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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on January 11, 2008, 04:35:00 PM

Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Crazy_Joe on January 11, 2008, 04:35:00 PM
Got a Gibson SG-1 from ebay.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/Sandman666/IMGP0953.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/Sandman666/IMGP0955.jpg)

However, slightly disappointed as it's pretty battered, action is way high and pickup sucks haha, though those last two can be fixed, most of the battered-ness of it can't. The neck has chips all over it and there are chips over the body. But the part i can't stand is these scratches/lines where he has obviously been picking. I'm wondering if there is anyway it can be fixed?
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: indysmith on January 11, 2008, 04:38:26 PM
I'd say try meguiars scratch-x to get rid of that scratching. Supposed to be pretty good at ironing em out.
Give it a bit of a set-up and I bet you'll be a lot happier. As far as being battered is concerned - it's an SG. the battered the better!
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: LazyNinja on January 11, 2008, 04:39:57 PM
Was that how it was described? With scratches and dents etc? If not maybe you should return it for a refund. If you paid by paypal you could make a claim through ebay.

I have a very bad SG gas. Tokai one seems decent...
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Crazy_Joe on January 11, 2008, 04:45:59 PM
I doubt i can get a refund because he didn't say anything about the condition, as Indy said i think i'll be happier when i get the scratches out set it up and put a bkp in it. I just wish he had said it was in players condition or something.
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Crazy_Joe on January 11, 2008, 05:08:01 PM
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/Sandman666/DSC00271.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/Sandman666/DSC00270.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/Sandman666/DSC00267.jpg)

Here's a better pic of the scracthes, it also has some little dents in it too i have no idea how he did that, but can anything be done about those dents or are they un-fixable?
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: shobet on January 11, 2008, 05:35:40 PM
It's got character. ;)
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Twinfan on January 11, 2008, 05:35:59 PM
Scratches can be polished out.  The dents maybe could be filled a bit and buffed up?  Don't know though.

Hope you got it for a good price?
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Crazy_Joe on January 11, 2008, 05:55:45 PM
haha well if i had seen it at this price in a shop i wouldn't have paid that much for it. I got it for £450 including hard case (which is a damn good hardcase haha) but £24 added on for postage.
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: WezV on January 11, 2008, 06:12:14 PM
i would give it a good buff out and not worry too much about the dents.  they could be fixed its all adding to the price
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Scotty477 on January 11, 2008, 06:19:29 PM
If he didn't mention that the condition was pretty poor then he should have.

On ebay it's the sellers responibility to describe any faults/flaws with any item.

Put it this way. How much more is it going to cost you to fix up, not including the pickup - which I would check is actually Gibson?

I would go for a return/refund.
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Crazy_Joe on January 11, 2008, 06:32:16 PM
Hmm i agree he should have said but i'm not sure about returning it, it has the potential to be a good guitar imo, pickup i was planning to change even if it was in good condition because i knew i wouldn't like it. Action is minor problem and the chips are not bothering me really because they would happen eventually anyways.
It's just the scratches and those dents that annoy me because they are really bad and it's a shame considering the finish on the guitar.
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Ted on January 11, 2008, 07:28:12 PM
Err those are not scratches those are clearly part of its MOJO....  

Get it set up, dump in a Warpig and that will be a BEAST.  :lol:
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Scotty477 on January 11, 2008, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: Ted
Err those are not scratches those are clearly part of its MOJO....  

Get it set up, dump in a Warpig and that will be a BEAST.  :lol:


MOJO .. Ah of course. My bad  :D

Nah seriously if you're happy with it then that's great but you are in your 'rights' if you want to go for a return.
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Will on January 11, 2008, 07:42:45 PM
Try and get a partial refund for 'costs of the issues that weren't explained' ?
and use the money for a BKP!
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Henk on January 11, 2008, 07:59:33 PM
The best guitars always look the worst, think about that for a sec....... :band5:
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Jonny on January 11, 2008, 08:06:39 PM
And you didn't buy the £438 Japanese SG because.. ?

I would return. If you bought it and immediately - Good God.

