Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Adam.M on February 19, 2008, 02:55:24 PM
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I've been converted to the SG side, they're so much damned fun and easy to play and sound just right... to me at least!
Never got on 100% with LP's or Strats, the only guitar i really liked quite a lot playing wise was an ESP Viper, which is very SG like and had the fun vibe but being agathis... the tone wasnt all there.
So i went to sound control today to look at amps, ended up trying a Gibson SG Standard in ebony, then in cherry and somehow the cherry one sounded much better... translucent finish letting the guitar sing more? don't know! don't care... want one... sending the girlfriend insane with GAS attack. :D
To think i hated SG's because of a bad experience with two SG Specials in a studio... !
Anyway, who the hell uses SG's? i know 'DC, Tony Immoi, the zappa's... but i can't think of anyone else... ! helllp!
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Andrew Stockdale(?) from Wolfmother (70s Standard with Bigsby)
The dude from Fall Out Boy (Various Specials/Standards)
Joe Perry (Custom Shop brown SG Special reissue)
The rhythm guitarist from The Feeling (Custom Shop white SG Special reissue)
Paul McCartney's guitarists (Custom Shop Heritage series SG Standards)
You (Customised '61 reissue in blue)
Me (Stock '61 reissue with vibrola in Cherry, upgraded Epi '65 reissue)
;)
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Derek Trucks
Elliot Easton
Carlos Santana (late 60s/early 70s)
Pete Townshend (ditto)
John Cipollina
Duane Allman
Tim Sult
Atomik Tommy McClendon
Bruce Franklin
Ian MacKaye
Frank Hannon
Frank Marino
Kelly Jones
Allan Holdsworth (long, long ago)
Ollie Halsall
Mick Box (I'm stuck in the 70s now...)
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Lots of the stoner bands use SG's as Iommi Worship... :lol:
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Hendrix had one for sure, Clapton's famous for his SG, I think you'll find every famous guitarist has a couple.
But yeah - I recommend the Viper massively, its far far more playable than an SG in my opinion.
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Off the top of my head...
Angus Young
Billy Corgan
Kim Thayil (it's a Guild but it still counts I reckon, heh)
Eric Clapton (I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned before!)
Dave Grohl
Chris Shiflett
George Harrison
Alex Lifeson
Anyone who uses an EDS1275, like Page and Slash, it technically is an SG. ;)
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Doh! How could I forget Hendrix and Clapton! :o
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glenn tipton, and the guy jack black plays in 'the school of rock'
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glenn tipton, and the guy jack black plays in 'the school of rock'
Tipton \m/
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Can't belive it took 4 posts until Angus Young was mentionec :lol:
Adrian Smith from Maiden also uses a 61 reissue :)
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Can't believe noone has mentioned Jimmy Page's SG double neck!!
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glenn tipton, and the guy jack black plays in 'the school of rock'
Tipton \m/
Robbie Krieger - surely he should have been mentioned before!
James Hetfield - ditto!
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Jeff Beck
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f395/sundaramusic/Jeff%20Beck/JBeckBW0135224.jpg)
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james hetfield has used one on the recording of certain tracks of load and live a few times and has a gibson custom sg & gibson custom les paul coming up as his new sigs upon album release,
Marty friedman has been known to use them a few times as well
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Great picture of Jeff Beck! :D
Mick Taylor
Paul Samson (RIP)
Gary Rossington
But we're starting to name everyone who's ever used an SG, as opposed to people who regularly use them. There are surprisingly few people who use an SG as their "main" guitar.
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Frank Marino
Allan Holdsworth (long, long ago)
Ollie Halsall
Damn you beat me to those three
Todd Rundgren (who owned Claptions psycheldelic SG)
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I hate to be a killjoy but this might help a wee bit.
http://everythingsg.com/celebrities.htm
I like this pic .. very 70's indeed
(http://everythingsg.com/celebs/iommi7.jpg)
Surely not ...... :o
(http://everythingsg.com/celebs/elvis.jpg)
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I hate to be a killjoy but this might help a wee bit.
http://everythingsg.com/celebrities.htm
Oh well, we got a good percentage of them. I'm gutted I forgot Buck Dharma. :(
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Woah, that was fast :D
quote="Philly Q"] There are surprisingly few people who use an SG as their "main" guitar.[/quote]
Yeah that's exactly what i was thinking, seems that it's everyones 'second' guitar... i cant help but wonder why that is?
Is it the legacy of the les paul overshadowing the sg? do too many people just think 'AC/DC' when they see an SG? i know i used to...
Now i've gotta decide if i'm going to save up for the SG Standard or the 61 Reissue, seem's most people go for the reissue...
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Carlos Santana. first a Gibson (Woodstock, I think) and later the Yamaha SG
The guys in COC
Elliot Easton.
Judas Priest
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Now i've gotta decide if i'm going to save up for the SG Standard or the 61 Reissue, seem's most people go for the reissue...
