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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Slarty on February 20, 2008, 12:31:49 PM

Title: Noob alert! New pickups for Les Paul Supreme
Post by: Slarty on February 20, 2008, 12:31:49 PM
Hi,

Since I can't think of anything imaginative for my first post...

I have a Les Paul Supreme with 490 and 498 pickups in.  Frankly they don't cut it.  Tim has suggested a Nailbomb calibrated set which would allow me to get a variety of tones from good clean to classic rock to full on hair to metal.    

Just wondering what other forumites think.  I am concerned about putting high output pickups in a chambered body and also don't know it the guitar currently has 300 or 500K volume pots, which could be behind the pickups' poor show.

Cheers!
Title: Noob alert! New pickups for Les Paul Supreme
Post by: ailean on February 20, 2008, 01:12:31 PM
I can't offer much more than that I have a Nailbomb set in my MIJ Tokai LP and I love it. :)
Title: Noob alert! New pickups for Les Paul Supreme
Post by: CUBE on February 20, 2008, 01:57:37 PM
the nail bomb is a wicked pickup and the matched set is wicked
Title: Re: Noob alert! New pickups for Les Paul Supreme
Post by: Antag on February 20, 2008, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: Slarty
I am concerned about putting high output pickups in a chambered body

Don't be.  "Chambered" isn't the same as "Hollow" so you won't have any problems with feedback.

Nailbomb works very nicely in Les Pauls.
Quote from: Slarty
...don't know if the guitar currently has 300 or 500K volume pots

Probably 300k.  A change to 500k will open up the top-end a bit more, but it won't be ab earth-shattering difference.

FWIW, I have a very dim view of Gibson pickups, I've found the stock pickups in every Gibson I've owned to be muddy & microphonic.  IMO a Nailbomb set would be a huge improvement.

I'd also give serious thought to a Cold Sweat neck with the Nailbomb bridge.

JMO, YMMW...
Title: Noob alert! New pickups for Les Paul Supreme
Post by: Machek on February 20, 2008, 02:24:39 PM
Antag, we all know about your views on Holydivers in alder body/maple necked guitars, but what about HDs in Les Paul-like guitars?

If i remember correctly there was a clip of your HDs in your LP std, but you never seemed to comment or recommend this combo passed this point... did it decieve you?

Cheers
Title: Noob alert! New pickups for Les Paul Supreme
Post by: Antag on February 20, 2008, 03:26:55 PM
Quote from: Machek
If i remember correctly there was a clip of your HDs in your LP std, but you never seemed to comment or recommend this combo passed this point... did it decieve you?
No, on the contrary - my Std Vintage Burst still has Holy Divers & is my favourite of my 3 Les Pauls.  It sounds absolutely massive :twisted:

However, a note of caution: I first put that Holy Diver set in my Std Goldtop & didn't really like it.

In my experience of trying Les Pauls (I've played more than I can count over the last few years while searching for "the one" :)), there are huge variances in weight, sound & build quality.

IMO weight plays a big part.  The really dense pieces of wood in the heavier LPs seem to give them a big booming bass & bucket loads of sustain - they just want to be played hard & loud :twisted:  However the lighter ones seem more balanced, with sweeter mids & a more dynamic/responsive feel to them.  My Vintage Burst is only ~8lbs but my Goldtop is nearly 11lbs.

My impression is that the light ones are less numerous than the heavy ones (just gut feel - no, I haven't been taking my kitchen scales into music shops! :))

So I've kinda avoided recommending HD for LPs, simply because of the experience I had with the same pickup set in two different guitars.

The clip you refer to was the last clip (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=9744) I posted, & the first since I got my Engl Savage (NB: I made a second (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=9744&start=15) recording on pg2 as the bass was off the scale first time round :lol:)

Hope this helps...
Title: Noob alert! New pickups for Les Paul Supreme
Post by: Antag on February 21, 2008, 09:22:25 AM
Just remembered that there's an earlier clip of my Vintage Burst LP w/HDs combo: The second clip in this (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=6460) thread :)
Title: Noob alert! New pickups for Les Paul Supreme
Post by: Slarty on February 21, 2008, 10:54:49 AM
Cheers for the input guys, I have a friend who has just put a calibrated Cold Sweat into his Heritage, which is like a Les Paul but not :)

I'll check out some more clips.  Cheers.