Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Transcend on February 03, 2008, 01:31:27 PM
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/wnamm08/epiphone
theyre finally getting it
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What's the deal with Epiphone LPs? Lots of guys on this forum seem to rate them - I've never played one, are they close to Gibsons? I guess that they're more than just a cheaper clone...
Mark.
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What's the deal with Epiphone LPs? Lots of guys on this forum seem to rate them - I've never played one, are they close to Gibsons? I guess that they're more than just a cheaper clone...
Mark.
From my experience with modern gibbos and epis..
the epis are normally better
and not chambered.
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Better....?
I hope you mean better 'for the price'. :?
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I think Gibson is sitting too proudly on the high chair (you can either think of that as a throne, or a baby's chair), I don't see why they don't make 24 fret ones, etc. but it seems Epiphone are catching on. But Epiphone are part of Gibson.. *shrugs*
I started a Tokai LP, weighed a ton, but it was made in China so it looked like the bottom end of a car after driving through some mud and having birds shite on the rooftop. Oh, and with a parking ticket too.
Bloody awful, in other words. Doesn't make me think any less of Tokai however.
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Those Prophecies look superb.
I love that matte finished quilt tops - Really a nice change to the normal high gloss.
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More GAS :roll:
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/4/5/540845.jpg)
On the subject of Epi LP's being better than Gibson LP's ?.......... Not a chance.
Better price but you get what you pay for and I have a Gibson and an Epi LP.
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More GAS :roll:
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/4/5/540845.jpg)
On the subject of Epi LP's being better than Gibson LP's ?.......... Not a chance.
Better price but you get what you pay for and I have a Gibson and an Epi LP.
every gibbo ive played over the last few years has had really bad fretjobs i cut my finger on one whilst playing it.
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More GAS :roll:
On the subject of Epi LP's being better than Gibson LP's ?.......... Not a chance.
Better price but you get what you pay for and I have a Gibson and an Epi LP.
I think Gibson are getting sloppy, not completely shite. Just sloppy.
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I played 9 new off-the-wall Gibson LP's in January, in my hunt for an amp. Each one was well set up, finished to a high standard and had very nice tone.
I would certainly agree that Gibson have had QC issues but if the latest examples are anything to go by, it would seem Gibson are moving in the right direction.
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Gibson vs. Epiphone is a ridiculous argument. Two completely different price brackets. If you are looking to buy an efficient and dependable vehicle, do you think you'll find yourself wandering around in the Ferrari dealership parking lot? Absolutely not. Epiphone Les Paul's are what they are. You get the beautiful Les Paul frame with some hardware that gives you some room to experiment with and upgrade. If you are going to buy a Gibson Les Paul, than you are in the market to make an investment in a high quality instrument. And those of you who talk about Gibson quality control need to understand that if you are going to spend over 2 grand on a guitar, than you better make sure it is setup and ready to go before you leave the shop. I mean, are you guys really dropping that kind of money on a guitar that you get in the mail?? I have owned several Gibson Les Pauls and have loved every one of them. With that said, whatever I found wrong with it AT THE SHOP I had fixed. Setup, fret dressing, whatever. This has always been offered to me at no extra cost. I mean, you are dropping quite a bit of cash on a guitar. Would you buy a brand new car that doesn't run properly?
With that said, I love my Epiphone Les Paul. Granted it has been wholly upgraded and is not the same guitar I bought. They are absolutely playable out of the box and a tremendous value for the price. I personally love what Epiphone is doing with their new line of amps and guitars.
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From my experience with modern gibbos and epis..
the epis are normally better
and not chambered.
What's so bad about chambered?
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i'd be all over the dirty fingers models. and 24 frets? thats sweet. I'd rather die than ever play an emg again.
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I like that red prophesy Les Paul.
Oh, and if you want a semi hollow Les Paul, go for the original and get a Gretsch Jet.
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More GAS :roll:
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/4/5/540845.jpg)
On the subject of Epi LP's being better than Gibson LP's ?.......... Not a chance.
Better price but you get what you pay for and I have a Gibson and an Epi LP.
If that's an example of an Epiphone, I want one! It looks amazing!
Didn't mean to invoke a "brand war". My reasoning was that lots of guys on here play Epiphones, and I reckon that you lot know a thing or two about guitars. Just wanted to learn more, that's all.
Mark.
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Not a problem Mr B.
I'm not knocking Epiphone either. I've had several Epi's and they do the job reasonably well (except for a terrible Epi SG ... :shock: ). The one that I have left (Epi LP) is pretty good but doesn't come close to my Gibson LP, in terms of build or tone.
Obviously Gibson own Epiphone, so to be fair the 2 brands aren't in competition with each other. The company (Gibson) is just trying to cover the market sector.
If you want a decent guitar that looks like a Gibson you can pick one up for a reasonable amount. Epiphones are a good prospect in this respect.
If you're wanting a Gibson ... buy a Gibson. Not an Epiphone.
Pretty simple.
That's a generalisation Mr B and not aimed at you or anyone in particular.
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From my experience with modern gibbos and epis..
the epis are normally better
and not chambered.
What's so bad about chambered?
it affects the tone.
SO you dont get the full thick les paul tone that your after if your getting les paul.
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From my experience with modern gibbos and epis..
the epis are normally better
and not chambered.
What's so bad about chambered?
it affects the tone.
SO you dont get the full thick les paul tone that your after if your getting les paul.
I thought the chambers gave more sustain...
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From my experience with modern gibbos and epis..
the epis are normally better
and not chambered.
What's so bad about chambered?
it affects the tone.
SO you dont get the full thick les paul tone that your after if your getting les paul.
I thought the chambers gave more sustain...
I think he means, when you get a Les Paul, you'd think a thick tone. With a chambered, it's just thinner. Which isn't Les Paul style at all.
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Coming back to these new Epis, I think they've messed up on the 24-fret LPs - they've extended the fretboards but haven't redesigned the body at all, so top fret access is even worse than usual.
And the neck pickup's almost down in the middle of the body, instead of nicely surrounded by the upper bout. Looks all wrong.
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I see what you mean Philly, looks like a bridge and a middle humbucker now than a bridge and neck.
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Why have they put the knobs in such strange odd places? why why why!
I really want that black, active SG... but the knob placement is really putting me off it.