Then obviously you'd just be changing your own opinion to fit the guitar. It should be the guitar that fits your opinion to be honest.
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on January 12, 2008, 12:24:13 AM
It seems very overpriced for what it is! It's within your rights to take it back, as long as you don't leave it too long. Did the seller leave any info on returns?
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on January 12, 2008, 12:43:19 AM
Damn - you should have gone for my black Gothic Warpig SG after all :wink:

Those scratches should be able to buff out - the surface may need to be flattened off first with 600/1200 grit wet and dry and then polished using micromesh abrasives and /or t-cut and Mer (car polish)

Care must be taken not to go too far when flattening though- dont want to rub through!
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Henk on January 12, 2008, 11:09:04 AM
After reading it all(trying to keep phone time wile at work interesting and usually missing half the thread which i shouldnt do......) i would like to add two things about this SG.

They are pretty rare, at least i cant find many, PLUS a good SG is very very rare especially among the low priced issues. Usually good gibsons are picked by good players who also often play it live, so there you go, the big tonemonsters are usually not the lookers.

What wil tell you alot about the quality of your SG is doing a couple of harmonic sweeps high up the neck, a good SG will chime, start to sing(or scream when using overdrive) without much effort, think Iommi here youll know what i mean. If it sound dead as a board its not a good SG IMVHO, if it is your damn lucky. Mahagony, if it is the good kind of tonewood and is made well has a very abundant high pitch harmonic, or sparkle if you want, youll notice it when you try the above(is mahagony exclusive IMO), at least i do. You can also hold the end of a tuning fork against the body(or just tap it) but that will take alot of experience to hear all the nuances i think. Maybe someone experienced in your neighbourhood can help you out if you dont feel convident judging a guitar that is offcourse.

And yes if you look at the price they did cost originally you payed way too much, im actually quite sad about this since i could have told you this before you bought it, then again you probably know that yourself and thats why you are unhappy with the looks of it.

If i were you i would try and get the seller to take it back IF the SG is a dead sounding plank, or put it on the bay again after giving a correct feedback to the seller and take the loss like a man, youll be laughing at this if you knew the losses i had, if put in perspective so......

So thats what i think, being truthfull as hell again and i hope i dont offend too many people around. I always feel i am really blunt about things compared to you nice english people, over here its rather the opposite strangely enough......

Anyway, hope this helps and you wont be offended by my blunt way of putting things.

Best of luck, Henk
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: AdamB on January 12, 2008, 04:07:34 PM
Sorry you're not too pleased with it Joe! They're some pretty nasty dents/scratches

Hope you can sort most of it out and be happy with it :D

SG twins!
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Crazy_Joe on January 13, 2008, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
Damn - you should have gone for my black Gothic Warpig SG after all :wink:

Those scratches should be able to buff out - the surface may need to be flattened off first with 600/1200 grit wet and dry and then polished using micromesh abrasives and /or t-cut and Mer (car polish)

Care must be taken not to go too far when flattening though- dont want to rub through!


I know, i really should have got your SG!

I'm going to set it up today put new strings on etc. Maybe order a BKP and we shall see how it goes!
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: noodleplugerine on January 13, 2008, 12:32:27 PM
Unlucky mate!

Allways uncomfortable about ebay =/
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Crazy_Joe on January 13, 2008, 02:18:05 PM
Action is set, and it plays very nice now much happier with it. All it needs now it a bit of a polish on them scratches and a BKP and it should be ready to go. :D
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Scotty477 on January 13, 2008, 03:06:55 PM
Good to hear  :)

What BKP are you going for?
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: indysmith on January 13, 2008, 03:11:02 PM
hows the acoustic tone?
does it feel nice now that the action's sorted out?
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: AdamB on January 13, 2008, 03:49:45 PM
The acoustic tone of the SG-X is so good!

Super resonant :D
Title: New SG (slightly disappointed)
Post by: Crazy_Joe on January 13, 2008, 04:37:38 PM
To Indy, yes it's dammn nice now, i don't know how people can play with that higher action, i literally can't actually play anything haha.

And as for the BKP i'm not sure but i may be swinging towards the Crawler for this one.