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Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Philly Q on February 09, 2008, 09:26:52 PM
You know what it's like.  :oops:  :roll:  

I blame that "GAS Thread" for getting me started.  Now I have to decide what I'm going to sell to pay for this thing...

Excuse terrible photos, I had to use flash.


(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/IMGP1403.jpg)

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/IMGP1400.jpg)
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: sambo on February 09, 2008, 09:34:05 PM
Without meaning to be rude, those are terrible photographs Phil. :lol:

But I'm sure it's beautiful in person. I really love the look of the Mira's, and the slab-with-a-bit-of-carve body really appeals to me.


Lucky so and so- I bet it's fantastic!!! Congrats.
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Ted on February 09, 2008, 09:37:20 PM
Hey Philly - whats it like !!!!

I want one!
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Philly Q on February 09, 2008, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: sambo
Without meaning to be rude, those are terrible photographs Phil. :lol:

No offence taken, Sam.  Unfortunately the flash makes the nice dark rosewood fretboard look much lighter than it really is, and you can't see the lovely abalone moon inlays.  And the black finish casts reflections in such a way that it looks like it's covered in scratches.  C'est la vie...

Quote from: Ted
Hey Philly - whats it like !!!!

It's actually much as you'd expect - a cross between an LP Junior and an SG, leaning more towards the SG thanks to the thin body.  A very, very resonant SG, that is.  PRS must have good stocks of timber, because this rings more than any of my Gibsons except my '65 Melody Maker.

Soundwise, it seems to really excel at clean and dirty sounds, but gets a little mushy with really filthy distortion.  I don't know if PRS have done something clever with the coil-split wiring, because I normally don't like split humbuckers but these sound great.
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: sambo on February 09, 2008, 10:09:35 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: sambo
Without meaning to be rude, those are terrible photographs Phil. :lol:

  And the black finish casts reflections in such a way that it looks like it's covered in scratches.  C'est la vie...





Yeah that often happens with black gloss finishes... ?

Oh well, as I say I bet it's stunning in reality. Did you get it brand new?
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: _tom_ on February 09, 2008, 10:10:32 PM
Looks good Phil :) I think it'd look pretty cool with some nickel covered pickups.
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: FernandoDuarte on February 09, 2008, 10:14:12 PM
Nice guitar!  :D
Title: Re: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Jonny on February 09, 2008, 10:14:18 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
You know what it's like.  :oops:  :roll:  

I blame that "GAS Thread" for getting me started.

It happens to the best of us. That is a b-e-a-u-tiful Mira. Have fun with it Philly.
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Philly Q on February 09, 2008, 10:27:51 PM
Thanks for the comments, guys!  :D

Quote from: sambo
Oh well, as I say I bet it's stunning in reality. Did you get it brand new?

Yep, I took a day trip to Guitar Village in Farnham, they had four Miras in stock.

I really would've loved the Orange finish but didn't like the Wide Thin neck.  I almost went for a Powder Blue/white scratchplate one, but the black one was just as good and black seems more "practical" somehow - it could be Rock, it could be Blues, and it's easy to patch up if you damage the finish!

Quote from: _tom_
Looks good Phil  :)  I think it'd look pretty cool with some nickel covered pickups.

Thanks Tom, and I agree about the nickel covers.  The black pickups look a bit "lost" on the black body, and also the exposed bobbins feel a bit unprotected, I'd prefer covers.

Crazy that I'm already thinking about new pickups for a brand new PRS.
 :lol:  :roll:
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Post by: Twinfan on February 09, 2008, 10:31:31 PM
Nice Phil, very nice  ;)

There's something about the Mira I personally just can't love though.  I think they're too close to an SG for me?  I'd probably really like one if I could get past that though  :)

Edit:  I got past it quite quickly  ;)
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: sambo on February 09, 2008, 10:50:19 PM
Quote from: Philly Q

Yep, I took a day trip to Guitar Village in Farnham, they had four Miras in stock.




Ohh! They have so many stunning PRSs in stock. You did well to come away with just the Mira!  :)

You're right about the black. I can't really explain why, but it's a 'safe' colour to go with... :lol: :oops:

My favourite is the Sea Foam Green though. Will have one of them some day!
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Post by: ailean on February 09, 2008, 10:58:46 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Crazy that I'm already thinking about new pickups for a brand new PRS.
 :lol:  :roll:


You buy a guitar for the wood and the build, then you put BK's in it, that's just the way the world works.
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Post by: Philly Q on February 09, 2008, 11:00:33 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
There's something about the Mira I personally just can't love though. I think they're too close to an SG for me? I'd probably really like one if I could get past that though  :)


For me, it's the fact that it is like an SG - but different enough to be worthwhile.  I like the control arrangement and there's always the option of replacing the 3-way switch with a 5-way.

I always felt like I "should" have one PRS for my collection (well, I did have an EG once but it's long gone).  But beautiful maple tops, bird inlays etc aren't my thing - I like looking at PRSs in shops, but I never saw one I actually felt tempted to buy.  There is the PRS Standard of course, but they're still quite pricey and you don't see many around.  

I wasn't sure about the Mira at first, but every time I've seen one the design has grown on me.  And £1,100 is more than I'd usually spend, but for a PRS it seems a crazy bargain (well almost, in a way...  :roll: ).

Quote from: sambo
Ohh! They have so many stunning PRSs in stock. You did well to come away with just the Mira!  :)  

 :lol:  But that's the thing for me, they're all so stunning I could never pick one out.  The Mira stands out because it's simpler!

Quote from: ailean
You buy a guitar for the wood and the build, then you put BK's in it, that's just the way the world works.

You're right - there's a sort of karmic inevitability about it!  :lol:
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Post by: DeanS on February 09, 2008, 11:23:45 PM
That looks fantastic and welcome to the PRS club!

It does have its problems though.....if you're anything like me you'll get used to the gorgeous neck, perfect intonation, oh and the RESONANCE such that you won't play any of your other squeezes!
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Post by: TwilightOdyssey on February 09, 2008, 11:47:37 PM
The Mira has had fantastic press, and I even like the look. (Even tho it's not a super strat)  Nice score!
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: hunter on February 09, 2008, 11:54:05 PM
Nice, I knew you'd gonna get one after you expressed that GAS some time ago, congrats for a nice acquisition!
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Ian Price on February 10, 2008, 12:11:30 AM
The pics on the guitarvillage website are a little better - I assume this is THE guitar that Phil bought:

http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/product-detail_huge.asp?id=5892&catid=3&quantity=1&manid=83&product=PRS+Mira%2C+Black%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Case

I can feel a bad case of GAS coming on now. Hopefully I can hold it until GV's boss gone mad sale in early April!!
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 12:14:11 AM
Quote from: DeanS
.....if you're anything like me you'll get used to the gorgeous neck, perfect intonation, oh and the RESONANCE such that you won't play any of your other squeezes!

Time will tell!  Although this is a bit of a step up from a lot of my stuff, I've been surprised how well some of my cheapo guitars hold up against it - especially my MIJ LP Jrs.  I love those babies!  It's time to unload some gear now that the PRS is on board, though.

Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
The Mira has had fantastic press, and I even like the look. (Even tho it's not a super strat) Nice score!