The big difference is the neck shape - the reissue is the '60 "slim taper" shape and the Standard is the fatter "rounded SG" shape. Standard all the way for me, personally.
Apart from that, the reissue's a better guitar - and more expensive obviously.
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The brilliant Zal Cleminson !
( In the heyday of 'The Sensational Alex Harvey Band' ).
8)
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I hate to be a killjoy but this might help a wee bit.
http://everythingsg.com/celebrities.htm
Oh well, we got a good percentage of them. I'm gutted I forgot Buck Dharma. :(
Graham Coxon - I'm sure he uses one quite a lot on his solo stuff (although not as much as his teles :lol: )
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OOps !
Nearly forgot Graham Headley Williams , the talented S.G meister of 70s Welsh Rock balladeers 'Racing Cars'.
Not only a really nice guy, but a man who even Eric Clapton has noted his respect for. he played an S.G. then, and ( now they are re-formed over 30 years later ) still plays it now. The best 'intimate' gig I ever attended was during their 'Bring On The Night' tour back in the late 70s.
On their website, check out a quick burst of " The Time Has Come " in the video section.
:D
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OOps !
Nearly forgot Graham Headley Williams , the talented S.G meister of 70s Welsh Rock balladeers 'Racing Cars'.
Oh, now you're talking '70s Welsh rock you've reminded me of Deke Leonard and Micky Thomas of Man.
And Tony Bourge of Budgie.
And (not a Welshman, but...) Tony McPhee of the Groundhogs.
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Everyone in every late 80/early 90s emo band!
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has anyone mentioned Santana? - he used one at Woodstock and it was his main axe right through till he started using the Yamaha SGs afaik.
Someone mentioned the COC guys (Pepper Keenan and, err, the other one)
The guy from Crowbar also uses an SG every time I've seen him with Down.
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Someone mentioned the COC guys (Pepper Keenan and, err, the other one)
Woody Weatherman. :)
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Someone mentioned the COC guys (Pepper Keenan and, err, the other one)
Woody Weatherman. :)
thats the guy - I remember the first COC song I heard (Vote With A Bullet), that album (Blind) still sounds great.
anyone else going to see Down in Manchester in April?
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Is it the legacy of the les paul overshadowing the sg? do too many people just think 'AC/DC' when they see an SG? i know i used to...
I dunno, I think more of Black Sabbath when I see an SG.
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You (Customised '61 reissue in blue)
Wait... me?!
Twinfan, you know something i don't? :o
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The big difference is the neck shape - the reissue is the '60 "slim taper" shape and the Standard is the fatter "rounded SG" shape. Standard all the way for me, personally.
Apart from that, the reissue's a better guitar - and more expensive obviously.
The neck angle is different too Phil. The '61 has a flat angle, like a Tele (or a PRS Mira ;)) whereas the Standard has a steeper angle backwards like a Les Paul standard. It make a big difference ot the feel of the guitar.
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Now i've gotta decide if i'm going to save up for the SG Standard or the 61 Reissue, seem's most people go for the reissue...
The big difference is the neck shape - the reissue is the '60 "slim taper" shape and the Standard is the fatter "rounded SG" shape. Standard all the way for me, personally.
Apart from that, the reissue's a better guitar - and more expensive obviously.
The pickups are also far nicer on the 61 reissue. which matters, because if i were to get either i'd want to keep it stock for a long while ;) i'll be skint for ages.
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You (Customised '61 reissue in blue)
Wait... me?!
Twinfan, you know something i don't? :o
Doh! Sorry! Got you confused with Adammato :oops:
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glenn tipton, and the guy jack black plays in 'the school of rock'
Tipton \m/
Just like mine!
(http://felineguitars.com/spec_sheets/guitar_images/Gibson%20Painkiller%20SG/Gibson-Painkiller-SG-horiz5.jpg)
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The neck angle is different too Phil. The '61 has a flat angle, like a Tele (or a PRS Mira ;)) whereas the Standard has a steeper angle backwards like a Les Paul standard. It make a big difference ot the feel of the guitar.
Well I'll be damned, I never realised that. I only briefly tried a '61, long ago. Is the end of the neck also raised relatively high over the body, like an LP Jr (or the aforementioned Mira)?
Now I'm wishing they'd make a fat-neck '61.
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It's not that high from the body to be honest, probably les than the Mira. I'd have to check.
A fat(ter) neck '61 would be the Custom Shop reissue.....
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A fat(ter) neck '61 would be the Custom Shop reissue.....
Don't even go there....
:wink:
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:lol:
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The big difference is the neck shape - the reissue is the '60 "slim taper" shape and the Standard is the fatter "rounded SG" shape. Standard all the way for me, personally.
Apart from that, the reissue's a better guitar - and more expensive obviously.
The neck angle is different too Phil. The '61 has a flat angle, like a Tele (or a PRS Mira ;)) whereas the Standard has a steeper angle backwards like a Les Paul standard. It make a big difference ot the feel of the guitar.
I'm not sure I agree
I have a 61 reissue in my lap as I type this and it seems to have an angled neck - the fingerboard is level with the top of the body but the neck is angled so the string line makes a line to the top of the bridge
I also recall the mid 1970s ones (from late '71 onwards?) where they had no neck angle but had the neck raised up sothe bottom of the fingerboard was nearly 6mm above the body - the same as they did on the flying Vs of that era.
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I also recall the mid 1970s ones (from late '71 onwards?) where they had no neck angle but had the neck raised up sothe bottom of the fingerboard was nearly 6mm above the body - the same as they did on the flying Vs of that era.
Yep, the "90 degree neck pitch"! My white Edwards V is like that, and I find it a bit awkward. But then again my singlecut LP Jrs are similar (not quite so high, I suppose) and I find them very comfortable... go figure. :?
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Sorry Feline - I meant in comparison the '61 has a flat neck :oops:
If you look at a Standard, and in particular how far out of the body the bridge and the bridge pickup has to sit, you'll see there's a difference.
Edit - it's quite hard to find good pics to show what I mean!:
Here's a Standard:
(http://www.gibson.com/files/_common/usa_static_sg.jpg)
Here's a '61 reissue:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2317/1534290398_25ac628596_b.jpg)
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Mick Box (I'm stuck in the 70s now...)
LOL!!! I saw Uriah Heap years ago at the Mildenhall Rock and Blues festival, supporting Rory Gallagher, and he was spanking an SG then, and sounded pretty damn good!
Gary Moore was playing an SG pretty much exclusively up until he nabbed PGs Les Paul, I believe.
Mark.
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If you look at a Standard, and in particular how far out of the body the bridge and the bridge pickup has to sit, you'll see there's a difference.
Edit - it's quite hard to find good pics to show what I mean!
I've always wondered why the neck angle on my SGs is quite so steep. They've all had the bridges sitting very high on the body.
There's still a fairly substantial angle on the '61 though, as can be seen from the heights of the pickups and their mounting rings in your pic.
I wonder if the neck angle is "officially" any different between the two, or if it's just a case that more care and attention (and therefore cost) is needed to get it just right?
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I don't think they list the neck angle in the model specs, but I'm sure they're different between the models. Funnily enough Epiphone have it flatter on their G400 SG which is more "correct" than a Gibson Standard....
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But we're starting to name everyone who's ever used an SG, as opposed to people who regularly use them. There are surprisingly few people who use an SG as their "main" guitar.
The only one who hasn't been mentioned that I can think of is Graham Oliver of Saxon :twisted: :)
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But we're starting to name everyone who's ever used an SG, as opposed to people who regularly use them. There are surprisingly few people who use an SG as their "main" guitar.
The only one who hasn't been mentioned that I can think of is Graham Oliver of Saxon :twisted: :)
:lol: :lol: I did think of him (the white SG with a painting of Hendrix on it!). But I'd done so many "Oh, and...." posts I was a bit embarrassed to do another one! :oops:
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I've always felt that with a middle name of Angus, I should own an SG :) but since the sad demise (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7227&start=18) of my 70s SG I haven't looked at another one. Not sure why really...
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I've always felt that with a middle name of Angus, I should own an SG :) but since the sad demise (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7227&start=18) of my 70s SG I haven't looked at another one. Not sure why really...
Must admit I'd forgotten that story. Truly distressing!
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I'm trying to find pictures of some strange SG carnage. One of my mates had his SG fall on top of his Les Paul. Amazingly (mind-defyingly so...) the impact cleft the LP in twain, but the SG survived totally unmarked*
*relatively speaking. he's a harsh man on his guitars...
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I'm trying to find pictures of some strange SG carnage. One of my mates had his SG fall on top of his Les Paul. Amazingly (mind-defyingly so...) the impact cleft the LP in twain, but the SG survived totally unmarked.
- The S.G. being protected by Satan of course :lol: :twisted:
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I can't think of a name right now, but there are a lot of Girls bands where an SG is being use....Allison Roberts from the Donnas, that's one.
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Pal Waaktaar plays one (he's in A-ha).
Dweezil Zappa - I think the SG in the photo may even be the one that Frank played.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DweezilZappa.JPG
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Frank Zappa played a brown SG with 2 additional frets added (if I remember correctly)
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shakira:
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Tom Linton from Jimmy Eat World was using an SG for all but a couple of songs when I seen them last night.
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Is it the legacy of the les paul overshadowing the sg? do too many people just think 'AC/DC' when they see an SG? i know i used to...
I dunno, I think more of Black Sabbath when I see an SG.
Same here. I am the biggest Iommi fan that I know tho, so that may have summat to do with it :lol:
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... and of course David st. Hubbins.
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Daron Malakian from SOAD has been using SG's for a few years now but he doesn't have that brutal sound like he used to and I liked that!
http://myplay.com/video-player/system_of_a_down/hypnotize