Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: HTH AMPS on January 20, 2008, 08:11:48 PM
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I'm 95% a humbucker guy, so I'll just comment on those. Here's what I'd like to see...
* a hotter PAF pickup, around 9k with that fatter kind of 'hot PAF' tone with more compression (think of Duane Allman). Name suggestion... Hot Lanta
* a Slayer pickup - I don't think there's anything in the range that really nails that tone. needs to have tons of mids, hot as a Warpig (around 22k) and a tight bass, but definately mid-focused. Name Suggestion... Chemical Warfare
Anyone else got ideas?
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* a Slayer pickup - I don't think there's anything in the range that really nails that tone. needs to have tons of mids, hot as a Warpig (around 22k) and a tight bass, but definately mid-focused. Name Suggestion... Chemical Warfare
Surely you'd want Angel of Death...
I think if Tim introduced more pickups it would be even more confusing... :crazy2:
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I'm well happy with the BKP range as it is, but if i could pick something I'd like to see a wider range of humbucker sized P90's, and also maybe bring the mini humbuckers back. :D
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I think the painkiller nails slayer/the slayer vibe (cos I dont think slayer need all that much gain).
Great idea, mind you.
Were it not for the option of a C-Pig I'd like to see a really powerfull (pig power) ceramic pickup. But then with my C-Pig and 23k MM being my favroute pickups, I would!
The function of the ultra-powerfull metal ceramic is there with custom orders, but I would like to see a model for it.
'Chemical warfare' is great.
Also candidates
The Davidian
Batttery
Damage inc.
Angel of Death
Hell Bound
Inhuman (origin track: savage tone; give it a listen!)
Deliverance (Opeth, a5 I think, but is a cool name!)
Seed of Vengence (Nile song, black seeds of vengence)
And what I would love it to be called, but it never could be
$%&#ing hostile
Edit: Not neccesarily a Pig wind, though. But the C-Pig would be the best starting point for the ultra-powerfull ceramic.
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OR!
Black label society track
Superterrorizer
I know tim likes Zakk.......
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OR!
Black label society track
Superterrorizer
I know tim likes Zakk.......
+1
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Mini Humbuckers, definitely!!
Further:
A Single Coil set called "Crazy Diamond"
A Humbucker set called "November Rain"
A Humbuckers set called "Crazy Train"
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OR!
Black label society track
Superterrorizer
I know tim likes Zakk.......
me and mate were rockin that kind of stuff a while back and wanted to call the band Superterrorizer - great name 8)
so the Painkiller totally nails the Slayer thing eh? - hmm, I'm gonna have to scratch THAT itch :lol:
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Fire Garden Suites. Go figure.
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i'm sure many people would like more strat sets.
the 9k PAF idea is quite nice, but doesn't the VH2 sort of offer that already?
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Also, wouldn't "Chemical Warfare" be a Tele set for that East Bay Ray tone?
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I think you are talking about the VHII or Emerald and Warpigs. The rest is the player/amp...
I'd like to see a couple single-coil sized humbuckers... that's the only thing I would like to see added to the lineup.
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a pickup nailing chuck schuldiner's symbolic and sound of perseverance tone called either "Crystal Mountain" or "Spirit Crusher" :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Even if the range doesn't REALLY need it the names for the pickup are well worth the addition :lol:
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Mini Humbuckers, definitely!!
Further:
A Single Coil set called "Crazy Diamond"
A Humbucker set called "November Rain"
A Humbuckers set called "Crazy Train"
I like 'em although a GnR themed set, surely the easiest name has to be Sweet Child?
Crazy Train set would be a good idea.
A Dimarzio Super 2 clone set, as Josh Homme used in the glory days of his Ovation Super GP's, called The Regular John set. 8)
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More models should be added to the BKP90 range.
That would be sweeeet. :D
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Actually, for a hot PAF one could probably just stick an alnico IV or II under a Blackdog or Emerald, at least im thinking about doing something like that. The only real reason why i havent done this allready is that if i order such a pickup it wont be voiced for the AIV, which can be a mayor disappointment.
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I like 'em although a GnR themed set, surely the easiest name has to be Sweet Child?
