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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gwEm on February 14, 2008, 02:35:31 PM

Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: gwEm on February 14, 2008, 02:35:31 PM
i want another steinberger badly, very close to the point of getting the necessary parts and having a custom one done.

been tracking this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Steinberger-Synapse-SS-2F-Electric-Guitar-Alpine-White_W0QQitemZ180213945875QQihZ008QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

looks ok - think is he has only 2 feedback points and refuses to let me collect in person :/ seems dodgy..

I know i should stay clear... but...

FRUSTRATION!!  :shock:

I want USA style availablity and prices of guitars and parts  :evil:
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: mikeluke on February 14, 2008, 02:47:09 PM
Would a Hohner G3T not do the job? Or is there a lot of difference - might be an ignorant question.
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: gwEm on February 14, 2008, 02:49:37 PM
they're in black ;) and definately not as good quality. the synapse has proper active EMGs and a carbon composite neck, plus the synapse has a fixed bridge, which i like.

i though imagine the hohner would be similar quality to my existing 'spirit by steinberger' which isn't bad at all! i tried a hohner gt3 many years ago, but i had not much idea about guitars then. i remember liking the design.

i'm tempted to risk p1ssing 300 quid up the wall. that makes no sense. i need to stop GAS.
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: Crazy_Joe on February 14, 2008, 02:50:59 PM
Coda have the SS-2F in for £399

http://www.coda-music.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3069&oscsid=65bc1ed64872f117765b6c5748e1bfac

Don't now if that's a good price or not though!
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: mikeluke on February 14, 2008, 02:53:39 PM
That's not fair - you are supposed to be HELPING his GAS, not making it worse!!

:-)
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: gwEm on February 14, 2008, 02:56:30 PM
thanks crazy - i've seen the coda one - its definately a good price. (edit: though it seems to have magically changed from a guitar to a bass over night(!))

but again in black though :/ if it would have been white i would already be bragging about my bargain on here :)

check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDeiyx2mByo
thats quality!
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: Crazy_Joe on February 14, 2008, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: gwEm
thanks crazy - i've seen the coda one - its definately a good price. (edit: though it seems to have magically changed from a guitar to a bass over night(!))

but again in black though :/ if it would have been white i would already be bragging about my bargain on here :)

check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDeiyx2mByo
thats quality!


lol that is pretty damn good.
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: gwEm on February 14, 2008, 03:50:08 PM
i wrote again, begging them to do the deal in person :)
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: gwEm on February 14, 2008, 03:56:30 PM
arse: someone else is bidding...
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: gwEm on February 14, 2008, 04:35:53 PM
someone got a bargain. hope i made the right decision to leave it...
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: Scotty477 on February 14, 2008, 04:43:17 PM
Quote from: gwEm
someone got a bargain. hope i made the right decision to leave it...


You did.

Low number seller ... not allowing pick up ... no hard case ...

It wasn't worth the risk, I would think.
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: opprobrium_9 on February 14, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
Just out of curiosity, what is so great about steinbergers? I mean i know they don't have any conventional tuning pegs, and have tuning attenuators instead.  Many are baritone scale.  But they don't look all that great, more like an ugly club like weapon that barbarians are wont to wield...
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: gwEm on February 14, 2008, 05:30:18 PM
well, i think they look fantastic ;) especially the V shaped model. and they fit in a suitcase. its a great engineering achievement, theres many innovations. for example, use of graphite in guitar construction must have been a very brave move in the 1980s. i'm keen on the tremolos as well - alot easier than a floyd.

my MIK steinberger is probably my most played guitar, it makes my life so much easier - i'd literally be lost without it. i'd like a 'real' one, with some of the more advanced features in white and a fixed bridge. i think it would be a great place to put a set of painkillers too.
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: noodleplugerine on February 14, 2008, 06:01:05 PM
Are the Steinberger Spirits good?

(http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk/images/img_prod/large/large_1.1.1.1.1-140-300.jpg)

Looks gorgeous and is only £250 new - In theory all it needs is new pickups?

EDIT: WAIT WAIT WAIT?! How do you hang them up?! :O

Or would it have to take the place of my Ibanez on the floorstand :P
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: gwEm on February 14, 2008, 06:07:59 PM
yes they are good - made in the korea epiphone factory - but i think the quality is a little bit nicer. the stock EMG Select pickups are *awful* though - the worst pickups I ever used. you might want to change the pots too.

i think the tremolo is actually rather good. you might want to consider getting an adapter to use normal strings, rather than double ball ones. they come up on ebay quite often.

i dont use a stand, but then mine has a strap button on each corner. i guess you'll have to use a floor stand.
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: opprobrium_9 on February 14, 2008, 08:01:18 PM
that Spirit is equally ugly IMO.  I never liked th look of "cut out" sections in what would otherwise be a superstrat.  However, that apple red on that Steinberger is quite nice, much better looking than that ugly white one  :wink:  :roll:

EDIT:

Quote from: gwEm
for example, use of graphite in guitar construction must have been a very brave move in the 1980s.


Considering that the 80's were a mistake in the laws of nature, physics, culture, humanity, and cosmic balance, it can safely be said that any kind of "brave move" that turned out "well" is indicative of a mistake that turned out well.  :roll:  :P
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: Crazy_Joe on February 14, 2008, 09:27:24 PM
What i want to know is how they sound?

Such little wood on them and not only that but the wood that is on them is all maple, must be such a bright tone!
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: FernandoDuarte on February 14, 2008, 09:42:39 PM
It could be the HOLY GRAIL of guitar, that would be so ugly and I would still say: "humpft"...  :D If they decide to do a minimally beautiful guitar, ok then...
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: gwEm on February 14, 2008, 10:30:11 PM
opprobrium:

beauty is in the eye of the beholder after al!


crazy: well, theres a clip of mine in the players forum.

they have a full mid range, balanced treble, and not much in the way of bass. i wouldn't say they were bright - not in an agressive way - but no one could call them dark ;) i like my tone without much bass:

treble is difficult to add...

but bass is difficult to take away.
Title: steinberger frustration
Post by: opprobrium_9 on February 15, 2008, 03:28:43 AM
Quote from: gwEm
opprobrium:

beauty is in the eye of the beholder after al!


 :lol:  I am just giving you a hard time.  Surely you can recognize the joking tone, even in writ  :)   In any case, i did say "IMO" so, yes i recognized the "beauty is in..." statement before you concieved it.  :wink:  If you like teh Steinz more power to you.

As for my remark on the 80's, well, i am pretty steadfast on that one  :wink: