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Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: Scotty477 on February 21, 2008, 01:29:14 PM
I'm open to suggestions for BKP's for my Patrick Eggle Berlin Plus. It has a mahogany body, maple cap, mahogany neck  and an ebony fretboard with 24 frets. Also it's a hardtail and it's coil tapped.

The guitar has a small (but perfectly formed) body - similar to a PRS Custom 24 but slightly smaller.

This is it here:

(http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/files/berlinclose_1__172.jpg)


It currently has a SD Custom Custom bridge and a SD Pearly Gates neck, which are ok but I'm pretty sure with BKP's i could get do better.

What I'm looking for is  pickups that can deliver a powerful but smooth lead tone in all positions for blues/rock and classic rock. I'm particularly after a jazzy/bluesy tone in the neck that can overdrive without overpowering - if that makes sense.

My current thunking is that a Rebel Yell in the bridge and a Stormy Monday in the neck could do the trick but as I said, I'm open to suggestions.

Cheers
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: Neemo on February 21, 2008, 01:53:07 PM
abraxas bridge
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: Scotty477 on February 21, 2008, 02:33:15 PM
Abraxas clips are in short supply at the moment.

I'd love to hear more of it but there's just not enough for me to go on - to justify getting one.
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: PhilKing on February 21, 2008, 04:13:21 PM
You could go with the Rebel yell bridge and Abraxas neck, or a Cold Sweat neck.  Both give a good driving clean tone and would work with the RY.  The SM is a great sounding neck pickup too, if you are wanting the older bluesy tones (the cleaner end rather than the rockier ones).
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: kellar on February 21, 2008, 04:18:28 PM
I have a Stormy Monday AIV/Riff Raff set in my Epiphone Les Paul and it's outstanding. You can nail any blues or classic rock tone you want with that.
The Riff Raff is a bit hotter than the Mule and still sounds great clean.
The Stormy Monday may be the best jazz/blues neck pickup I have ever heard. Incredibly clean and smooth.
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: Scotty477 on February 21, 2008, 04:21:31 PM
I'm looking for subtlety in the neck pup, which I think I'll get from the SM neck.

Basically what I'm after is a contrast from the Emeralds I have in my LP. Both the neck and bridge Emeralds have a quick attack and bite, which is great for a lot of things but not all.

So here I am looking for something ... smoother, kind of more liquidy - if that's even a word  :oops:

I haven't heard much of the Cold Sweats, so I'll go have a search now.
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: kellar on February 21, 2008, 04:39:10 PM
Well, if smooth is what you want in the neck than that is what you will get from a Stormy Monday.
Have you thought about an AIV Mule in the bridge? I would say that or a Riff Raff would match the SM great.
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: Scotty477 on February 21, 2008, 05:27:40 PM
Quote from: kellar
Well, if smooth is what you want in the neck than that is what you will get from a Stormy Monday.
Have you thought about an AIV Mule in the bridge? I would say that or a Riff Raff would match the SM great.


I had thought of Mules, but not Riff Raffs. I'm in the players section at the moment having a root around. I'll take a listen to Mules and Riff Raffs.

Cheers
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: Philly Q on February 21, 2008, 05:33:55 PM
I wouldn't think a Riff Raff would give you the kind of smooth tone you're after - I'm sure it's brighter than the Custom Custom you have now.  Can't comment on the Mule though.
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: gwEm on February 21, 2008, 05:47:13 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
I wouldn't think a Riff Raff would give you the kind of smooth tone you're after


+1
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: dave_mc on February 21, 2008, 06:19:58 PM
i think you should wait a while first to get to know the tone of the instrument. You'll either decide you don't need new pickups, or if you do, you'll know exactly what you want.

:)
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: kellar on February 21, 2008, 06:49:57 PM
When you said smooth I was assuming you meant in the neck.
The Riff Raff is not what I would call smooth. It has a good bite and is quite tight.
I think a Stormy Monday AIV calibrated set might also be quite interesting. I haven't heard much about the SM in the bridge but there is a great youtube clip of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuavPedirvA
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: Scotty477 on February 21, 2008, 06:50:27 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
i think you should wait a while first to get to know the tone of the instrument. You'll either decide you don't need new pickups, or if you do, you'll know exactly what you want.

:)


I would agree up to a point there Dave but I'm comparing the SD's to my Emeralds, which have a lot more clarity.

I had considered swapping the SD's into my LP and putting the Emeralds into the Berlin, to see what it would sound like.
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: Twinfan on February 21, 2008, 07:08:56 PM
If you're after smooth in the bridge, I wouldn't go for a Mule or a Riff Raff.  They're both quite bright pickups.

I'd be tempted to go for a calibrated set of AII Stormy Mondays in that guitar.  Classic smooth rock and blues all the way  :)
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: Philly Q on February 21, 2008, 07:19:49 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
I'd be tempted to go for a calibrated set of AII Stormy Mondays in that guitar.  Classic smooth rock and blues all the way  :)

Or PG Blues!  But I'd rather go traditional in the LP and have something more modern in the Berlin - just seems more appropriate.

Sorry, not helping much.  :(
Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin - BKP suggestions?
Post by: dave_mc on February 21, 2008, 07:38:57 PM
Quote from: Machinehead

I would agree up to a point there Dave but I'm comparing the SD's to my Emeralds, which have a lot more clarity.

I had considered swapping the SD's into my LP and putting the Emeralds into the Berlin, to see what it would sound like.


yeah, i know. i just mean if you wait, you might realise exactly what you want the new pickups in the eggle to do. maybe it's just the fact that i'm extremely indecisive, though.  :lol:

swapping the emeralds presumably would be a good idea, just to see. as long as you don't mind possibly having to swap them back.