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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: everton_fc on February 02, 2008, 12:10:49 PM

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: everton_fc on February 02, 2008, 12:10:49 PM

Hi - am not a fan of treble, and was wondering what BKP humbucker has more of a bass/low mid presence and less highs.

Thanks!

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Machek on February 02, 2008, 12:17:31 PM

Depends on how much output you want but i think the bkp line provides fat low-middy humbuckers for every output range.
I'd say Black Dog, Crawlers, maybe AV Warpig?

The important thing is: these Fat, growly bkps will never mush or get muddy and undefined... they'll growl and retain clarity, precision/definition, and that's not that common...

Cheers

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Philly Q on February 02, 2008, 12:22:08 PM

Quote from: Machek

The important thing is: these Fat, growly bkps will never mush or get muddy and undefined... they'll growl and retain clarity, precision/definition, and that's not that common...

Yep, I agree with that.  If you want a really dark pickup - without clarity/definition - I don't think BKP make anything to fit the bill.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Crazy_Joe on February 02, 2008, 01:27:54 PM

Black Dawgss

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Transcend on February 02, 2008, 02:08:32 PM

i find my nailbomb to be quite dark & middy sounding.

hence why i dont like it too much i prefer a brighter sound witha  tad less bass.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Transcend on February 02, 2008, 02:15:49 PM

i find my nailbomb to be quite dark & middy sounding.

hence why i dont like it too much i prefer a brighter sound witha  tad less bass.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: ericsabbath on February 02, 2008, 07:18:25 PM

holy diver + mahogany guitar

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: MDV on February 02, 2008, 07:45:30 PM

I've never heard a truly 'dark' bk. From teh clips I'd say the holy diver is the closet that still has a fair bit of output.

I dont think the crawlers or nailbombs are dark at all. Middy pickups, with the treble rolled off a little perhaps, but not dark.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: HTH AMPS on February 02, 2008, 11:50:31 PM

The Black Dog in my Explorer is quite dark but the treble is still defined.

I'd say the Alnico Warpig had the smoothest treble response of the BKPs I'd tried so far.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: MDV on February 03, 2008, 01:19:13 AM

Yeah, HTH, of what I've used in the bridge
(Warpig, C-WP, Painkiller, miracle man, Uber-miracle man, crawler, Nailbomb)
the pig is the closest to what evertons asking for. Its not very close, though. Its got a lot of bass and low mid, but still lots of clear high end and crunch.

It may be a goot bet, though, since its double allen pole by default, you could set it a little further into the body and raise the neck-facing poles a mil or 2 to make the lows very dominant in the tone.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: ericsabbath on February 03, 2008, 04:09:13 AM

before playing it, i though the alnico warpig was dark, but it's not
the holy diver is a bit darker, especially on downtuning
but it won't make a bright guitar sound dark
the miracle man has a lot of treble edge, but it sounds very dark on mahogany (dark, not smooth)
i tried it on 2 les pauls

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: indysmith on February 03, 2008, 09:04:22 AM

I've heard loads of people calling the nailbomb dark sounding recently. Has the spec changed? mine is anything but dark. REALLY bright and high-mid focussed.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Transcend on February 03, 2008, 12:22:48 PM

Quote from: indysmith

I've heard loads of people calling the nailbomb dark sounding recently. Has the spec changed? mine is anything but dark. REALLY bright and high-mid focussed.

listen my clip in the players forum

My treble is up full on that with the bass really low.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: MDV on February 03, 2008, 03:31:13 PM

I've had a nailbomb in teh last 6 months and it was anthing but dark.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Catalyst77 on February 03, 2008, 03:35:56 PM

I've just taken out a cold sweat from my esp mirage deluxe and stuck in a nailbomb.  Its a lot brighter.  

I think the nailbomb to me seems quite similar to the rebel yell.  With a little more output.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Catalyst77 on February 03, 2008, 03:36:19 PM

I've just taken out a cold sweat from my esp mirage deluxe and stuck in a nailbomb.  Its a lot brighter.  

I think the nailbomb to me seems quite similar to the rebel yell.  With a little more output.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Philly Q on February 03, 2008, 08:09:07 PM

Wow, now I'm really confused about the Nailbomb.  Glad I'm not considering buying one.  :)

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: noodleplugerine on February 03, 2008, 08:47:22 PM

Quote from: Benmartin1977

I've just taken out a cold sweat from my esp mirage deluxe and stuck in a nailbomb.  Its a lot brighter.  

I think the nailbomb to me seems quite similar to the rebel yell.  With a little more output.

I want that guitar =(

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Catalyst77 on February 03, 2008, 09:26:14 PM

See below! messed this one up and cant seem to erase it!

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Catalyst77 on February 03, 2008, 09:26:50 PM

Quote from: noodleplugerine

Quote from: Benmartin1977

I've just taken out a cold sweat from my esp mirage deluxe and stuck in a nailbomb.  Its a lot brighter.  

I think the nailbomb to me seems quite similar to the rebel yell.  With a little more output.

I want that guitar =(

Here it is on ebay for £230!



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170190286905&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007

Mine cost me £1000 back in 1993!

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: TomW on February 03, 2008, 09:48:35 PM

Quote from: Philly Q

Wow, now I'm really confused about the Nailbomb.  Glad I'm not considering buying one.  :)

I think its just down to the guitar that its in, I swapped the nailbomb from my sg into my strat last week because I was finding it quite dark sounding and bassy and it sounded far brighter and nicer in the strat, probably because of all the mahogany in the sg. Thats probably why Tim recommends using low output pickups in sg's.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: MDV on February 03, 2008, 10:27:41 PM

Quote from: TomW

Quote from: Philly Q

Wow, now I'm really confused about the Nailbomb.  Glad I'm not considering buying one.  :)

I think its just down to the guitar that its in, I swapped the nailbomb from my sg into my strat last week because I was finding it quite dark sounding and bassy and it sounded far brighter and nicer in the strat, probably because of all the mahogany in the sg. Thats probably why Tim recommends using low output pickups in sg's.

Bks are very guitar-sensitive.

On the mahogany: yes. Medium output pickups mud up in them (so gibson uses medium output pikcups WHY?), but very powerfull pickups (in BK terms, MM and up, with the NB on the cusp: works in some bits of mahogany and not in others) can cut through it and are fine.

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Prawnik on February 04, 2008, 08:06:47 AM

How are the Black Dogs for artificial harmonics?

Title: Dark, low - mid type humbucker
Post by: Nolly on February 04, 2008, 11:13:06 AM

Quote from: Benmartin1977

Here it is on ebay for £230!



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170190286905&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007

Mine cost me £1000 back in 1993!

My god I want that sooo badly!