Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: MrBump on February 19, 2008, 10:22:11 PM
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... not a negative post, as the title might suggest!
I was just flicking through the Players section (wife is at the gym, kids are in bed, Orange is too damn loud...), and I noticed a lack of certain clips.
Loads of Nailbombs, VHIIs and Miracle Men. But some cilps are hard to find.
For example, not many Crawlers or Cold Sweats (which is a shame, 'cos I really like what I've heard, partic the GW Crawlers). And you would be really hard pushed to find many Tele set clips.
Is this because (sweeping generalisation - please don't hate me) the majority of posters have a leaning towards the more "metal" side of music, do you think? Nothing wrong with that, I myself have dabbled in the dark arts at times, when I had youth and hair on my side. But I'd be interested to know what PUPs sell the best.
I reckon that Nailbombs have to be close to the top of the list.
Mark.
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I don't see many Emerald or Abraxas clips - I've got a feeling the Em's could be quite a cool set in my Explorer (GAS strikes again).
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I don't see many Emerald or Abraxas clips - I've got a feeling the Em's could be quite a cool set in my Explorer (GAS strikes again).
Here you go. It's a Bluesy type clip and the playing isn't the best but it'll give you an idea of Emerald pickups.
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10741
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There are quite a few BKs that dont get much attention on the boards.
But I dont know what they are!!!!
I'm sure I've seen a product list thats longer than the list tha comes to mind when I think of BKs, anyway. So there MUST be more!
(I'm a one of the metal guys you mention!)
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I posted a clip with an Abraxas neck solo. Song is called Outlander.
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Yeah, I agree. I've never heard PG blues hum. or any of the tele sets except
the piledrivers.
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Yeah, i was looking for some slowhand clips but found none, zero. And i remmeber there being a clip and it was right up my street!
When oh when will tim get around to having clips of all the pups on the main page? surely then the lesser mentioned pups will shine through.
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Certainly the Abraxas is under-represented - the neck model has started getting some attention but the bridge model certainly doesn't.
The Emerald was almost totally ignored until recently, but it's been getting a higher profile, largely thanks to Mr Machinehead.
And single-coils generally aren't heard or discussed as much as humbuckers.
To return to the original question, I think there are an awful lot of metal players on the forum. I love that kind of music myself (or at least the stuff we called metal 25-30 years ago), but I prefer "classic rock" guitar sounds. I'd love to do some clips, but my playing isn't up to it (and my recording skills are non-existent).
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there are many more clips of the cold sweat neck than there are of the bridge pickup. hopefully when I put my set into my guitar I'll be able to redress the balance a bit
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Someone (other than myself who lacks the talent) who can express the good sides of pickups, like the Abraxas or something should submit it to Tim and maybe he'll sticky it.
Will save him time trying to record it and all, I'm sure he's uber busy.
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Perhaps when the new website is revealed there will be more "pro" clips of the whole range? Or maybe Tim could run a competition - the best and most diverse clips make it to the main page!!!
Yee-Haw! It's s Guitar-Off!!!
Mark.
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Perhaps when the new website is revealed there will be more "pro" clips of the whole range? Or maybe Tim could run a competition - the best and most diverse clips make it to the main page!!!
Yee-Haw! It's s Guitar-Off!!!
Mark.
lol.. obviously I'll not be a contender xD
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We could also do a 'Forumers BKP clips thread' in which you can find at least a clean and dirty clip on all BKP pickups. Should be someone of the team who puts it together though, at least i think it should be good quality clips so some selection process is in order i guess.
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Now I know that this topic has been kicking about for a long time but I think Tim would certainly increase sales of BKP's with a sample page of all the pickups.
I've no dougbt that he is mega busy but the benefits of getting someone into do it would seem to be worth it, from a purely financial point of view and also from a professional stance.
I'm not pro Seymour Duncan (obviously :D ) but the sample page on their site is spot on for deciding what pickup you want to buy.
I'll stress that I'm not knocking Tim - far from it. I'm sure he wants something like this as well. All I'm saying is ... bite the bullet and get someone in to do it?
/em puts on flame retardent underpants :P
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As far as I'm aware, an updated website with more "formalised" clips and detailed pickup specs is already in the works, and has been for some time.
It may seem a bit like the new Guns n' Roses album, but even that is supposed to be coming soon.
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I'd agree about the metal thing, my first impression was that a lot of people here were metal players using Bare Knuckle's to power Laney amps. That's not changed much, it's by no means a bad thing - simply an observation. :)
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I reckon that Nailbombs have to be close to the top of the list.
Yeah, I imagine that the best sellers are:
Nailbomb, Miracle Man, Warpig, Rebel Yell, Mule (not necessarily in that order)
Of the singles, I'd guess that the Sultans sell least - they hardly ever get talked about here & the only clips in the Players forum are ~2 years old.
There was an absolutely superb Slowhand clip but I can't find it anymore (I think I still have it downloaded to my home machine). Slowhands are high on my list if I get another HSS guitar or build another Warmoth.
The Tele pickups don't seem to get discussed a lot either...
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I can imagine the warpig to be very high. I guess people just see it and think, its got the highest DC and think its the most powerful lol.
Wouldn't have guessed the RY, what makes you think that? but you are probably right lol.
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Wouldn't have guessed the RY, what makes you think that? but you are probably right lol.
I remember it getting talked about a lot when it was released, IIRC there are a fair few posters here that have one, some good magazine reviews of it & being made for a total rocker like Steve Stevens can't hurt either :)
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I'd be interested to know how popular the Holy Diver is - it's by far my favourite, but for a time it seemed like hardly anyone had them (certainly on this forum).
It deserves to be very popular, but I admit that I'm biased :twisted: :)
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I'd agree about the metal thing, my first impression was that a lot of people here were metal players using Bare Knuckle's to power Laney amps. That's not changed much, it's by no means a bad thing - simply an observation. :)
Guilty as charged... If by 'metal' you mean Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, etc...
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Since the pickups are built on order (correct me if I'm wrong) then surely it doesn't really matter is nobody ever buys a certain pickup - Not like they're going to have a load of sultans lying around right?
But I agree that all pickups should be given representations - Presumeably that's what the new site will do =)
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I have NEVER heard anyone who owns Slowhands or Sultans.
edit - Antag has sultans.
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To the person who mentioned seymour duncans site having clips of every pickup....
Have you never noticed that all the clips sound nearly identical?
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To the person who mentioned seymour duncans site having clips of every pickup....
Have you never noticed that all the clips sound nearly identical?
They are highly suspect, to say the least ...
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To the person who mentioned seymour duncans site having clips of every pickup....
Have you never noticed that all the clips sound nearly identical?
They are highly suspect, to say the least ...
I was listening to some of their Tele clips the other day and could hear the difference - not dramatic, but then there shouldn't be much difference between two vintage-output Tele pickups.
(Not that I'm appointing myself Defender of Seymour or anything... :wink: )
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To the person who mentioned seymour duncans site having clips of every pickup....
Have you never noticed that all the clips sound nearly identical?
Totally. The differences between them can also be had by changing cable, string brand, or slight tweaking of EQ.
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But isn't that also going to be the case when we get the BKP clips? There's not going to be a vast difference between the PG Blues and the Stormy Monday, or the Mothers Milks and the Sultans. It's not going to be night and day.
Yeah, there'll be a big difference between the Mule and the Warpig - but presumably there also is between the Duncan Jazz and the Invader.
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To the person who mentioned seymour duncans site having clips of every pickup....
Have you never noticed that all the clips sound nearly identical?
At first listen, yeah they're very similar but they are all very different once you listen to them repeatedly - as I did before I decided to buy BKP's.
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But isn't that also going to be the case when we get the BKP clips? There's not going to be a vast difference between the PG Blues and the Stormy Monday, or the Mothers Milks and the Sultans. It's not going to be night and day.
I think you're going to be surprised at a) how perceptive your ear really is when directly comparing the clips and b) how even a small difference in frequency response changes the way you perceive a pickup's tonal character.
(Yes, I've heard some of the clips)
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I think some of it is due to what Tim recommends. I thought I wanted Emeralds (not popular), he suggested Crawlers(relatively popular). I thought I wanted Abraxas (not popular), he suggested Mule (very popular). I have a feeling that the less popular models are mostly aimed towards a certain sound, more so than the more popular models, so Tim only reccomends those pickups to the costumers seeking that particular sound. This is generalisation of course, but the most popular pickups are generally agreed to be very versatile (Mule, Nailbomb, CS neck, etc). As opposed to the Riff Raff being strictly aimed at classic rock bite-y tone, Emeralds being typically 70s/southern rock, Painkiller a tight as spandex metal monster, Abraxas being too hot for vintage players and not hot enough for metal players. Still a generalisation (as I'm sure every BKP will be versatile in the right hands), I admit, but I think it has a say in which pickups are recommended and therefore in which are sold most.
(can't comment on single coils)