Thanks Ben, high praise indeed  :D - and I'd guess you're not a fan of PRS in general?

Quote from: hunter
Nice, I knew you'd gonna get one after you expressed that GAS some time ago, congrats for a nice acquisition!

Ha, next time I express some GAS, just shoot me!  :lol:  But now I really am GAS-free, for a while....

Enough buying, now it really is time to move into the "selling" part of the cycle.  But what am I gonna get rid of?  :?
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 12:15:23 AM
Quote from: Ian Price
The pics on the guitarvillage website are a little better - I assume this is THE guitar that Phil bought:

http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/product-detail_huge.asp?id=5892&catid=3&quantity=1&manid=83&product=PRS+Mira%2C+Black%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Case

I can feel a bad case of GAS coming on now. Hopefully I can hold it until GV's boss gone mad sale in early April!!

That's the very one, Ian.  And what a great website they have, it's updated just about every day.
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Ian Price on February 10, 2008, 12:23:46 AM
I am very, very, very jealous (but happy for you at the same time)
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: opprobrium_9 on February 10, 2008, 12:24:57 AM
i thought you wanted a natural finish one...?  I like the shape a lot but the natural finish appeals to me more, especially with the black scratch plate.  The one thing i hate about almost all PRSs is that $%&#in bridge, it is so ugly, why can't they just use a tune-o-matic with a string through, that would look MILES nicer.  :roll:  :twisted:
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 12:45:28 AM
Yeah, I did want the translucent orange (wasn't keen on the cherry - too Gibson - or brown mahogany - too dull).  But I'm impatient, and it was a case of "a bird in the hand".  Maybe in a year or two if the Mira's successful they'll have some different models and be more widely available, I might get an orange one then...

I'm very fond of wrap-tail bridges personally, I've got 6 or 7 guitars with various types.  I'm equally happy with tune-o-matics, but I do like the simplicity of a one-piece.  The PRS bridge looks a little over-sized to me, but I guess Paul Smith did his usual tinkering to find what he considered exactly right.
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: 38thBeatle on February 10, 2008, 01:02:29 AM
I have just got in a from a gig and seen this thread. Nice one Philly. I was looking at one in a shop last week and I loved the look of it  but Mrs 38th dragged me away. Guitar Village is a good place to spend time-I bought my Jap Strat there on impulse.
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Dakine on February 10, 2008, 02:12:33 AM
PHILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome to the 'light' side ;) (aka enLIGHTened)
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Ted on February 10, 2008, 11:02:49 AM
I want one now.

I'll have to play it first though.

I'd be tempted for a tortoise pickguard for that guitar.

It seems like very versatile instrument, i.e. could be very handy when gigging and a proper musicians guitar rather than a "piece of furniture" guitar. Not that there's anything wrong with those. I have a lot of time for PRS these days.
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 11:58:49 AM
Thanks again chaps!

Quote from: Dakine
PHILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome to the 'light' side ;) (aka enLIGHTened)

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:   HaHa, cheers Nick, but I don't think I'll be totally abandoning the "dark side" anytime soon.  No Artist Packs (whatever they may be), dragon inlays or solid rosewood necks for this ole boy.

I'd have another Mira though!  I seem to be getting into Twinfan's "Noah" mindset.
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Post by: PhilKing on February 10, 2008, 01:28:01 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
I'm very fond of wrap-tail bridges personally, I've got 6 or 7 guitars with various types.  I'm equally happy with tune-o-matics, but I do like the simplicity of a one-piece.  The PRS bridge looks a little over-sized to me, but I guess Paul Smith did his usual tinkering to find what he considered exactly right.


I like the wrap overs too.  It started with an SG junior 30 years ago, and I was sure that the sound had to come from the fact that the strings are so well anchored.  I have 10 or so with wrapovers (and another 2 on the way!).

I like the look of the Mira's too, though black would be too much like my EG!
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Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 02:01:38 PM
Quote from: PhilKing
I have 10 or so with wrapovers (and another 2 on the way!).

I'm always glad you (and Twinfan) are here, Phil, it always makes me feel less guilty about my ludicrous guitar collection!  :lol:

Quote from: PhilKing
I like the look of the Mira's too, though black would be too much like my EG!

Yeah, it is reminiscent of the EG in a way, with the scratchplate.  

I had an all-black EGIII(?) with the Fralin "domino" pickups, that was a nice guitar.  I'm not sure about the neck joint on PRS bolt-ons, though - the body wood is quite thin at that point.  On mine the neck didn't fit very tightly in the pocket and there were cracks in the finish at the neck joint which I suspect may also have been cracks in the wood.
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Post by: PhilKing on February 10, 2008, 02:19:49 PM
My EG is a 4 with the HSS setup, though it now has a Crawler and 2 BKP91's.  The neck on mine is a good fit, but the scratchplate is very brittle (Tim got me a new one made which is much better).  I have been avoiding guitar shopping for a bit because there are 3 things I quite fancy, but I already have 4 guitars coming this year (all custom made which is why I don't have exact dates).  Guitar Center have the Faded 59 Les Paul in Tobacco Sunburst for $1,600, the Mira is around $1,500 here and I really like the Billie Joe Armstrong Les Paul Junior!
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Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: PhilKing
I really like the Billie Joe Armstrong Les Paul Junior!

Sorry to keep dragging this thread out (it's not meant to be an ego trip, honest! :oops: ), but I had a very quick look at one of those yesterday.  

I honestly don't think, apart from probably the electronics, it was any better than my MIJ Epi Juniors.  And they were a third of the price!
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Post by: hunter on February 10, 2008, 02:31:41 PM
Guys, I would really like to see someone calculate the share of this forum of for example the total turnover on guitar related products in the uk.

Might be close to 1% ...

Oh and Phil ... why would you wanna buy a Gibbo Faded if you could have a much better spec and quality instrument from Edwards? Just to feed some even more GAS  :roll:
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Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 02:35:19 PM
Quote from: hunter
Oh and Phil ... why would you wanna buy a Gibbo Faded if you could have a much better spec and quality instrument from Edwards? Just to feed some even more GAS  :roll:

I take it that's for Phil K, not Phil Q?  :wink:
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Post by: PhilKing on February 10, 2008, 02:50:03 PM
I was just saying the guitars I liked the look and price of, I'm sure once I try them I won't like them either, but the BJA case is great!! Usually though I find Epiphones have a narrower nut than Gibson's - certainly all my older ones have had.

As for Edwards, I very rarely see them in the US.  In fact I'm not sure that I have ever seen one over here.  I have some Japanese guitars and know the quality.  

I'm really not in the market for a Les Paul (as one in my guitars being made is a Les Paul custom hybrid) - though if I find a nice LP Deluxe I might change my mind!   I thought that the faded for $1,600 was very cheap though.
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Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: PhilKing
I was just saying the guitars I liked the look and price of, I'm sure once I try them I won't like them either, but the BJA case is great!!

Fair point, and I was forgetting the case is part of the deal!
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Post by: dave_mc on February 10, 2008, 04:48:21 PM
nice!
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Post by: dave_mc on February 10, 2008, 04:49:51 PM
Quote from: hunter
Guys, I would really like to see someone calculate the share of this forum of for example the total turnover on guitar related products in the uk.

