Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Adam.M on February 22, 2008, 03:06:20 AM
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On my search for a guitar to quench my EVH like thirst i've been searching for a cheap but decent guitar equipped with a floating trem.
Now i haven't seen these in the shops, these are the black ones not the flame burst whatever ones... and apparently, have a real floyd rose on them.
The website says 'Floyd Rose® Original double locking tremolo' and a few HC reviews confirm it.
I'm really excited as it's perfect for me, just a volume pot! gorgeous too.
Anyone have any idea where to get these in the UK?
I want one so bad, go budget axe's!
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Not the ones I have seen, theyre licensed versions
Theyre nice enough little guitars, though I would suggest raising a few more quid and looking for a far East built Peavey Wolfgang. It's got a better bridge and a lovely neck
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http://www.olpguitars.com/news_mm1f.html
Seems to be the case and if it is then it sounds like better value
Just swap out the pickups to BKPs and yore done
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yu can get those OLPs for £200...
Floyd Roses are £150!
That's £50 for a guitar! They must be terrible
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Thats a hell of an update to the OLP range
Thats cheap enough to consider the thought that FR have either bought into OLP or they are looking rid of an defective batch (pardon my cynicism)
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I reworked an OLP for my airbrushing mate Nick
Was pretty damn good
Much better after a refret and new pickups but not bad at all, especially for a cheap guitar.
Sometimes you find that big companies like Floyd, EMG or Duncan will do crazy good deals for large companies who buy enough product
It sort of keeps the production lines flowing
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I reworked an OLP for my airbrushing mate Nick
Was pretty damn good
Much better after a refret and new pickups but not bad at all, especially for a cheap guitar.
Sometimes you find that big companies like Floyd, EMG or Duncan will do crazy good deals for large companies who buy enough product
It sort of keeps the production lines flowing
My local guitar shop had one that I liked a lot (hard tail though) and was great for testing amps cos my 6 string of preference (at the time) was a wolfgang. I have to say for the money it was great.
But thats a cracking price for an OFR equipped guitar
I also love their 5 string Tony Levin model bass (but wish they would release an active 4 string)
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I've played an OLP MM, the non-Floyd version and... apart from the bridge... it was good, felt very nice, the necks are good and the pickups are alright but you can tell they're cheapos.
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yeah, i noticed that one too. bc rich are bringing out gunslingers again with ofrs and dimarzios. might be worth a look too. haven't tried them though, they could suck.
+1 on jonathan/feline's thoughts. just because we pay £150 for an OFR doesn't mean OLP are. though what's quite strange is that the "real" musicmans/men seem to (ones i've tried anyway) have Musicman-branded gotohs. Maybe OFRs were cheaper in bulk.
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yu can get those OLPs for £200...
Floyd Roses are £150!
That's £50 for a guitar! They must be terrible
Ah yes, you can get the older version of the MM1 for 200 quid, the light coloured one with the maple top and Licenced Floyd...
This one is the black one with an official one but without the maple top, but that's great for me as i'm after a basswood guitar, with floydy, two hums a switch and a volume and isnt an ibanez, so this is perfect!
I just can't find anyone anywhere having them in stock, at least in the UK :/
Gonna keep on looking...
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A-ha!
Just incase anyone's interested, i've found somewhere selling these for £239.99... though there's only four left.
I'll be praying i get some cash soon, perfect guitar for me!
Apparently even the frets arent a problem anymore, groovy.
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Must say, I recently acquired an OLP Stingray copy, and it's a perfectly servicable wee bass for my purposes. It's not a scratch on a full weight Musicman, obviously, but compared to the various horrible Squiers I tried, it's a wee peach.
Now, i just need to work out how to play the damned thing.
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Sorry to bump this, but someone on another forum said these had Ping Floyd Roses, and I wanted to give you a heads-up. I haven't confirmed this, but if you were interested, I'd advise you to check with OLP.
"Real" Floyd Roses are made by Schaller, I think. Ping are legally allowed to put Floyd Rose on their trems, I think, but are allegedly not as good as the Schaller ones- I haven't tried the Ping ones, so I have no idea. Maybe Jonathan or someone else has tried the Ping ones and can weigh in about how good they are.
Either way, I'd send OLP an email to see.
:)
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That's interesting, because I've heard that Fender are now using Ping tuners, including the locking ones with "F" logos on the thumbwheels. They still look just like the Fender/Schaller ones, though (at least in pictures, I haven't actually seen them close up).
It might be partly because of the problems the Schaller company has had, but I bet it also saves money!
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I've done some reading and the differences are minimal, and some people prefer the Ping version so... either way i'm not fussed. for a guitar of this level i'd have just replaced the Lisenced with a Ping anyway.
Good to know though, i wasnt aware of the two manufacturers.
Edit: Will still be sending an e-mail to OLP to find out, i like the idea of having a Schaller though some people are indeed saying the Ping is better...
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If you do find out, could you post in here please? No reason, just I'm curious.
Thanks!
:lol:
Just to add, the person on another forum who said it had a ping said that the ping was a "P.O.S.". I've heard that some people prefer the ping, but i've also heard that loads think it's nowhere near as good as an OFR.
Obviously not scientific, but i'd be cautious.
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Well i've sent the emails just now, lets wait and see if they reply...
I'm wondering now though, the pre-07 model which is easily obtained in the UK is basswood with a maple top, which is what the 'proper' model has.
This one is just a whole basswood body...
Would i be better off buying the older model, and upgrade the floyd rose if it really needs it? i wouldn't be using it a great deal, mostly for light bending or flutter effects and the occasional dive bomb.
Hmmm...
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Ping trems are what Dean uses on the import Razorbacks, and people on the Dean forum have no complaints. I find internet polls unreliable, because you get loads of 16 year olds with no real experience of either spouting off third hand brand snobbery about OFRs.
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^ i agree, but you also get 16-year olds who haven't tried the real thing (or a quality copy) spouting off about how their lo-trs or edge III is as good as an OFR... :?
Moral of the story: don't believe anything you read on the internet or forums, unless it's from a known reliable source, or it corroborates what you already know to be true...
:lol:
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A genuine PING should carry the Floyd Rose name NOT the "licensed under" disclaimer..
If it does, it is by all accounts a highly engineered piece of kit made out of high quality metal. Just of Asian origin.
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Well the story goes Schaller stoped making them and Floyd Rose went to Ping to make them for a while.
Ping did such a great job that Schaller started making them again, and thus that's why they are the only ones alowed to have the Floyd Rose name without the licensed cr@p.
I think i'd rather be with the underdog on this one...!
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Would i be better off buying the older model, and upgrade the floyd rose if it really needs it? i wouldn't be using it a great deal, mostly for light bending or flutter effects and the occasional dive bomb.
i wouldn't risk a cheap floyd, even for the occasional effect. cheap floyds are incredibly depressing things.
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^ agreed.
That may be true about ping. I have no idea.
However, the patent ran out on the (original style; i.e. non low-profile) floyds a year or two back. so no original-style licensed floyds are technically licensed any more. I know my gotohs don't say licensed on them.
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A quick heads-up to say thats theres a black one on Ebay with a Maple 'board and has been retro-fitted with an OFR. Currently around £140.
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Just got a reply, they are 100% sure that they are Ping trems.
I wish i had some spare cash right now, i'd grab that one off ebay!
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thanks for letting me know. I wasn't after one anyway, but it's nice to know.
Now, I wonder if those new bc rich 80s gunslingers have ping floyd roses?
:lol:
might have to shoot them an email. my guess is that laziness will win out, though. :lol:
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Not hard to send an e-mail, but i'd be pretty sure that they're Ping.
The guy who i received a response from also deals with BC Rich, want me to PM you his email address?
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^ i agree, but you also get 16-year olds who haven't tried the real thing (or a quality copy) spouting off about how their lo-trs or edge III is as good as an OFR... :?
:lol:
Heres one 16 year old who can safely say the OFR is easily the best of all locking trems (although the PRS one is nothing short of amazing, even if its quite different to a FR and its offspring). :D
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^ have you tried a gotoh, schaller, edge, lo-pro edge etc.? i know i'm wary of saying which i like the best, as I haven't tried them all close to enough. EDIT: sorry if that sounded rude, i didn't mean it to be... i'm just used to some other forums where the less people know, the more adamant they are that they're right. i realise that's generally not the case here. :)
Not hard to send an e-mail, but i'd be pretty sure that they're Ping.
The guy who i received a response from also deals with BC Rich, want me to PM you his email address?
haha, i'm sure i can find the bc rich email address if i ever get as far as emailing them. if you give it to me, then i'll feel i have to email them. i don't like pressure, lol. :lol:
Thanks though. :)
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ok, word on the street (ok, all right, i gave in and emailed them) is that the bc riches have schaller floyd roses.
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ok, word on the street (ok, all right, i gave in and emailed them) is that the bc riches have schaller floyd roses.
Never played a Ping OFR onciously, but have played plenty of Schallers - and I know they're good. Sounds like a nice deal, gunslingers are ace.
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Where are the new BC Rich Gunslingers made? I know the Czech-made Calibre series guitars have Schaller hardware.
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ok, word on the street (ok, all right, i gave in and emailed them) is that the bc riches have schaller floyd roses.
Never played a Ping OFR onciously, but have played plenty of Schallers - and I know they're good. Sounds like a nice deal, gunslingers are ace.
you mean schallers, or schaller-made OFRs? not that it really matters, both are good (but feel slightly different). :)
Where are the new BC Rich Gunslingers made? I know the Czech-made Calibre series guitars have Schaller hardware.
i asked that too, and was told Korea.
:)