Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: hunter on February 15, 2008, 05:01:42 PM
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Wooohoooo, this is fun! Allrighty, my first impressions: Just used the standard setting, all at noon except Master and Gain 1. Master is at 9 AM and Gain 1 at 2 PM.
The sound without the additional gain boost is much cleaner than I had expected, very open, percussive, nice! Very useable sounds in all pickup and vol/tone configurations. Well, as usual I didn't stay there very long, so kicked in that additional gain stage.
Bang! That thing rips. So much treble, but through my ported 2x12 with a Greenback and a G1265 it is very acceptable on the ear, while it is mega transparent. At the same time punchy and percussive, but not overly bassy or tight, so that it can be played rather fluid despite the gain not being up too much.
Added the Fulltone OCD to boost the amp. WOOOAAAAHHH, now we're talking. This is the most straight ahead I ever owned, but with no effort I have a great 3 channel amp with the most amazing tones from late 60s til late 80s.
I am a very happy man, again!
Well to be fair, obviously I have the NAD High - so maybe let's talk again in 3 weeks :O)
Here is a first vid, this is not very great, but just a first impression. Expect more soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EHHKgnDM1k
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this is the face of a jealous gwEm: :(
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Looks/sounds great!
I heard PG uses these now, that right?
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Looks/sounds great!
I heard PG uses these now, that right?
this is far away from being a refined approach, but yes, sounds great straight away.
PG as well as Slash, Doug Aldrich, ... Hunter ? :O)
According to marshallamps.com that is ...
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I may have missed something..but what is NAD?
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Sounds awesome Hunter!
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Yep, I think he does.
The cleaner tone is nice - very JTM45-ish!
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I may have missed something..but what is NAD?
New
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:O)
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*L* thought it was a special version.....dumb me *L*..out of interest Hunter what amps do you own now?
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Just watched the vid. Sounds great :twisted:
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To best of my knowledge Slash and Aldrich use quite heavily modified Marshalls but not VM.
Glad ya like it Hunter.
I have an issue with it as gave me a splitting headache (could'nt get that 'icepick' soundwave to cease, too trebly and not warm enough) but played someones who had changed the tubes and tranny and was much better to my ears (but then why buy one to instantly mod it when can buy a modded Marshall anyway? takes all sorts).
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To best of my knowledge Slash and Aldrich use quite heavily modified Marshalls but not VM.
Glad ya like it Hunter.
I have an issue with it as gave me a splitting headache (could'nt get that 'icepick' soundwave to cease, too trebly and not warm enough) but played someones who had changed the tubes and tranny and was much better to my ears (but then why buy one to instantly mod it when can buy a modded Marshall anyway? takes all sorts).
They're taking Slash's picture with the amp for ads... whether or not he actually uses one.............
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course they are, great Publicity.
He was using his modded Marshall cpl. months ago when I saw him with VR.
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course they are, great Publicity.
He was using his modded Marshall cpl. months ago when I saw him with VR.
so the Jube's have gone now? - strange after all these years.
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*L* thought it was a special version.....dumb me *L*..out of interest Hunter what amps do you own now?
just 3: Shiva, Budda, 2266
ca c'est tout
oh and epi junior, but don't use it really ...
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course they are, great Publicity.
He was using his modded Marshall cpl. months ago when I saw him with VR.
so the Jube's have gone now? - strange after all these years.
nope still has em no VM though.
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Someone on HC posted this clip of the Vintage Modern, sounds pretty good http://www.greazyspoon.net/clips/VM/Straight_thru_the_heart.mp3
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Someone on HC posted this clip of the Vintage Modern, sounds pretty good http://www.greazyspoon.net/clips/VM/Straight_thru_the_heart.mp3
Cool!
Give me some time and I'll get more into it.
I recommend also to check out the vid on guitaplayertv.com, that's a bit more blues oriented ...
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Sounds good hunter, but then again most amps you play sound good!
What's the general consensus on the reliability of these new Marshalls?
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I was blown away by the VM when I heard Chris George play it at last years music show, it was so sweet.
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Nice clip, Hunter.
I'm very tempted by the VMs, possibly the 2x12 with an extension cab. I have a feeling that with a Blackstar in front of it the potential sounds will be incredible...
Wife! Let me have some money!!!
Mark.
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Nice clip, Hunter.
I'm very tempted by the VMs, possibly the 2x12 with an extension cab. I have a feeling that with a Blackstar in front of it the potential sounds will be incredible...
Wife! Let me have some money!!!
Mark.
Was considering the combo too, but 30 Kg is a bit too heavy for lugging around. The 50W head is comfortable with 18Kg.
Blackstar might be good up front but maybe set with a tad less gain - I find it best with a good basic crunch and then a pedal to just send it over the top.
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Hows it at getting JCM800 gain?
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I find it best with a good basic crunch and then a pedal to just send it over the top
That's what I was thinking.
How do you find the cleans? Do you need to back off the guitar volume to get warmth?
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I find it best with a good basic crunch and then a pedal to just send it over the top
That's what I was thinking.
How do you find the cleans? Do you need to back off the guitar volume to get warmth?
Yes. Still need to test in band, but from playing to backing tracks, I'd say getting a good balance is no effort. I have a real nice clean at about half on the guitar, good hardrock crunch or rock lead at full, and great full on lead tone with the OCD added. Wanna try some other pedals too very soon.
If you're in the UK, given that you can have a regular one new for 530 GBP, this is a no-brainer.
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If you're in the UK, given that you can have a regular one new for 530 GBP, this is a no-brainer.