Might be close to 1% ...

Oh and Phil ... why would you wanna buy a Gibbo Faded if you could have a much better spec and quality instrument from Edwards? Just to feed some even more GAS  :roll:


haha, twinfan alone is probably close to 1%...  :lol:
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Post by: Twinfan on February 10, 2008, 04:53:21 PM
:oops:
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Post by: opprobrium_9 on February 10, 2008, 06:50:17 PM
Give us a beauty shot of your whole collection surrounding your new hottie! GO ON! DO IT!  :wink:  (No, seriously do it!)
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Will on February 10, 2008, 07:02:33 PM
What exactly does Philly's collection comprise of? You should do a load of threads like Phil King did, as you often say that you have too many of this type, and several of....
The Mira is a bit of a different guitar, every time I look at it, something seems odd
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Ted on February 10, 2008, 07:07:32 PM
Quote from: Will
What exactly does Philly's collection comprise of? You should do a load of threads like Phil King did, as you often say that you have too many of this type, and several of....
The Mira is a bit of a different guitar, every time I look at it, something seems odd


I was like that when I first saw it, but now everytime I look at it something else seems right...

I hope this a hit for PRS.
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Post by: Ian Price on February 10, 2008, 07:16:16 PM
Ted - I wish you hadn't said that. I always thought the Mira was odd looking. In the last few minutes I have started seeing things that aren't so odd.
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Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 07:35:48 PM
Quote from: Will
What exactly does Philly's collection comprise of? You should do a load of threads like Phil King did, as you often say that you have too many of this type, and several of....

Ha, maybe one day!  :D  Phil's collection is much more interesting than mine, because he has lots of vintage stuff... and lots of guitars with BKPs so they're relevant to the forum.  And I don't have any nice furniture to arrange them on.

Basically I have:

3 SGs
4 LP/LP Jr types (but no proper Gibson LP Standards or Customs)
2 V types
3 Teles
2 Strats (both hardtails *)
1 proper PRS and 1 PRS SE
1 vintage guitar - 1965 Melody Maker
1 acoustic
1 bass
4 miscellaneous electrics (Hamer, Edwards, Gordon-Smith, Spirit by Steinberger)
4 home-made Frankenstein guitars (all in bits and never, ever used except for testing pickups)

I think that's it.  :oops:


(* That's for Woogie's benefit!  :wink: )
Title: Oops, I did it again...
Post by: Ian Price on February 10, 2008, 07:37:40 PM
Phil - why do you never use your frankensteins?
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Post by: Twinfan on February 10, 2008, 07:48:00 PM
It's just occured to me where PRS got the idea for the Mira from   :P

Gibson Les Paul Special Doublecut:

(http://www.gibson.com/products/gibson/LesPaul/images/jr_lite-gt.jpg)

Phil's PRS Mira:

(http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/admin/pages/upload/PRS/New/PRS_MiraBlk_m.jpg)
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Post by: Ian Price on February 10, 2008, 07:49:16 PM
Very similar indeed. I wonder if we will be seeing another Gibson/PRS court case. I very much doubt it.
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Post by: sambo on February 10, 2008, 07:51:08 PM
Very similar, but I think the Mira is a perfection of an average Gibson design, personally. (Aesthetically that is- I haven't actually PLAYED either of them. :lol: )

Would take the PRS any day.
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Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 07:54:03 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
It's just occured to me where PRS got the idea for the Mira from   :P

Gibson Les Paul Special Doublecut

Very much so, but of course the first few PRS guitars had that shape anyway, before he came up with the Custom shape.  I guess we can't rule out a court case, but Gibson got their fingers burned last time...  :lol:

The Mira really feels very different due to the contouring and the thinner body.  And the 24 fret neck.
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Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 08:06:18 PM
Quote from: Ian Price
Phil - why do you never use your frankensteins?

Because, basically, they are shitee.
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No, to be fair, they're not bad - I'm proud of the spray-can finishes if nothing else.  They're just not the kind of guitars I like now, they're very 80s!!  :lol:  And none of them are really in working order.

One is a white superstrat with a Kahler, an Explorer headstock  :oops: and a skinny neck with a TO-approved 1-3/4" nut.  Another is a single-pickup Jackson Soloist type with a Floyd and very suspect intonation (nice blue colour though).  The third is a modified Fender Bronco body with a Tele bridge, and the fourth is a butchered and resprayed Squier Strat (that's the pickup-tester).  

The latter two only have one neck between them (the Squier was 24-3/4" scale but I converted it to 25-1/2") so I guess really they should only count as 1.5 guitars....
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Post by: Ian Price on February 10, 2008, 08:21:30 PM
A white superstar with a kahler AND an explorer headstock. Iv'e GOT to see that! Have you got any photos you would be willing to share?
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Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 08:55:45 PM
Quote from: Ian Price
A white superstar with a kahler AND an explorer headstock. Iv'e GOT to see that! Have you got any photos you would be willing to share?

That guitar predates the invention of digital photography, so I had to resort to a dodgy scan.  This was about 1987/88 - the EMGs are long gone.  And note it's a Kahler fulcrum trem, not the cam type:

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/strargggrf.jpg)

Here's the blue one too, while I'm at it.  It has a colour-matched headstock, but you can't tell from the pic:

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/hhhjxgzghk.jpg)
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Post by: hunter on February 10, 2008, 08:58:11 PM
Love that blue Charvel-esque. Nice indeed. Intonation? Well who cares, just play louder to compensate  :twisted:

Hey that Mira, just re-read that review in Guitarist, some georgeous detail shots there in the mag, are those poti knobs actually as nice as on those pictures?
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Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 09:09:25 PM
Quote from: hunter
are those poti knobs actually as nice as on those pictures?

They're like little lampshades.  I guess the faceted sides make them a bit easier to grip, but with non-sweaty fingers they're much like regular knobs!  Neat idea though.
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Post by: dave_mc on February 10, 2008, 10:47:28 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
:oops:


to be fair, a lot of us probably aren't too far behind... (myself included) :lol:
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Post by: noodleplugerine on February 10, 2008, 11:07:51 PM
Those superstrats are gorgeous!

What did you say was wrong with the white one?
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Post by: Philly Q on February 10, 2008, 11:57:10 PM
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Those superstrats are gorgeous!

What did you say was wrong with the white one?

Cheers!  :D

Nothing wrong with it - just that I'm not into superstrats any more, and the wide/skinny neck is almost the opposite of what I like now.  That Kahler trem is a great unit, good sustain and works really well.  

I'd never sell it though.  I'll find some pickups for it at some point, so at least it's in working order.
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Post by: noodleplugerine on February 11, 2008, 12:03:50 AM
Quote from: Philly Q

I'd never sell it though.  I'll find some pickups for it at some point, so at least it's in working order.


Awwww!

You even predicted my next question! :P
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Post by: Philly Q on February 11, 2008, 12:20:35 AM
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Awwww!

You even predicted my next question! :P

 :lol:  :lol:

Well, I'd probably only get £200 or something for it with no "name" on the headstock, but the sentimental value's much more than that.  I'd feel bad about selling it.  

(Which isn't a way of talking the price up, by the way...  :wink: )
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Post by: Henk on February 11, 2008, 10:46:46 AM
Very nice Myra Phil, always GASsed for a PRS but never got around to it.

I think the Mira is more of a late 70's Gibson theme, a DC version of the Marauder and THE Paul. Or at least the body seems similar, offcourse in single cutaway.

PS. Glad to see im not the only one with a horse statue in the window :oops:
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Post by: mikeluke on February 11, 2008, 11:06:33 AM
Lovely guitar! Now I just need to figure out how I can wangle a work trip to the USA, where they are $1500 plus tax.........
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Post by: Philly Q on February 11, 2008, 11:36:41 AM
Quote from: Henk
PS. Glad to see im not the only one with a horse statue in the window :oops:

Haha, that's my parents' house, 20 years ago.  I like the horse though, can't remember if they still have it.
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Post by: Twinfan on February 11, 2008, 11:47:58 AM
Damn you Phil!

Forgive me father, I have GAS-ed:

(http://www.harmony-central.com/articles/reviews/prs_mira/Mira_Main.jpg)

(Mine has a black scratchplate, not tortie, like this one on eBay)

(http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/d1/c8/84fd_1.JPG)

(http://i19.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/d1/c8/8280_1.JPG)

(http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/d1/c8/86ac_1.JPG)

(http://i19.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/d1/c8/857e_1.JPG)
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Post by: Philly Q on February 11, 2008, 11:53:43 AM
^

In my defence, I did try to talk him out of buying it on impulse....

 :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Twinfan on February 11, 2008, 12:00:15 PM
You failed!

Right - MAJOR clearout tonight.  Items WILL be sold.....
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Post by: sgmypod on February 11, 2008, 12:02:34 PM
mmm thats sweet
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Post by: Ted on February 11, 2008, 01:08:06 PM
I still can't decide which finish i like best.
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Post by: Philly Q on February 11, 2008, 01:33:59 PM
Quote from: Ted
I still can't decide which finish i like best.

From seeing them "in the flesh", I have to admit the orange looks best  (:evil: damn you, Dave!  :wink: ).  I may have said this already, but it's not as "orangey" as it looks in pictures, it's more like a faded old Gibson cherry, like my Melody Maker.

But I do love the black, with the contours and slightly spiky PRS headstock it looks really streamlined and ready to rock.  I don't think it would even look out of place in a metal band (in fact it reminds me a bit of the Schecter the stupider-looking one out of Avenged Sevenfold plays.  Unfortunately.).

The vintage cherry and mahogany look a bit too "Gibson", and the lighter colours (powder blue, lilac, mint, sandstorm) look a bit too bright - and make the guitar look bigger.  I'd like to see a seafoam green one, I really can't decide if I like it or not.
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Post by: Jonny on February 11, 2008, 01:36:23 PM
This topic is not contributing well to my Custom 24 Trans Grey GAS. :P

There should be a Mira Club formed here.

And I like Philly's Mira better,  PDT_003
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Post by: sambo on February 11, 2008, 01:38:12 PM
Damn stop with the Mira-love!!! I want a Mint Green or Desert (Sand?) finish one SO much!  :evil:

Oh but congrats Dave. :lol:
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Post by: Crazy_Joe on February 11, 2008, 01:39:03 PM
Haha nice Twinfan, you have to control you're gas though!
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Post by: Twinfan on February 11, 2008, 01:40:59 PM
The thing that pushed me over the edge to buy it was the bird inlays.  I read earlier today that they've been discontinued in their current form to these new outline style ones (which I don't like).  I had to grab the guitar I liked now while I still could.....

(http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL504/702387/18905105/300937055.jpg)
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Post by: sambo on February 11, 2008, 01:42:52 PM
Mmm I see what you mean about that. The outline-birds look a little odd.
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Post by: Jonny on February 11, 2008, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
The thing that pushed me over the edge to buy it was the bird inlays.  I read earlier today that they've been discontinued in their current form to these new outline style ones (which I don't like).  I had to grab the guitar I liked now while I still could.....

So you're saying they only have outlined ones now? PDT_039
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Post by: Twinfan on February 11, 2008, 01:46:03 PM
Yep, as of the very near future all guitars get outlines except for the 513 which has it's own style of birds.

Now you see the reason for the GAS attack???   :roll:
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Post by: sambo on February 11, 2008, 01:48:29 PM
Reason? You mean excuse...

 :lol:  :wink:
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Post by: Twinfan on February 11, 2008, 01:50:07 PM
:lol:
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Post by: Philly Q on February 11, 2008, 01:52:42 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Yep, as of the very near future all guitars get outlines except for the 513 which has it's own style of birds.

That's a strange one - I don't think it'll prove popular, I bet they'll go back to the old style before too long.  Apart from anything else, it must be harder work doing the outlines (I know it's CAD-assisted, but even so).

I hope they're not going to switch to outline-moons as well?
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Post by: sambo on February 11, 2008, 01:58:25 PM
Maybe harder work but maybe marginally cheaper in the long-run? :lol:


Maybe Paul is looking to save a few pennies in mother of pearl. Who knows.


 :roll:
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Post by: Jonny on February 11, 2008, 01:59:45 PM
Outline moons wouldn't be moons then, would they? PDT_035
But back to outline birds - Noooooo!!! MUST BUY CUSTOM 24 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!!!!!!! Need cash, Need cash, Need cash, Need cash..  PDT_032
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Post by: Twinfan on February 11, 2008, 02:01:16 PM
Must be something to do with less wastage?
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Post by: Philly Q on February 11, 2008, 02:09:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny
Outline moons wouldn't be moons then, would they? PDT_035

Indeed not, I was being facetious.  But they could leave out the abalone "shadow" part of the moon and have a series of little crescents.  If would look rubbish though.
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Post by: Jonny on February 11, 2008, 02:10:45 PM
Ibanez are doing something similar with their sharktooth inlays, it's not a full shape, instead it's outlined. A *Wedge* Sharktooth, but they have a *Deluxe* Sharktooth too.
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Post by: Ted on February 11, 2008, 03:05:50 PM
I hate those friggin' birds anyway... PDT_029

Mind you I don't like fancy inlays anyway. Don't get me started on those Vai Jem necks...

I think I like your black axe Philly, but I would get a tortie plate made so it matches your black SG X. That axe looks very cool.
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Post by: Philly Q on February 11, 2008, 03:38:47 PM
Quote from: Ted
I think I like your black axe Philly, but I would get a tortie plate made so it matches your black SG X. That axe looks very cool.

Cheers Ted!  That is a possibility, as is black pearl... but I do like having the matching Mira truss rod cover.

But anyway, everything stays as it is for a good while yet!
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Post by: Jonny on February 11, 2008, 03:54:59 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: Ted
I think I like your black axe Philly, but I would get a tortie plate made so it matches your black SG X. That axe looks very cool.

Cheers Ted!  That is a possibility, as is black pearl... but I do like having the matching Mira truss rod cover.

But anyway, everything stays as it is for a good while yet!

Even pickups? PDT_042
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Post by: Philly Q on February 11, 2008, 04:14:04 PM
Quote from: Jonny
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: Ted
I think I like your black axe Philly, but I would get a tortie plate made so it matches your black SG X. That axe looks very cool.

Cheers Ted!  That is a possibility, as is black pearl... but I do like having the matching Mira truss rod cover.

But anyway, everything stays as it is for a good while yet!

Even pickups? PDT_042

Yep, even pickups  :wink: .  

I will say that if/when I switch to BKPs they'll be some combination of Mules, SMs or Riff Raffs.  With covers.  But we'll see.
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Post by: noodleplugerine on February 11, 2008, 04:37:18 PM
The new birds aren't nearly as good!
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Post by: indysmith on February 11, 2008, 04:50:20 PM
meh, I like them more. Still don't like them though
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Post by: broken cord on February 11, 2008, 08:27:27 PM
I had a custom 24 with Birds, I never took well to it so it's gone.

Philly Q the Mira is very nice, I thought about  getting one of them before I decided on the Blackmachine, but who knows what fleabay special pops up, there may be one in my future yet.

Best of luck with your PRS, Mira.
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Post by: Ted on February 11, 2008, 08:32:42 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Damn you Phil!

Forgive me father, I have GAS-ed:

(http://www.harmony-central.com/articles/reviews/prs_mira/Mira_Main.jpg)


I'm sorry. I cannot believe no one asked the question...

So Dave, when you getting the OTHER one? :lol:
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Post by: Twinfan on February 11, 2008, 08:34:33 PM
Ha ha ha!  Let me check the first one out, then I'll decide on the colour for the second  ;)
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Post by: Ted on February 11, 2008, 09:04:26 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290203248892&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019

someone got a deal!
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Post by: JustBecos on February 11, 2008, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: Ted
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290203248892&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019

someone got a deal!


the same seller has another one 3 days left

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRS-Mira-ORANGE-BIRDS-MINT-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ290204139704QQihZ019QQcategoryZ33045QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


bonusis going to be 2 weeks 2 late  :shock:
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Post by: Philly Q on February 11, 2008, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: Ted
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290203248892&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019

someone got a deal!

Yeah, I was watching that (NOT with a view to buying!  :wink: ).

I was expecting a big rush of bids at the last minute, quite shocked it didn't happen.
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Post by: Twinfan on February 11, 2008, 09:37:51 PM
It's the colour - I don't think it's that popular?
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Post by: Ted on February 11, 2008, 10:15:43 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
It's the colour - I don't think it's that popular?


Yep that must be it.

Now i'd like it if they did one in TV Yellow...  :o  Maybe thats too much.
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Post by: dave_mc on February 11, 2008, 10:18:09 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
You failed!

Right - MAJOR clearout tonight.  Items WILL be sold.....


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

must be pushing 1.3% now, eh, dave?
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Post by: Twinfan on February 11, 2008, 10:21:45 PM
Ha ha - must be!  Quite a few things up for sale now though, certainly for me!  It's not often I sell music gear......
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Post by: dave_mc on February 11, 2008, 11:00:43 PM
yeah, me neither. though i have a few boss pedals i need to get rid of... and that avt.  :lol:
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Post by: Twinfan on February 12, 2008, 01:05:48 PM
Apparantly my Mira is at home!  Roll on 4pm......

Edit:  My wife's just sent me a pic on my mobile - I've got some crazy swirly mahogany figuring going on!  It looks great!  I hope it doesn't affect the tone........
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Post by: Philly Q on February 12, 2008, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
My wife's just sent me a pic on my mobile - I've got some crazy swirly mahogany figuring going on!  It looks great!  I hope it doesn't affect the tone........

Stop that, you know it's going to sound great!
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Post by: Twinfan on February 12, 2008, 05:45:54 PM
Bloody hell these things are resonant!!!!!!!!

I like.............

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Mira.jpg)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Mira2.jpg)
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Post by: Philly Q on February 12, 2008, 05:54:05 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Bloody hell these things are resonant!!!!!!!!

They are, aren't they!  :D  The only guitar I have which beats the Mira in that respect is my Melody Maker, and that's been maturing for 40-odd years!

I see what you mean about the crazy swirly figuring!  I think in some ways mahogany can look much more attractive than flame maple and all those exotic woods.
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Post by: hunter on February 12, 2008, 06:00:13 PM
that wood grain looks like you'd have gently pulled those rings down with your right forearm over like 50 years of playing ... kind of ...

Congrats for your oops

many oopsses these days, are these the xmas holiday bonus effects ?
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Post by: Twinfan on February 12, 2008, 06:00:13 PM
Indeed!  I've not seen a piece of mahogany with curls/swirls before but I really like this one.  It sounds better the more you dig in too?  Not to be treated with kid gloves.  It's a very clear and bright guitar, which I think will work really well through a cranked amp.

I picked up my Epi SG as a comparison and it now sounds all dull and dark.  Arse.  I'm really going to enjoy rehearsing with the Epi tonight aren't I?  Not.....
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Post by: Ted on February 12, 2008, 06:02:03 PM
Sweet. That looks very nice.

This isn't helping my situation.
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Post by: Ted on February 12, 2008, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Indeed!  I've not seen a piece of mahogany with curls/swirls before but I really like this one.  It sounds better the more you dig in too?  Not to be treated with kid gloves.  It's a very clear and bright guitar, which I think will work really well through a cranked amp.

I picked up my Epi SG as a comparison and it now sounds all dull and dark.  Arse.  I'm really going to enjoy rehearsing with the Epi tonight aren't I?  Not.....


Err - rehearse with the Mira!!!
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Post by: WezV on February 12, 2008, 07:02:48 PM
very nice
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Post by: Ian Price on February 12, 2008, 07:37:06 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Bloody hell these things are resonant!!!!!!!!

I like.............

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Mira.jpg)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Mira2.jpg)


I now really badly need one of these. Cheers Twinfan and Phil.
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Post by: noodleplugerine on February 12, 2008, 07:39:14 PM
God - Its pretty.

Didn't like it so much when I first saw it - But that's really nice.
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Post by: Philly Q on February 12, 2008, 07:40:27 PM
Quote from: Ian Price
I now really badly need one of these. Cheers Twinfan and Phil.

Now let's see which of us gets a second one first...  :wink:
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Post by: hunter on February 12, 2008, 07:49:32 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: Ian Price
I now really badly need one of these. Cheers Twinfan and Phil.

Now let's see which of us gets a second one first...  :wink:


That would usually be TFs part wouldn't it ... split personalities always need 2 of each  :P
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Post by: Philly Q on February 12, 2008, 07:52:52 PM
It's true, he is the Noah of Guitars!  :lol:   But I've got two of most things as well, I have to admit.

And I am a Gemini - does that mean I'm supposed to have a split personality???
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Post by: dave_mc on February 12, 2008, 07:59:40 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
I see what you mean about the crazy swirly figuring!  


+1, very nice!
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Post by: hunter on February 12, 2008, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
It's true, he is the Noah of Guitars!  :lol:   But I've got two of most things as well, I have to admit.

And I am a Gemini - does that mean I'm supposed to have a split personality???