When I asked Tim about a tone like GnR he said the set to go for was Stormy Monday. So the product is already there...
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I like 'em although a GnR themed set, surely the easiest name has to be Sweet Child?
When I asked Tim about a tone like GnR he said the set to go for was Stormy Monday. So the product is already there...
Thanks for posting that info Ted, I had often wondered ... :D
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Sounds sensible - Slash uses Alnico Pro II SDs so the basic spec is similar......
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Sounds sensible - Slash uses Alnico Pro II SDs so the basic spec is similar......
Yup, that were my first thought when I checked.
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Come to think of it, a Diver/Bomb type bridge pickup that is AIV. Somewhere down the road, I'd want something to pair with an AIV neck pickup without having that huge midhump in the middle position that AV+AIV gives. And I also like my bridge pickup to be fairly high output and relatively warm/bassy, like the Holydiver and Nailbomb. For the name I suggest Elegant Gypsies 8)
Oh, and as previously discussed, we need something named after Maiden. Just for the name's sake.
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"Echoes" single coil set?? anyone??
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"Rising Force" SingleCoil set?
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C'mon, people, lets not make this a 'Make a BKP named after something from my farourite band' thread!
I think this is really usefull, if theres a role for the pickup. Please post what sort of specs or sound it should have!!
Superterrorizer:
23k Ceramic
Lower resonant peak than a miracle man, but maybe higher than the pig, more mids, pig-ier levels, but a smoother high end than the pig. ULTRA tight bass.
Double screw pole (cos thats how I like all my bridge pickups :lol: : it adds more bass by default, but you can sort of EQ the pickup with the relative height of the coils)
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"Rising Force" SingleCoil set?
And that differs from the Trilogy Suite how? :wink:
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"Rising Force" SingleCoil set?
And that differs from the Trilogy Suite how? :wink:
ermmm,, ehhh, brrr, awww, dunno?
LOL
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the Demonizer:
66.6k, tripple ceramic magnet, only comes in brand new titanium/lead alloy covered options, because it's practically a small nuclear plant.
plug straight into the cab for the most massive of distorted sounds. who needs an amp with that kind of output
stop daydreaming and work with what you've got. 90% of BKPs are so damn versatile, you can use them for any style you want damnit. excluding maybe the ceramic pig, but even that in parallel ... who knows
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stop daydreaming and work with what you've got. 90% of BKPs are so damn versatile, you can use them for any style you want damnit. excluding maybe the ceramic pig, but even that in parallel ... who knows
Agreed. I think everyone should just use Mules or similar and stfu :P
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I like 'em although a GnR themed set, surely the easiest name has to be Sweet Child
Yeah, but tim would be shut down if people came onto the forum saying
"what I really want is a set of sweet children- smooth but nice and hot.
good for gary glitter tones as well"
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texcluding maybe the ceramic pig, but even that in parallel ... who knows
I do
Pretty versatile. Softens the sound and rounds it quite pleasantly. Back off the volume and you have a suprisingly open tone and good clean (especially for ceramic!).
I still want the full realisation of what the C-Pig is in a dedicated pickup, wound to be ceramic and aimed squarely at the most destructive, but extremely clear, of metal.
Its just because there isnt a model for it. You have to specify C-pig, and its popular largely, I believe, because of the boards (its where I found out about it and have recommended it many times!)
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stop daydreaming and work with what you've got. 90% of BKPs are so damn versatile, you can use them for any style you want damnit. excluding maybe the ceramic pig, but even that in parallel ... who knows
And if there wasn't BKP, we'd all turn to DiMarzio, Seymour Duncan, or LindyBartoSuhrGrande or what have ya, but fortunately we can get something better. BKP is all about making those daydreams true and give guitarists the best possible sound.
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Superterrorizer:
23k Ceramic
Lower resonant peak than a miracle man, but maybe higher than the pig, more mids, pig-ier levels, but a smoother high end than the pig. ULTRA tight bass.
Double screw pole (cos thats how I like all my bridge pickups :lol: : it adds more bass by default, but you can sort of EQ the pickup with the relative height of the coils)
I'd be ALL OVER that.
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I'm not familiar with strat tones but Coney Hatch have one of the best strat tones.
How about a "Coney Hatch" single coil? ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRkooi7LyRg
Maybe Tim has covered the sound already as I'm not familiar with the SCs.:P
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Are there any BKP humbuckers that are designed to do Jazz/Fusion type stuff? Like that Shawn Lane or Guthrie Govan sound- smooth, not too high output, warm etc...
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I like 'em although a GnR themed set, surely the easiest name has to be Sweet Child
Yeah, but tim would be shut down if people came onto the forum saying
"what I really want is a set of sweet children- smooth but nice and hot.
good for gary glitter tones as well"
Pahahahaha. :D
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I like 'em although a GnR themed set, surely the easiest name has to be Sweet Child
Yeah, but tim would be shut down if people came onto the forum saying
"what I really want is a set of sweet children- smooth but nice and hot.
good for gary glitter tones as well"
:o
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Are there any BKP humbuckers that are designed to do Jazz/Fusion type stuff? Like that Shawn Lane or Guthrie Govan sound- smooth, not too high output, warm etc...
I was wondering this too. My best bet would be Mules. If you're into a tad more distortion (Guthrie), then Abraxas. I think Stormies would be closest to Shawn's tone, but you'd have to pick as hard as he does.
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I still say BKP should do a Filtertron line.
A classic version a la Brian Setzer,
A more midrangy version a la Malcolm Young,
And something that sounds halfway PAF a la Billy Gibbons
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I still say BKP should do a Filtertron line.
It's so specialised though, I don't think there'd be sufficient demand to justify all the tooling costs.
And TV Jones has that area so well covered, with loads of different models (plus lots of options like HB-sized, P-90-sized and scratchplate-mounted 'Trons). Is there any point trying to compete?
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I still say BKP should do a Filtertron line.
It's so specialised though, I don't think there'd be sufficient demand to justify all the tooling costs.
And TV Jones has that area so well covered, with loads of different models (plus lots of options like HB-sized, P-90-sized and scratchplate-mounted 'Trons). Is there any point trying to compete?
They're great pickups but they're not hand wound. I agree the tooling costs would be high. The market, though small, exists out of tone junkies. And wouldn't you say that SD has the after market pickup area well covered as well? Yet there's plenty of competition. All makes sound slightly different even though some pickups are very similar.
Personally and realisticly, I don't think BKP will ever do a Filtertron but I can always wish.
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Personally and realisticly, I don't think BKP will ever do a Filtertron but I can always wish.
'Tis true. :)
I came very close to getting a TVJ for my Tele recently, but in the end I decided it might be just too twangy for me and went for a Jason Lollar mini-humbucker. So I guess I'll vote for mini-humbuckers, as I probably would've got a BK one if they made them.
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So I guess I'll vote for mini-humbuckers, as I probably would've got a BK one if they made them.
i'd get a set too probably, maybe they could be done on a pre-order basis
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I thought you could get mini-mules?
Like, p-90 sized.
I *dont think* Tim likes SC sized hums, if thats what you mean. Cos I *think* he says that they're halfway houses without the benefits of either (loss of SC tone by being humbuckers and loss of much HB tone by picking up from a smaller area of the string).
Could be wrong though.
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I thought you could get mini-mules?
Like, p-90 sized.
I *dont think* Tim likes SC sized hums, if thats what you mean.
I think you're right about SC sized HBs, but I meant the Firebird style minibuckers. I believe Tim has made mini-Mules in the past, but I'm sure I've read that they're not available any more.
I've got a Gibson mini I could've had rewound, but I wanted the Firebird type without polepieces. I'm sure the Lollar is going to sound great anyway (no offence to BK! :wink: ).
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Mini HB's - I have a Firebird copy (Lawsuit era Ibanez) with no hardware on it. I need some mini HB's to fit.
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Mini HB's - I have a Firebird copy (Lawsuit era Ibanez) with no hardware on it. I need some mini HB's to fit.
if you look on ebay, there are usually a couple of different makes of remarkably cheap mini-humbuckers. they may be complete rubbish made from bits of old pedal bins, but if they're reasonable you could get Tim to re-wind them. since they only cost about a tenner usually, plus what Tim charges for a re-wind, it would probably end up cheaper than the mini-mules he used to do!
