it might be a little out of my budget unless I can find a place that does interest free credit for 10 month :) Have to think about the budget as I would like to pick up a new guitar this year as well.
Wow,you can really find everything around here....Jules666,if you are looking for another ART Multiverb 2,i got one in perfect condition but i will check the exact model's name first,because i don't remember any "Alpha" in it. EDIT:it's a ART Multiverb.
Thanks for the offer but have to decline, will be getting a new rig (once I make my mind up) in the next couple of months, my current gear should be fine till then. Thanks anyway! :)
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Well, if you fancy a second hand 5150 II (6505+), give us a shout
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Framus Cobra
HALLEJHULAH (spelling?)
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Went with the ENGL Fireball in the end
Very Very happy with it.
Sounds great Live and for recording!
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Was it loud enough for you then? :twisted:
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Dude, I tried out an Engl Thunder 50 at my local through an Engl 4x12. Had the master at 2 and it was pretty loud, pushed it up to 4 and that would easily cause me to damage my hearing, so I think 50w is plenty.
Gonna let you in on a little secret (because I have decided to be sensible and NOT spend all my savings). They have this set-up in my local for £700 all in. That's £400 for the Thunder 50 head and £300 for the cab. By any calculation that is the bargain of the year. It is second hand but in perfect nick. I'm a metal head and the tone and gain was absolutely awesome, you can't go wrong with it to be honest.
It's these guys here: http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/categories/second-hand-electric-amplification/engl/thunder-50-half-stack/
Just buy it. Please. End my suffering by walking past it every day and seeing it there...taunting me... :cry:
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In Flames is not modern Death Metal, and their current output is not even Metal
oh don't be so fucking daft. Of course it, whilst you presumably aren't a fan and neither am I, saying their recent releases aren't metal is elitist, try-hard bullshit.
I read enough of that nonsense on metal forums from all the 14 year olds that just discovered Burzum, don't subject me to it here :roll:
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As you have an ADA MP1- one thing that you might be worth doing is looking at www.adadepot.com
there are several modifications to the ADA MP1 that may be of interest
The mod 3.666 may be a good one or even the 3TM mod
The gain levels are cranked up much higher and on the 3.666 the EQ is all changed and it is a dual rec killer suddenly its a very different beast
Using an EQ in the loop of the MP1 is a very good idea to pul out different frequencies.
Using an FX unit between the MP1 and power amp is not always a good idea as it can suck tone and power. TC Electronics units seem ok though.
I used to run my FX via a line mixer that allowed most of the raw tone of the MP1 to go to the power amp and sent a separate feed to the FX unit which was then blended back in with the MP1 signal and resulted in a much bigger sound.
I only found this out back in 1991 when my Alesis Quadraverb blew up and I pulled it out of my rack and connected my MP1 direct to the power amp - nearly blew my ears out - that is how much the Alesis was sucking the tone and dynamics
It may be worth trying a valve power amp too.
The valvestate is ok but will lack poke compared to a similar powered valve one
Maybe a Boogie 2:50 , 2:90 or 2:100
Or a VHT/Kittyhawk/Marshall 9100 or 9200
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In Flames is not modern Death Metal, and their current output is not even Metal
oh don't be so fucking daft. Of course it, whilst you presumably aren't a fan and neither am I, saying their recent releases aren't metal is elitist, try-hard bullshit.
While I don't appreciate your tone (let's keep things friendly), I also think In Flames can still be categorized as metal, even though their latest offering is really, really weak :)
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I think all this "genre" talk should be saved for the UltimateGuitar forum.
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In Flames is not modern Death Metal, and their current output is not even Metal
oh don't be so fucking daft. Of course it, whilst you presumably aren't a fan and neither am I, saying their recent releases aren't metal is elitist, try-hard bullshit.
While I don't appreciate your tone (let's keep things friendly), I also think In Flames can still be categorized as metal, even though their latest offering is really, really weak :)
Its not in flames, that's for sure, but it succeeds at being ULTRA-accesible modern teen-metal, and for that, the songs aren't that bad to be frank.
Its no clayman, but if you listen to it thinking it's disturbed or something, you might think otherwise about it.
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For metal you should try:
-Diezel Herbert (Hetfield today)
-Mesa Boogie Mark IV (Hetfield yesterday)
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In Flames is not modern Death Metal, and their current output is not even Metal
oh don't be so fucking daft. Of course it, whilst you presumably aren't a fan and neither am I, saying their recent releases aren't metal is elitist, try-hard bullshit.
While I don't appreciate your tone (let's keep things friendly), I also think In Flames can still be categorized as metal, even though their latest offering is really, really weak :)
My appologies, it was intended to be friendly, or at least jovial, I just tend to type exactly how I speak and I swear a lot :lol:
But this forum is usually free from the "I AM TR00 METUHLZ" nonsense, it's a shame someone feels compelled to get their elitist cap on. The genre debate was completely unneeded, everyone knew what was being asked for and was giving advice accordingly, someone piping in with irrelevant over-analysing was just silly.
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For metal you should try:
-Diezel Herbert (Hetfield today)
-Mesa Boogie Mark IV (Hetfield yesterday)
He bought a Fireball. And isn't the Herbert more than £1200? :)
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For metal you should try:
-Diezel Herbert (Hetfield today)
-Mesa Boogie Mark IV (Hetfield yesterday)
He bought a Fireball. And isn't the Herbert more than £1200? :)
And so is the Mark IV :P
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Was it loud enough for you then? :twisted:
Oh aye it is loud enough!
Well chuffed with it.
Just need to get the band to meet more than once a month so I can crank it up more often :)
..have also used it for recording, and it seems to be fine for that as well!
Sold all my old gear on ebay which helped pay off some of the debt on the ENGL, got it on 9 months interest free as well as that helps. New guitar after the summer I think now :)
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Ooo, how did you get it on interest free? Was that something the dealership offered?
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Ooo, how did you get it on interest free? Was that something the dealership offered?
Take it away finance - Arts council loan
9 months interest free (10% deposit)
link below shows stores that participate
http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/takeitaway/stores.html
Could never have really afforded it otherwise.
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Awesome, cheers for the link dude! :D
[Edit] Typical eh? The only participating store that stocks Engl has a dead website, lol.
Nevermind.... :lol:
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For metal you should try:
-Diezel Herbert (Hetfield today)
-Mesa Boogie Mark IV (Hetfield yesterday)
He bought a Fireball. And isn't the Herbert more than £1200? :)
And so is the Mark IV :P
Double Ooops :oops: :oops:
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For metal you should try:
-Diezel Herbert (Hetfield today)
-Mesa Boogie Mark IV (Hetfield yesterday)
He bought a Fireball. And isn't the Herbert more than £1200? :)
And so is the Mark IV :P
Double Ooops :oops: :oops:
And pretty sure Hetfield plays VH4s :P