Dunno, but at least one of them must be of the smart and nice kind.  8)
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Post by: Philly Q on February 12, 2008, 10:46:08 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Philly Q
It's true, he is the Noah of Guitars!  :lol:   But I've got two of most things as well, I have to admit.

And I am a Gemini - does that mean I'm supposed to have a split personality???


Dunno, but at least one of them must be of the smart and nice kind.  8)

I'll take that as a compliment, but I guess the other one's dumb and nasty!  :wink:
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Post by: PoshCollins on February 12, 2008, 11:03:56 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
It's true, he is the Noah of Guitars!  :lol:   But I've got two of most things as well, I have to admit.

And I am a Gemini - does that mean I'm supposed to have a split personality???


Ha I never thought I would find horoscope stuff on this forum.

It sorta does. You can also think very quickly and have dexterous fingers.
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Post by: 38thBeatle on February 12, 2008, 11:05:18 PM
Blimey, we are venturing into astrological signs.Don't believe all that myself...suspicious lot we Scorpios.
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Post by: PoshCollins on February 12, 2008, 11:13:58 PM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
Blimey, we are venturing into astrological signs.Don't believe all that myself...suspicious lot we Scorpios.


Once you get into it ( not the cr@ppy mystic meg stuff * hisses*) it's a nice eye opener.

It's rather interesting stuff and you can learn stuff about yourself you never knew.

Oh the drama - Leo.
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Post by: Philly Q on February 12, 2008, 11:21:19 PM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
Blimey, we are venturing into astrological signs.Don't believe all that myself...suspicious lot we Scorpios.

 :lol:  :lol:  

Quote from: PoshCollins
Ha I never thought I would find horoscope stuff on this forum.

It sorta does. You can also think very quickly and have dexterous fingers.

Hmm, I guess I can think above first gear.  And I do have pretty dexterous fingers (though you'd never guess it from my guitar playing....)

But don't worry, I don't believe in any of that superstitious mumbo jumbo either.

Touch wood.  :|
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Post by: Twinfan on February 12, 2008, 11:56:46 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
Quote from: Philly Q
I see what you mean about the crazy swirly figuring!  


+1, very nice!


Cheers Dave.  It's really hard to photograph, as is the colour.  It's a bit like amber that gets more orange with more light.

The figuring is superb, really different.  I'm surprised by how bright sounding it is - REALLY resonant wood with massive sustain.

I'm a PRS convert.  It blows socks off what Gibson sell for £1000-ish.
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Post by: Dakine on February 13, 2008, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: Twinfan
Quote from: dave_mc
Quote from: Philly Q
I see what you mean about the crazy swirly figuring!  


+1, very nice!


Cheers Dave.  It's really hard to photograph, as is the colour.  It's a bit like amber that gets more orange with more light.

The figuring is superb, really different.  I'm surprised by how bright sounding it is - REALLY resonant wood with massive sustain.

I'm a PRS convert.  It blows socks off what Gibson sell for £1000-ish.


:)

and they aint easy to take pics of, my red SC is a beeatch to photo
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Post by: Philly Q on February 13, 2008, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: Twinfan
I'm a PRS convert.  It blows socks off what Gibson sell for £1000-ish.

I know just what you mean.  Of course now there's a danger of going PRS CRAZY...

Take a deep breath.  Hold and count to ten.  Think PRS-free thoughts.  Relax.  Repeat for several months...
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Post by: Twinfan on February 13, 2008, 12:19:35 AM
:lol:

I can't afford anything else at the moment.  Certainly until all the gear I've got for sale sells!

I probably need to sell a few more things too....
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Post by: Dakine on February 13, 2008, 01:12:50 AM
two singlecuts in 3 months here.

Don't hold ya breath guys :)
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Post by: Philly Q on February 13, 2008, 01:25:01 AM
I must admit, I'd find it quite hard to resist a McCarty Korina (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prsguitars/2200913586/sizes/l/in/set-72157603733599176/) should one ever cross my path.

Assuming I could lift the damn thing.
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Post by: hunter on February 13, 2008, 04:02:29 AM
Talking about Korina (just to help draw the attention away from PRS and therefore create confusion, probably weakening the GAS by removing focus), what about it: http://www.hamerguitars.com/?fa=artistdetail&id=296
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Post by: Dakine on February 13, 2008, 04:48:27 AM
great sitting but never liked playing em standing myself :( V that is.

Hey Hunter, fallen outta love with ya Shiva btw? All this 'other' amp talk from you and she is likely to blow a tranny or summit in retaliation ;)
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Post by: martinw on February 13, 2008, 08:08:47 AM
Quote from: Twinfan


The figuring is superb, really different.  I'm surprised by how bright sounding it is - REALLY resonant wood with massive sustain.

I'm a PRS convert.  It blows socks off what Gibson sell for £1000-ish.


Wow. There's a statement!
Ok, here's the deal; you know how I feel about BM... I mean PRS's, but when we next meet up, we can do back to back with my B****** equipped SG (and yours?) and if it's that good, I might, just might, consider getting one!  :wink:

Imagine me with a lawyer guitar!
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Post by: Philly Q on February 13, 2008, 08:14:01 AM
Quote from: hunter
Talking about Korina (just to help draw the attention away from PRS and therefore create confusion, probably weakening the GAS by removing focus), what about it: http://www.hamerguitars.com/?fa=artistdetail&id=296

I would love a Korina Vector - I even collect pictures of them!  :oops:  

But the cost is way over £2,000 - and I'm never paying that much for a guitar.

(The removing focus thing does work, by the way, Hunter.  Cheers!  :) )
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Post by: Twinfan on February 13, 2008, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: martinw
Ok, here's the deal; you know how I feel about BM... I mean PRS's, but when we next meet up, we can do back to back with my B****** equipped SG (and yours?) and if it's that good, I might, just might, consider getting one!  :wink:


Deal.  It's worth comparing:

Your 60's Epiphone
Your Gibson SG Standard
My Gibson SG '61 reissue
My Epiphone SG
My PRS Mira

Could be interesting!
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Post by: Philly Q on February 13, 2008, 09:21:32 AM
Quote from: Twinfan
Deal.  It's worth comparing:

Your 60's Epiphone
Your Gibson SG Standard
My Gibson SG '61 reissue
My Epiphone SG
My PRS Mira

Could be interesting!

Can you film this Clash of the Titans and put it on YouTube?  Could be very interesting.
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Post by: Twinfan on February 13, 2008, 09:23:12 AM
Trust me Phil, no-one wants to see me and Martin gurning while we're playing.....
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Post by: DeanS on February 13, 2008, 10:33:08 AM
All you need to know about the Mira :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKhFLHwztVk
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Post by: sambo on February 13, 2008, 11:40:28 AM
Wow that swirling really is cool Dave. Nice one!
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Post by: Ted on February 13, 2008, 11:49:09 AM
i'm not a lawyer...but i'm hitting denmark street this lunchtime in search of a Mira.
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Post by: _tom_ on February 13, 2008, 01:33:52 PM
The thing about PRS - I think they feel and sound great, but the whole "lawyers guitar" really puts me off, I dont think they look amazing. I do like the black Mira though because it reminds me of an LP Jr a bit. I think I'll probably still end up with a PRS at some point.
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Post by: Twinfan on February 13, 2008, 01:38:55 PM
I'm with you Tom, the only think I liked before now was the bird inlays.  As an SG fan, the Mira really appealed to me though.  Less flash, more function.
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Post by: Philly Q on February 13, 2008, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
I'm with you Tom, the only think I liked before now was the bird inlays.  As an SG fan, the Mira really appealed to me though.  Less flash, more function.

+1

But -1 on the birds, I prefer moons for even less flash (birds wouldn't be a deal-breaker though  :wink: )
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Post by: DeanS on February 13, 2008, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: _tom_
The thing about PRS - I think they feel and sound great, but the whole "lawyers guitar" really puts me off, I dont think they look amazing. I do like the black Mira though because it reminds me of an LP Jr a bit. I think I'll probably still end up with a PRS at some point.



Well, I've always liked them and have never been put off them by the 'lawyers guitar' connotations. Think about all the vintage Gibbo 59 LP's and 50's strats that are being bought up by 'businessmen' etc- doesn't stop me wanting either!

Love my CE22 and will get a 24 fretter in a month or so-either a Mira or a CE24.
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Post by: Dakine on February 13, 2008, 03:01:50 PM
I thought of them as 'wall hangers' for years (that is somthing pretty to look at only) but after playing them I UNDERSTAND. Also, my SC245 back to back with a '89 Les Paul is better imo.
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Post by: Dakine on February 13, 2008, 03:35:40 PM
Maybe, if left alone they will breed and produce me a Mira? ;)

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01514.jpg)


(btw, RED has got to be THE most difficult to take pics of  :evil:   )
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Post by: sambo on February 13, 2008, 03:38:36 PM
^Looks amazing anyway! :o
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Post by: _tom_ on February 13, 2008, 03:45:29 PM
Nick, I love the one on the left. If it didnt have the birds it would look perfect to me. The models with the traditional LP style control layout look way better to me than 1 vol 1 tone and the switch in the usual PRS style like the one on the right, probably just because I'm used to the traditional style though and prefer it.
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Post by: Dakine on February 13, 2008, 03:49:49 PM
KNOW what ya mean Tom, thats my #1.
But the red one started it.
It has a natural neck (no lacquer) and is super comfortable. I am NOT a trem guy but like an EBMM etc. it is vintage style and is not a problem. The scale is 25" which is ok, and has a very nice coil tap.
I would think of selling her, but PRS has just discontinued them and I don't dislike her at all :) Just prefer the SC245 which is da dawgs dangly beets!

and they do sound a world apart tonally so give choice.
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Post by: sambo on February 13, 2008, 03:53:18 PM
If you change your mind Nick, sell the red one to ME. And this time I'm serious! It's STUNNING.
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Post by: Dakine on February 13, 2008, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: sambo
If you change your mind Nick, sell the red one to ME. And this time I'm serious! It's STUNNING.


By the time you had saved for it you would have spent said money on several guitars/amps that you saw 'cheap' on ebay and then did'nt gel with making me an old man not fit enough to carry it to the Post Office ;) LOL.

If I do ya got first dibs. Bout 1,100 quid right now ;)
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Post by: sambo on February 13, 2008, 04:00:12 PM
Quote from: Dakine


By the time you had saved for it you would have spent said money on several guitars/amps that you saw 'cheap' on ebay and then did'nt gel with making me an old man not fit enough to carry it to the Post Office ;) LOL.


 :lol: :oops:  Probably true unfortunately.


But I will hold you to the first dibs!!!!
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Post by: dave_mc on February 13, 2008, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: Twinfan

Cheers Dave.  It's really hard to photograph, as is the colour.  It's a bit like amber that gets more orange with more light.

The figuring is superb, really different.  I'm surprised by how bright sounding it is - REALLY resonant wood with massive sustain.

I'm a PRS convert.  It blows socks off what Gibson sell for £1000-ish.


yeah, prs are very nice guitars. not too keen on the prices of the "fancier" ones, though...  :lol:
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Post by: hunter on February 13, 2008, 08:54:44 PM
Quote from: Dakine
Maybe, if left alone they will breed and produce me a Mira? ;)

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01514.jpg)


(btw, RED has got to be THE most difficult to take pics of  :evil:   )


If you would have to chose: trem or non trem?
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Post by: Dakine on February 13, 2008, 09:18:08 PM
NON



 :P
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Post by: hunter on February 13, 2008, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: Dakine
NON



 :P


why? Tone? Looks? ...?
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Post by: Dakine on February 13, 2008, 09:24:25 PM
prefer vibrato, used to layout, TONE of SC245 is aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Now, for feel, lurv the unfinished neck on the trem model (like my Flatheads) but overal NOT a trem lover (partial reason Petrucci up for sale). ONLY reason bought the trem (as would never have looked at it otherwise) is that store let me play it for non-active pups (had one of my Flatheads with me) into amp when was looking in Austin.

It is more modern sounding (25" scale and PRS #6 pups still) and for me the 245 is IT. Although it does add diversity with the coil split. Put it this way, both the SC and Pet have only ever had the trem bar in place once each :)
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Post by: hunter on February 15, 2008, 07:09:46 PM
guitarplayertv.com and check in >Amps > Engl Invader

That's a Mira, right?

He plays pretty awesome, like a bass player slapping, awesomeness pure!
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Post by: Philly Q on February 15, 2008, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: hunter
guitarplayertv.com and check in >Amps > Engl Invader

That's a Mira, right?

I can't play the video on this computer.  Is it a powder blue one?  They had one for review at the same time as the Engl.
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Post by: hunter on February 15, 2008, 07:18:11 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: hunter
guitarplayertv.com and check in >Amps > Engl Invader

That's a Mira, right?

I can't play the video on this computer.  Is it a powder blue one?  They had one for review at the same time as the Engl.


yes, like baby blue metallic - hard to say on a compressed vid
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Post by: Dakine on February 15, 2008, 07:47:48 PM
wild mint  :roll:  (sounds edible ;))

http://www.prsguitars.com/mira/index.html
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Post by: Twinfan on February 15, 2008, 10:01:48 PM
Yep, that's a Mira.  Awesome player!
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Post by: Ian Price on February 20, 2008, 03:13:39 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Yep, that's a Mira.  Awesome player!


I was curious so tried out a Mira in a local guitar shop. I wish I hadn't as it was absolutely superb. It was a deep red colour with a wide thin neck - it felt so much nicer than the sg standard I tried out as well!!

I now definitely need one.
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Post by: Twinfan on February 20, 2008, 03:31:20 PM
Ha ha - they're great aren't they?

They're a cross between an LP Junior (shape) and an SG (body contouring).  My two favourite guitars, so it's no wonder I like it....
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Post by: Twinfan on February 26, 2008, 12:12:51 AM
Been thinking - a Korina Mira with Soapbars would be killer!
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Post by: Philly Q on February 26, 2008, 12:20:24 AM
Quote from: Twinfan
Been thinking - a Korina Mira with Soapbars would be killer!

A big YES to the korina, a big NO to the soapbars!  :wink:

I know this makes no sense - I love a single P-90 on a guitar, but I don't like two of them.  I don't know if it's because they sound too similar to each other, or simply because a single-pickup Junior is just so perfect.  :?   It's taken me no less than four dual P-90 guitars to come to this conclusion.  I'm a slow learner.  :roll:

Ultimately, that's the main reason I'm selling my Pete Townshend SG.
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Post by: Twinfan on February 26, 2008, 08:40:48 AM
Horses for courses Phil - I like a neck P-90.

A korina Mira with 'buckers, 24 frets and birds would be OK with me too  ;)
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Post by: Ted on March 02, 2008, 11:49:03 AM
I was in Birmingham and I popped over to PMT to see if I could try a Mira. Well, I tried both of the necks Wide Thin and the Standard. I'd say the wide thin is more of a D shape and the standard is the very nice C shape I have come to love on my PRS SE soapbar.

Anyhow, the guitar was played through a roland cube so not ideal but it certainly gave me an idea of the playability. It plays like a dream, really easy nice frets and very light guitar. The coil tap is excellent and the single coil sounds are great with the humbucker tones sounding fat and chunky like their supposed to. The pickups were quite hot, but sounded nice clean. The pots however felt a bit cheap, to flimsy for my liking.

The guitar I played was a deep cherry red and the finish was outstanding. However, I was dissapointed with the inlay work and the fretboard looked a bit "dry" and was a little disappointing.

The good thing is I have a Strat for single coil sounds and a LP for humbucker sounds, so I can't see how a Mira could replace these and my GAS has dropped.
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Post by: Philly Q on March 02, 2008, 03:17:38 PM
Quote from: Ted
The good thing is I have a Strat for single coil sounds and a LP for humbucker sounds, so I can't see how a Mira could replace these and my GAS has dropped.

And sometimes it's good to have a bit of GAS squeezed out of you, isn't it!  :)  

Years ago one of the shops on Denmark Street had a beautiful 3-pickup, aged white, gold h/w SG Custom.  I fell in love, and I was thinking how am I going to raise £1,300 to buy this  :? ?  But as soon as I picked it up I knew the neck wasn't for me.  It was quite a relief.
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Post by: Henk on March 02, 2008, 05:34:51 PM
Ive had the worst PRS GAS attack ever seeing this one.....

http://www.thefellowshipofacoustics.com/inventory_content_detail.asp?ID=640

Its just perfect in every way imaginable to me   :aww:

Glad i cant afford it without too much sacrifices.....
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Post by: Simon D on March 02, 2008, 09:34:08 PM
Dammit, I've just read all 11 pages of this thread, and it hasn't done my PRS GAS one single bit of good. Admittedly I'm GASing for something a bit more flashy (Tremonti Sig) but all the PRS quality and tone-related talk is killing me.
Must resist, must resist, must resist........
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Post by: FernandoDuarte on March 03, 2008, 01:26:11 AM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: Twinfan
Been thinking - a Korina Mira with Soapbars would be killer!

A big YES to the korina, a big NO to the soapbars!  :wink:

I know this makes no sense - I love a single P-90 on a guitar, but I don't like two of them.  I don't know if it's because they sound too similar to each other, or simply because a single-pickup Junior is just so perfect.  :?   It's taken me no less than four dual P-90 guitars to come to this conclusion.  I'm a slow learner.  :roll:

Ultimately, that's the main reason I'm selling my Pete Townshend SG.


Well (http://216.211.140.132/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/icon_scratch.gif)
I always tought that you could DON'T play with the 2nd pickup, in this case... So why sell them?
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Post by: Philly Q on March 03, 2008, 07:45:22 AM
Quote from: FernandoEsteves
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: Twinfan
Been thinking - a Korina Mira with Soapbars would be killer!

A big YES to the korina, a big NO to the soapbars!  :wink:

I know this makes no sense - I love a single P-90 on a guitar, but I don't like two of them.  I don't know if it's because they sound too similar to each other, or simply because a single-pickup Junior is just so perfect.  :?   It's taken me no less than four dual P-90 guitars to come to this conclusion.  I'm a slow learner.  :roll:

Ultimately, that's the main reason I'm selling my Pete Townshend SG.


Well (http://216.211.140.132/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/icon_scratch.gif)
I always tought that you could DON'T play with the 2nd pickup, in this case... So why sell them?

It's just a psychological thing - if the second pickup's there I can't resist flicking to it.  But it's always a disappointment.

Hey Fernando, I never said I was sane...  PDT_009
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Post by: FernandoDuarte on March 03, 2008, 12:37:45 PM
Well, this is the only forum that I don't use the nick: NonsenseTele

So, I understand!  :D

Here in Brazil we say: each mad with his 'craze'!
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Post by: Gizmo on March 03, 2008, 01:00:23 PM
talking of single P90 guitars and PRS's I just caught a glimpse of an add in the Guitar mag. a company called Guitar Slinger is moving location and selling off everything.

The add has a new PRS SE ONE for £285!! very tempted.

Also for all those home amp forum questions posted recently they are doing the Line 6 spider valve for £359 and fender superchamp for £169 bargains...again new

Not sure when im going to get time to go and try one... they'll prob sell all the remaining stock before i get a chance! GAS!
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Post by: FernandoDuarte on March 03, 2008, 07:58:29 PM
Hummmm

Have anybody played (or know) The PRS SE One???? Is this good? (it's made in Korea, right?)
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Post by: JustBecos on March 03, 2008, 08:55:02 PM
All the PRS SE's get really good press. I haven't tried the ONE, but I have tried a few of the others and for the price they are great IMO,  especially if you swap out the electrics which is the one bit where you can hear and feel the budget nature of the guitars. Even with out doing that they are damn good for the price.
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Post by: Simon D on March 03, 2008, 09:04:41 PM
^That is all true, but there are a few other things to be aware of. The tuners aren't great, and if you're used to high quality, accurate tuners, they'll drive you insane.
Feel and finish-wise, they are pretty good. The only real issue is the fretwire, which is very soft, meaning it will wear quickly. On mine (an SE Singlecut, which now sports Holy Divers), the fretwork wasn't wonderful either, which meant it needed about £35 worth of fret-levelling.
Very good guitars though, especially for the price some places are letting them go for.
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Post by: FernandoDuarte on March 03, 2008, 09:17:14 PM
Well!
I'll think about... Because the price goes on with a good electronic, locking tuners, new frets... (anybody knows a good place to buy Stainless Steel frets, in 6105/jumbo size??)
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Post by: Philly Q on March 03, 2008, 09:26:38 PM
My biggest gripe about the SE One is the lack of a tone control.  I know it's meant to be a really simple guitar, but even LP Jrs have tone controls.

And +1 on the tuners, they're really not very good.  Which is a false economy, because decent non-locking tuners aren't all that expensive.
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Post by: FernandoDuarte on March 03, 2008, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: Philly Q

And +1 on the tuners, they're really not very good.  Which is a false economy, because decent non-locking tuners aren't all that expensive.


The biggest problem/solution (first for US, second for COMPANIES) is think not about ONE guitar, but in TEN THOUSANDS guitars....

That's why Gibson does the short tenon, instead of the famous '59 long tenon (or bigger) and the SG is not neck-thru-body...
In a big sum, pennys goes big value!