Interesting. Both myself and Martin from Martamp weren't that impressed with the VM. I've played one and Martin actually owned one for a little while.
It must be horses for courses I guess, and I think you have to appreciate that upper mid/high end sizzle they give? I prefer a bit more depth to my tone so I think that's why it didn't suit me.
Maybe they've changed the design a bit as well, or got better valves now? We both played very early ones and yours is a newer one Hunter? I might have to check one out again to see if I still have the same opinion.....
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If you're in the UK, given that you can have a regular one new for 530 GBP, this is a no-brainer.
Interesting. Both myself and Martin from Martamp weren't that impressed with the VM. I've played one and Martin actually owned one for a little while.
It must be horses for courses I guess, and I think you have to appreciate that upper mid/high end sizzle they give? I prefer a bit more depth to my tone so I think that's why it didn't suit me.
Maybe they've changed the design a bit as well, or got better valves now? We both played very early ones and yours is a newer one Hunter? I might have to check one out again to see if I still have the same opinion.....
First one I played I wasn't impressed either. Might have been an earlier one. But also was the 100W and through V30 cab. I think the VintageModern Plus a V30 cab is too much. So you gotta pair this one with Greenbackish speakers and better try the 50 version, as it's a bit easier to play.
But hey, always a matter of taste anyways ... melikey at the moment, but you know me, I am not the most consistent kinda guy with amplifiers.
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course they are, great Publicity.
He was using his modded Marshall cpl. months ago when I saw him with VR.
so the Jube's have gone now? - strange after all these years.
The silver jubilees are still there but he only uses them for clean sounds now. And he uses VM's and JCM slash's in stereo for his overdriven sound.
There's this cool video on jimdunlop.com where slash's tech talks and shows this guy throw his live rig. Worth checking out.
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Read Feline's post as he is right.
He 'may' use a VM but not that I saw or have heard of ,forget interviews/videos/advertising, that's called 'corporate sponsorship' and if believed (when was still legal) ALL Formula 1 racing drivers smoked cigarettes out the wazoo!
A Slash sig is a modified Jub basically, which is what he got after having to return the rental amps he tried to keep (so as to get close to same tone).
I have said it before and will again. NOTHING is usually as it seem's! When getting paid by a company you have to advertise for ya dinner!
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that link that _tom_ posted sounds LUSH. Bit dark for me; but nevertheless an awesome rock sound
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I tried one of these today - really impressed. I A/B'd it with a dsl50 and of coourse there are similarities in the tone I thought the vintage modern was a good step forward (or should I say backwards) in tone.
Its not an easy amp to dial in but there is a sweet spot and when you hit it - its great. Brilliant cutting treble but meaty at the same time. Very jcm800 with more punch from the mid boost and loads more gain.
I'm getting one - don't know when but I am getting one
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Brilliant cutting treble but meaty at the same time. Very jcm800 with more punch from the mid boost and loads more gain.
I'm getting one - don't know when but I am getting one
Good choice dude!
Yesterday in rehearsal I dialed back treble and dialed in Presence, which gave a "fatter" type trebly sound. Got compliments from my band mates and they just said "the sound was very ROCK" although I had the Master on 2PM!!
The 50W VM is not so loud, but just right :O)
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Oh god of music
Protect me against the GAS that is building up inside me
You allready have my soul
Please leave me my wallet
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Oh god of music
Protect me against the GAS that is building up inside me
You allready have my soul
Please leave me my wallet
... gonna have to go try one... what harm could it do...?
:cry:
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Just checked the Bias on my VM2266, it was a bit low (40 ish) so I adjusted and on that occasion made some pics.
(http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/vmguts/1.jpg)
(http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/vmguts/2.jpg)
(http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/vmguts/3.jpg)
(http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/vmguts/4.jpg)
(http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/vmguts/5.jpg)
(http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/vmguts/guts1.jpg)
(http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/vmguts/guts2.jpg)
(http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/vmguts/guts3.jpg)
(http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/vmguts/guts4.jpg)
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Slash's rig uses both his signature Jubilees and the VM.
Also, I think to recall that the two Jubilees he uses for cleans are modified to have different power amp tubes. In total I think i has 6 amps in his rig - 4 Jubilees and 2 VM.
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If they were producing a 25-watts-or-lower version I'll get one right away :lol:
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So tell us hunter, you increased the bias, isn't that operation supposed to warm up and thicken the sound?
Cause we all found your VM quite trebly -while retaining some fatness of course- did the rebiasing tamed its treble?
Cheers!
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(http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/vmguts/3.jpg)
OMG - I never thought of using the amp head casing in this way when setting bias - brilliant :oops:
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So tell us hunter, you increased the bias, isn't that operation supposed to warm up and thicken the sound?
Cause we all found your VM quite trebly -while retaining some fatness of course- did the rebiasing tamed its treble?
Cheers!
Nope. Turning back presence and treble made it less trebly :O)
Yeah the VM is a bright amp, which is what I love about it. It really cuts through and gives that typical Marshall thing. Can be quite ugly on its own but is awesome in a band context.
I did dial it back a bit now though. So from "all settings noon" I am now more on Bass noon, Mid 2 o'clock, treble 11 o'clock, Presence between 9 and 10 AM.
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OMG - I never thought of using the amp head casing in this way when setting bias - brilliant :oops:
Haha, yeah born out of pure need, as the KT66s with the bias rite adapters are too long. Otherwise I'd have the amp rest on its transformers.
I just thought that must be the way people do it :roll: