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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: ailean on February 08, 2008, 01:39:23 PM

Title: Stormy Mondays - Alnico 2 or 4?
Post by: ailean on February 08, 2008, 01:39:23 PM

I'm seriously considering putting a set of SM's in my Tokai 120 (335).

My immeadiate feeling is to go with the Alnico IV's but I'd like to hear some opinions.

I want a good clean sound but it has to do dirt as well. I have Nailbombs in my LP for heavier stuff, so not too bothered if they don't get REALLY dirty.

Thought's and opinions please (or is that too much to ask on a Friday?)...

Title: Stormy Mondays - Alnico 2 or 4?
Post by: Jonny on February 08, 2008, 01:40:42 PM

Are you not broke?

Title: Stormy Mondays - Alnico 2 or 4?
Post by: ailean on February 08, 2008, 01:42:53 PM

Yeah, but I'm hoping for a bonus :)

Title: Stormy Mondays - Alnico 2 or 4?
Post by: PhilKing on February 09, 2008, 12:58:51 PM

It's not so much a power thing as a tone difference.  The AII is a little more like the older humbucker tone (think early Fleetwood Mac), whereas the AIV is a little more tight and sparkly, almost Fender like in the neck position.  I tend to think of it as more early Free, if you listen to Paul Kossoff he has a very powerful but clean tone on a lot of the early recordings.  I actually don't have a bridge AIV SM, mine is a neck with a Riff Raff bridge (which is a great combination for all sorts of music).  

The PG Blues are based on an AII Stormy Monday, and they are a great set for all early rock and blues tones.  Stormy Mondays will do dirt, but you will need to dig in hard to get the push from them.

Title: Stormy Mondays - Alnico 2 or 4?
Post by: Philly Q on February 09, 2008, 08:16:40 PM

What about an AII neck and AIV bridge?  Would that work?

Title: Stormy Mondays - Alnico 2 or 4?
Post by: HTH AMPS on February 09, 2008, 09:37:43 PM

Quote from: Philly Q

What about an AII neck and AIV bridge?  Would that work?

from my own perspective, I'd get A4 for the neck and A2 for the bridge if I was going for SM's - I think A2 in the neck would be too bassy and the low notes would 'blur'

Title: Stormy Mondays - Alnico 2 or 4?
Post by: PhilKing on February 09, 2008, 10:26:41 PM

I am pretty certain that Tim said AIV and AII don't work together really well.  AV - AIV and AV - AII are the combinations which work best (other than matching the magnets).

Title: Stormy Mondays - Alnico 2 or 4?
Post by: Philly Q on February 09, 2008, 10:37:10 PM

I've got an AII SM neck in my V and I don't find it bassy - but I do know what HTH means about the notes "blurring" (I actually quite like that in a neck pickup).

But I've never tried the SM bridge model, whether AII or AIV.

Title: Stormy Mondays - Alnico 2 or 4?
Post by: ailean on February 09, 2008, 10:39:36 PM

Thanks for the input guys, it's actually taken me back a step, I was pretty settled on SM's but I'm not so sure now, both the PG's and the Riff Raff's sound interesting.

Damnit, I need to win the lottery so I can dedicate my life to trying every pickup in every combination that Tim makes.