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stop daydreaming and work with what you've got. 90% of BKPs are so damn versatile, you can use them for any style you want damnit. excluding maybe the ceramic pig, but even that in parallel ... who knows
And if there wasn't BKP, we'd all turn to DiMarzio, Seymour Duncan, or LindyBartoSuhrGrande or what have ya, but fortunately we can get something better. BKP is all about making those daydreams true and give guitarists the best possible sound.
you lose @ getting the point.
i still want the demonizer though
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Are there any BKP humbuckers that are designed to do Jazz/Fusion type stuff? Like that Shawn Lane or Guthrie Govan sound- smooth, not too high output, warm etc...
Jazz/Fusion pickups are mostly just PAF's, Tim can even fit it with an Alnico III pickup to make it sound even more Jazzy.
The Mules are perfect for Jazz/Blues/Fusion ala Robben Ford and that general style.
If you want more vintage kind of Jazz sound, talk to Tim about your needs, probably Stormy Mondays with an Alnico III magnet will be spot on.
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Mini HB's - I have a Firebird copy (Lawsuit era Ibanez) with no hardware on it. I need some mini HB's to fit.
if you look on ebay, there are usually a couple of different makes of remarkably cheap mini-humbuckers. they may be complete rubbish made from bits of old pedal bins, but if they're reasonable you could get Tim to re-wind them. since they only cost about a tenner usually, plus what Tim charges for a re-wind, it would probably end up cheaper than the mini-mules he used to do!
Yeah, I've found a couple. Infact "blue" just sent me a link to some which seem really good (and chaep) which is always a plus. My main problem with this axe is trying to find a set of banjo tuners for it. The pups are secondary to finding these, so if anyone stumbles across some, please give me a shout. Cheers.
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My main problem with this axe is trying to find a set of banjo tuners for it. The pups are secondary to finding these, so if anyone stumbles across some, please give me a shout. Cheers.
I really like these Steinberger tuners that I found on the Stewmac website
I have a set that I'm waiting to use on a project
(http://www.stewmac.com/catalog/images_1lg/5460_1lg.jpg)
Steinberger Gearless Tuners
Steinberger's unique "straight-through" tuner has no gears, and an astounding 40:1 tuning ratio for unparalleled accuracy. Straight string pull eliminates winding. The locking knob on top secures the string to prevent slippage. String installation is fast and easy, and the tuning action is impressively smooth.
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I like 'em although a GnR themed set, surely the easiest name has to be Sweet Child
Yeah, but tim would be shut down if people came onto the forum saying
"what I really want is a set of sweet children- smooth but nice and hot.
good for gary glitter tones as well"
Bahahahahahh!!!!
Funniest thing I've heard all week!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Being a bit of a div, I didn't even think of those :oops:
They're a lot cheapr than I thought too. It'll have to wait for a bit though as my bro has just decided to get married in Gozo in July and only told me yesterday (typically the day after I booked a holiday and paid the deposit). So money is tighter than a ducks butt at the minute.
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If anything, I think that the custom options in wind, magnet and what have you need to be more explicitly stated. Tims service is really flexible. You can get pretty much anything you want. Want an AIII crawler wound to 9k instead of 15? I have no doubt that he would do it (he may advise that its a bad idea or point you toward a better option, but it could be done!)
For example, my bridge BKPs are a warpig, C-Pig, double hex blot painkiller, a 23k double screw pole miracle man and an uber-sinner with zinc/steel base plate.
Only one of those pickups is actually a stock, as-advertised Bare Knuckle.
My pickups pan out like that because I talk the pickup out with Tim, ask questions, get answers and settle on a design.
Most people just order an as-advertised pickup off the site or buy them from a dealer.
I think the customisations need to be more heavily emphasised. Cos you can get any sound you want out of BKP. You just have to ask :P
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I like 'em although a GnR themed set, surely the easiest name has to be Sweet Child
Yeah, but tim would be shut down if people came onto the forum saying
"what I really want is a set of sweet children- smooth but nice and hot.
good for gary glitter tones as well"
Bahahahahahh!!!!
Funniest thing I've heard all week!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
+! :lol: :lol: