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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Mr Ed on January 24, 2008, 08:43:55 AM

Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Mr Ed on January 24, 2008, 08:43:55 AM
Herman Li's E-Gen18. (http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page2008.php?area_id=3&data_id=1216&color=CL01&year=2008&cat_id=1&series_id=83)

(http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eg2008/EGEN1_TVF_00_01.gif)

OH GOD, IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL!! I don't *quite* see the point in the grip, it's way more customised than I thought it would be - custom-designed pickups, deeper horn for access, newly designed bridge... but fuuuuuck, fitness deserving of such a player.

AND

Sam Totman's STM1. (http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page2008.php?area_id=3&data_id=1217&color=CL01&year=2008&cat_id=1&series_id=84)

(http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eg2008/STM1_WH_1P_01.gif)

I'm a sucker for Iceman-shapes and this is a fitting modernisation to a classic shape, I like how they've used the "proper" Ibanez headstock instead of the old one though but I'm kinda amazed it's using the Edge III bridge instead of the new one designed for Herman (way more stable, apparently) or the original Edge like on the Vai/Satch sig models.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: LazyNinja on January 24, 2008, 10:42:42 AM
Niiice I'd love an S in the future. The gold hardware looks a little tacky though, cosmo black would have been better imo. Notice the 24frets too there's a few 24 fret S series guitars out this year.

I'm rather excited to see that they are reissueing (properly) the AR300 too! :o I wonder how much that'll cost.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: sambo on January 24, 2008, 10:53:58 AM
Are those top few frets scalloped on the S?
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Ted on January 24, 2008, 10:59:29 AM
I always liked the iceman, but i'm not keen on that model.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Mr Ed on January 24, 2008, 11:00:07 AM
Quote from: sambo
Are those top few frets scalloped on the S?


Yup, "lightly" scalloped from frets 21-24.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Ratrod on January 24, 2008, 11:13:13 AM
The first one doesn't do anything for me but at least it doesn't have a Heineken case handle in the body.

The Iceman looks pretyy cool.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Mr Ed on January 24, 2008, 11:21:05 AM
Apparently, the grip on the upper horn is "Herman's essential feature for his performance on stage" but I can't for the life of me imagine how you'd use that... anyone?!  :?
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on January 24, 2008, 01:55:35 PM
Quote from: Mr Ed
Apparently, the grip on the upper horn is "Herman's essential feature for his performance on stage" but I can't for the life of me imagine how you'd use that... anyone?!  :?


I'd guess it's to grab the guitar by the horn and hold it up to do some segato playing - not unlike Vi and his monkey grip
or to lift up the guitar when he has got his hair caught in the strings
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: FernandoDuarte on January 24, 2008, 02:03:50 PM
WTF is that handle in the upper horn???  :shock:
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: ilÿti on January 24, 2008, 02:35:13 PM
I don't know who would buy these. Dragonforce is passé, and even if they are good guitars, no one would admit to play a Herman Li signature.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Nolly on January 24, 2008, 02:57:12 PM
To be fair to Herman, he hasn't put his name ANYWHERE on the guitar. I really dislike Dragonforce's music, but looking at it objectively, the E-Gen is a damn nice guitar.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Mr Ed on January 24, 2008, 03:31:11 PM
Herman's a guitar purist too so you can bet your back teeth it's a nice feel and plays really well.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Philly Q on January 24, 2008, 03:56:50 PM
Quote from: LazyNinja
I'm rather excited to see that they are reissueing (properly) the AR300 too! :o I wonder how much that'll cost.

You mean the one you can get now for about £380, or are they re-issuing it with '80s specs like the two mini-switches and proper chunky hardware?

I'm not really an Ibanez fan, but I'd be interested in an '80s-style AR300.  Or even better, Rocket Roll.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Mr Ed on January 24, 2008, 04:19:55 PM
The current AR300 is just boring, the original was way better with the 15-odd possible pickup combinations.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: LazyNinja on January 24, 2008, 04:23:30 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: LazyNinja
I'm rather excited to see that they are reissueing (properly) the AR300 too! :o I wonder how much that'll cost.

You mean the one you can get now for about £380, or are they re-issuing it with '80s specs like the two mini-switches and proper chunky hardware?

I'm not really an Ibanez fan, but I'd be interested in an '80s-style AR300.  Or even better, Rocket Roll.


Yup! Made in Japan Prestige. :wink:

http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_series.php?series_id=63&area_id=3&year=2008&cat_id=1
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: opprobrium_9 on January 24, 2008, 05:29:05 PM
OMGZ I HATEZ DRAGONFORZE!!!1!!!111!!!1!eleven

On a more serious note, i think it can safely be said that Dragonforce has always been the mallcore of Power Metal.  And as has been said before, there would be few musicians that would admit to playing that signature, regardless of whether his Sig is there or not (though i do commend him on not putting it there, however, that retarded grip thing is signature enough).
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Kilby on January 25, 2008, 12:40:44 AM
I like the Herman Li model but I wouldn't buy one becasue of the associations.

Same as so many people don't buy Jems becasue of the Vai association, and the fact that they can't / don't play like him.

I however would buy this one http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page2008.php?area_id=3&data_id=1201&color=CL01&year=2008&cat_id=1&series_id=76 or the Artist reissue mentioned earlier.

However I would prefer last yars Giger S Series, Hmmmm it was so nice (and expensive)
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Jonny on January 25, 2008, 07:47:06 AM
I think one signature is enough for me, so not gonna think about getting those. However I do love the new S series - S5470! MUST BUY!

And will probbaly build a custom Iceman, cause I dig the shape. :P
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: ilÿti on January 25, 2008, 03:07:52 PM
I'm a big H.R. Giger fan, so no matter how much I hate the RG and S series, I can't help but drool over the Giger print versions. Best looking Ibanadders ever.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: ToneMonkey on January 25, 2008, 04:49:43 PM
I was expecting ugly, but they're sweat.  I like them both......alot.  I'm sure there's space in my house for an iceman
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: opprobrium_9 on January 26, 2008, 12:25:51 AM
Quote from: ilyti
I'm a big H.R. Giger fan, so no matter how much I hate the RG and S series, I can't help but drool over the Giger print versions. Best looking Ibanadders ever.


I have noticed in your posts that you hate quite a number of guitars, shapes and models alike... which ones are you specifically enamored towards?
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: ilÿti on January 26, 2008, 02:42:56 PM
When I say "hate" it doesn't mean I want them wiped off the face of the earth, it just means a specific guitar/model/shape isn't doing it for me. Anything that works for you is fine by me.
Except Strats, I hate Strats so #¤£@%'ing much  :shock:  :x  :evil:


said tongue-in-cheek of course, don't worry.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: opprobrium_9 on January 26, 2008, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: ilyti
When I say "hate" it doesn't mean I want them wiped off the face of the earth, it just means a specific guitar/model/shape isn't doing it for me. Anything that works for you is fine by me.
Except Strats, I hate Strats so #¤£@%'ing much  :shock:  :x  :evil:


said tongue-in-cheek of course, don't worry.


HA! Don't worry, i am not offended, i was just curious, because there always seems to be such a negative response on your end to a whole boatload of guitar models.  Just curiosity, that's all.  I could care less if you hated my favorite guitar (which happens, currently, to be the one i made) or any other guitar for that matter, it just seems that there must be something you love because you are on this silly forum  :P

In any case, i must say strats and teles generally look like shitee to me (cept Dakine's tele which is m3ga Br00talz).  I do like the look of some superstrats though.  However, this Herman Li monstrosity is something of, well, a monstrosity  :twisted:
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: ilÿti on January 26, 2008, 09:30:36 PM
Oh there's a bunch of guitars I love, and that I have expressed my fondness of on this forum. You just have to look harder  :wink:
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: CJ on January 27, 2008, 03:29:55 AM
they don't really look like anything special to me. Li's guitar looks nice, the handle ruins it. How are both of dragonforce's guitarists getting sig guitars though after only coming out with one song so far?
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Lazy_McDoesnothing on January 27, 2008, 04:11:32 AM
Quote from: callme.nasty
they don't really look like anything special to me. Li's guitar looks nice, the handle ruins it. How are both of dragonforce's guitarists getting sig guitars though after only coming out with one song so far?


I can't tell if you're serious or not(songs sound the same etc.), but they have 3 albums out.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: CJ on January 27, 2008, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: Lazy_McDoesnothing


I can't tell if you're serious or not(songs sound the same etc.), but they have 3 albums out.


ha, yeah it was a joke. they would probably be the greatest band ever if they knew how to write songs that didn't all sound exactly the same. even all of their lyrics are very similar.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Lazy_McDoesnothing on January 27, 2008, 09:03:53 PM
Quote from: callme.nasty
Quote from: Lazy_McDoesnothing


I can't tell if you're serious or not(songs sound the same etc.), but they have 3 albums out.


ha, yeah it was a joke. they would probably be the greatest band ever if they knew how to write songs that didn't all sound exactly the same. even all of their lyrics are very similar.


Haha thought so.  Even though sarcasm doesn't read very well, I figured you knew better :lol:   I agree w/everything being very similar and I kinda like DF.  Not that I could sit down and listen to them for hours but it's nice to get a bit of "cheese" in every once in a while.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Jonny on January 27, 2008, 10:23:11 PM
Songs that aren't on TV or spammed everywhere (i.e. Guitar Hero III) are good like Revolution Deathsquad, plus it's such a good song - no one has tabbed it. :(
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Ian Price on January 28, 2008, 12:24:21 PM
I do really like the Ibanez models but must admit that Dragonforce leave me cold. Sure, they are very gifted guitarists but their music doesn't move me*




*this may be out of jealosuy as I can't, and never will, play anywhere near as fast or accuare as them! :?
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: Ian Price on January 28, 2008, 12:25:28 PM
Actually, I am not sure if I even want to be able to play that fast :roll:
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: ilÿti on January 28, 2008, 12:38:13 PM
Quote from: Ian Price
I do really like the Ibanez models but must admit that Dragonforce leave me cold. Sure, they are very gifted guitarists but their music doesn't move me*




*this may be out of jealosuy as I can't, and never will, play anywhere near as fast or accuare as them! :?

Don't worry.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y1uT8MUr7_4
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: noodleplugerine on January 28, 2008, 04:18:59 PM
Quote from: ilyti
Quote from: Ian Price
I do really like the Ibanez models but must admit that Dragonforce leave me cold. Sure, they are very gifted guitarists but their music doesn't move me*




*this may be out of jealosuy as I can't, and never will, play anywhere near as fast or accuare as them! :?

Don't worry.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y1uT8MUr7_4


Idd.

They are in no way gifted guitarists - They are just guitarists that try to play faster than they can.
Title: Mmmmmm, new Dragonforce signature guitars!
Post by: opprobrium_9 on January 28, 2008, 05:26:55 PM
Quote from: ilyti
Quote from: Ian Price
I do really like the Ibanez models but must admit that Dragonforce leave me cold. Sure, they are very gifted guitarists but their music doesn't move me*




*this may be out of jealosuy as I can't, and never will, play anywhere near as fast or accuare as them! :?

Don't worry.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y1uT8MUr7_4


da lulz

I ate their soul for breakfast, wasn't very big at all, i could hardly see it  :roll: